Some random observations of this week's Republican convention

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need to see that democrats don't care if marginalized people die and that the left can go screw themselves? Giving Powell a spot at the convention should have horrified every damn democrat after he lied to the UN, the world and us about Saddam having WMDs. He and the other neocons in the Bush admin and every congress member that voted for the Iraq war has millions of deaths on their souls and I hope Karma makes them a visit someday.
Meg Whitman was hated by many in her party, but by most dems and yet she gets a speaking spot?

But the biggest debacle is their not letting Tulsi speak or have any part in their shit show. Has anyone that agreed with HerHeinous on Tulsi being a Russian asset apologized for saying that? Not to my knowledge. Has Tulsi asked for one or how well does she fit in with her colleagues after that? Dems have shouted that if Biden's elected that we can look forward to more wars.

Biden is going back on some of the 'concessions' Bernie wrought out of Joe starting with abandoning the public option and instead 'strengthening' the ACA whatever that means. Then Sirota made a bombshell notice on how Biden was going with austerity over fixing the economy.

He discusses this on Rising

F you democrats. I have seen nothing that can convince me that a Biden presidency would be better than Trump's. Not with the many times democrats have joined republicans on voting for things we do not want. How does that show they would change under Biden?

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg specifically any mention of eliminating fracking and going weaker on fossil fuel reduction. They care so little, they’re not even waiting to be elected to go back on what little they offered. Biden would have to be pushed left just to honor what the campaign offered in the first place!

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

I had forgotten that they did that. Was it Biden though or the DNC delegates that made the decision? Guess it doesn't matter.

This is a great read by Scott Ritter.

If Joe Biden was living in a political vacuum, he might be able to throw stones at will when attacking the record of the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. But when one resides in a large glass house 47 years in the making, throwing stones is not the wisest of strategies. For every policy that Biden claims he will improve on, the question must be asked why had he not acted on it in his previous life as a senior senator or as vice president of the United States?

For every dig he made about Trump and racism, Biden needs to escape the shadow of the 1994 Crime Bill he helped write. For every comment uttered ostensibly in support of the US military, Biden needs to deal with his vote in favor of the US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Biden’s speech was long on rhetoric, and short on detail, especially when it came to defining the specific policies he would undertake to save America from the scourge of the Trump presidency. Instead, anyone watching Biden deliver his acceptance speech would soon be struck by a sense of déjà vu, watching a tired old politician deliver the worn-out lies, the wolf disguised as a sheep.

This especially:

the question must be asked why had he not acted on it in his previous life as a senior senator or as vice president of the United States?

This could be asked of every person that runs. Why haven't you done that before? Why should we believe you now if it wasn't important to you before now? But then that might be moot since dems seem to have stopped working to get all dem's votes and going for the GOP stragglers so that they don't have to offer us anything. More ID politics will be coming thought.

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and the other cretins who spoke.

Good discussion!

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

we here all know exactly why Tulsi Gabbard was not invited to speak at the DNC convention. She made the DNC/fat cats rigging of the primary ever so much more difficult by taking out "their number one." Leaving them with no choice but to find a substitute number one and put their 'girl' in the VP slot. Biden or Bloomberg -- they didn't care which one as long as he would step down before January 2025.

(With the DNC convention now over, has anyone seen the full list of speakers and the speaking time for each?)

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Where's the future of the Dem party? What is their policy to get there? Who will take them there? I guess the two things that irritated the most was that Tulsi was not invited to speak, indicating zero tolerance of the peace wing of the democrat party. I think that Harris herself said it best when asked about Tulsi demolishing her in the debates. She stated that Harris herself is a tier one candidate, that Tulsi was a nothing and that Tulsi supported Assad, end of conversation. I'm sure that Harris was responsible for Tulsi not getting an invite. And the second thing was listening to Obama. That guy is one disingenuous showboat hiding an angry authoritarian. He is so full of himself, full of shit and completely devoid of substance. Trump was right, the reason he is President is that Obama was a completely useless President. I blame our pathetic performance in the Pandemic on Obama. We had moved so far down the neoliberal curve that there was nothing of substance when we needed substance, like hospital beds and PPE. By the time he had left office neoliberalism had triumphed and along with that, corporate profits. He had even fooled the Nobel prize committee into thinking that he was a peace candidate, because of his rhetoric. When he stands in front of the microphone you can feel his brain thinking - I am an awesome. I think - what an empty pissant, devoid of values.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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@The Wizard with your assessments. I wholeheartedly agree about Obama. As time goes on, his narcissism and arrogance has become so pronounced that he cannot hide it. And his anger over Trump being his legacy is so out front.

But I do disagree about your assessment that Harris called the shots on Tulsi not being invited to the convention. That decision came from far above Harris...probably from the Clintons. Harris was Hillary's chosen successor. Harris is a blank slate upon which the powers in the party can count upon to implement their policies or say whatever they want her to say.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

@gulfgal98

...probably from the Clintons. Harris was Hillary's chosen successor.

After HRC lost in 2016, Obama was able to exert more power within the party than the Clintons could. However, he's slick enough to keep them close and within the fold. (Unlike what the Clintons did to Gore after 2000.) Plus, he couldn't discount the possibility of a HRC 2020 run.

My take is that Harris was Obama's choice. If she performed well enough during the early phase of the primary process -- polling at a minimum of a strong third but preferably running somewhat stronger -- that would have shut the door on any potential for a late entry by HRC. While on public policy Harris and HRC are sympatico, the same is true for Obama. Obama thinks Harris is 'hot' (like he is) and therefore, is the one to beat Trump.

Chronologically, HRC only jumped into the primary fray (Gabbard as a Putin puppet) after any potential MO for Gabbard had been thwarted and Harris was languishing, In that way Harris and some of the others could view HRC as being supportive.

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@Marie
I have turn off this radio channel with regret. AFter talking for hours to my son, he just said, Mom, you can't believe what kind of bs folks talk about here.

Chill. And please explain things slowly, orderly so that foreign wannabe grandmothers can follow.

No offense. Nothing for Ungood. Be well. Everything ends somehow, some day. That's it, folks.

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@The Wizard I don't think anyone there could mistake it as a speech about peace. Not at all.
( all emphasis mine)
Obama Accepts Nobel Peace Prize With a Pro-War Speech

War is not peace. It never has been. It never will be

"...Actual policy always, in the real world, profoundly trumps even the best rhetoric. And so, for instance, when President Obama’s Nobel speech proclaimed that "America cannot act alone" and called for “standards that govern the use of force,” the ringing declaration clashed with the announcement last month that he will not sign the international Mine Ban Treaty.

As Nobel Peace Laureate Jody Williams pointed out, "Obama’s position on land mines calls into question his expressed views on multilateralism, respect for international humanitarian law and disarmament. How can he, with total credibility, lead the world to nuclear disarmament when his own country won’t give up even land mines?"

At the outset of his speech in Oslo, the president spoke of his "acute sense of the cost of armed conflict." Well, there’s acute and then there’s acute. I think of the people I met and saw in Kabul who are missing limbs, and the countless more whose lives have been shattered by war.

In the name of pragmatism, Obama spoke of "the world as it is" and threw a cloak of justification over the grisly escalation in Afghanistan by insisting that "war is sometimes necessary" — but generalities do nothing to mitigate the horrors of war being endured by others.

President Obama accepted the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize while delivering — to the world as it is — a pro-war speech. The context instantly turned the speech’s insights into flackery for more war.

https://www.alternet.org/2009/12/obama_accepts_nobel_peace_prize_with_a_...

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@aliasalias -- not that he's the first warmongering Nobel Peace Prize winner, but probably the only one that indulged in warmongering in his acceptance speech.

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When people show us who they are, believe them. There is no better picture of who the Dems really are than the show they put on during the Obama betrayal and the trump insanity. The Dem Party means exactly what they do.

I've also said that I would have to think long and hard about whether voting for Biden simply to rid ourselves of trump is a worthy decision. Where I lived in the US made the choice moot. Living in Ecuador doesn't change that one bit. What has changed is that there's no way in hell I'd vote for Biden even if I knew my vote would clinch the election for him.

He's clearly more of a threat than trump, who I also would never vote for. Like Obama, Biden will be able to enact more Republican policies than trump and the Republicans could and he will do exactly that. He's told us so and he has the backing of the party.

A bottom to the shithole the people of the US find themselves wallowing in is going to get much deeper than hoped. Maybe that's how it has to be. Right now, the only salvation (wrong word - mitigating factor maybe?) I can see is if the houses of congress remains split between the two far right parties who have us all by the short and curlies.

Now, I have to go back upstairs and thank my wife, again, for wanting out of the asylum.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

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@vtcc73

He's clearly more of a threat than trump, who I also would never vote for. Like Obama, Biden will be able to enact more Republican policies than trump and the Republicans could and he will do exactly that. He's told us so and he has the backing of the party.

Trump is an overt threat. Biden is far more scary in that people will be lulled back to sleep. Both scare the h*ll out of me, but right now Biden scares me more because there will be no check upon him.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

@vtcc73

He's clearly more of a threat than trump, who I also would never vote for. Like Obama, Biden will be able to enact more Republican policies than trump and the Republicans could and he will do exactly that. He's told us so and he has the backing of the party.

Not only that but liberals are likely to go to sleep under Biden.
I've been thinking this for a while myself.

On a different note, I see that Ecuador is looking to outlaw opposition parties.

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@gjohnsit @gjohnsit @gjohnsit Mainstream media ignores Moreno’s campaign to ban leftists from February election Reading the comments from a vocal contingent of right wing expats is disappointing but predictable.

It's isn't Ecuador trying to ban parties it's the president and his neoliberal cronies. I have little doubt there is at least some truth to the charges that lead to recent past president Correa's bribery conviction but there's no way to know. Politics is as dirty as it is anywhere when great wealth and power are at stake. Mostly, I think it is projection on the part of Moreno who is dirty through and through but weak. (He was a bad surprise to those who voted for him thinking he'd be Correa II. I guess he's the Biden of Ecuador.) Looking at the hard right turn he took immediately following his election I can't help thinking he was part of how Correa was linked to the bribery/kidnapping charges. Correa helped the wrong people during his presidency. The number of poor was dramatically reduced, standards of living increased, and environmental protections that cut into the profits of the rich and powerful made Correa a lot of enemies. Correa tossed out the US, the international banksters, and generally helped the lower levels of society. That couldn't go unpunished and Moreno was apparently for sale. He has served his purpose and is widely unpopular through most parts of the country. I expect Moreno will show up in a well paid position for his service to one or more of those huge transnational corporations he helped.

Correa is still very popular with the people. It looks like he was set up so he would never again have any power in Ecuador. His party and those parties who would ally with it would easily win a national plurality so they can't be allowed to be involved in the election. The moves to ban Correaistas and the three somewhat similar parties is an obvious ploy to prevent them regaining power for the wrong part of society, the poor and average people. The basis for the bans is so transparently unfounded, party application petition signature irregularities, that the courts, who seem to still have some independence and integrity, tossed out the election authority's decision. There's still a chance they'll be banned anyway. I'm unsure how it will play out.

All I'm more or less certain of is that the average Ecuadorian is as screwed as those in the US if these right wing fucks retain power on a national level. Ecuadorians have a strong revolutionary heritage. Moreno learned a hard lesson last October to not mess with those who can and will shut down the country. He got a badly bloodied nose from the strikes. He's also taking severe heat for the Covid response, economic problems, and World Bank loans.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

@gjohnsit Second visit was very different.
Does it take visceral change for the worse to think about preventing it beforehand?
US voters are disappointing.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp @on the cusp @on the cusp has been obvious. Of course, Cuenca is very progressive with a government interested in helping people. The Andean areas are more rural and agrarian whose poor are better able to live decently off of the land. It's the cities in the coastal areas whose poor have a much harder time and are directly exploited. This government isn't the Ecuador I know. Moreno pulled an Obama. He was the hand picked heir to Correa and his partner in a successful government who went full neoliberal as soon as he was president. He is very unpopular having done for the elites of Ecuador the same things Obama did for our oligarchs. I just don't know if there are enough people who understand how important it is to elect a government more like Correa's or not. We'll know in February.

[Edit to add: Presidential race gets crowded. From this morning.]

The way I see the situation, Ecuador has two options. They can remain primarily an agrarian economy in which it is going to be hard to afford to continue to afford modernization, improving the standard of living for more people, and attract foreign investment. Or do as the right wingers want which will only really benefit the elite. People, especially the somewhat stagnant middle class, will get better paying jobs, mostly in the coastal areas and big cities, at the expense of opening the country to transnationals who will wreck fragile ecosystems stealing significant natural resources. The people are saying no to the neoliberals for the most part and seem to hold a majority but a worsening economy will make it harder to hold the line. Moreno has done the early leg work with IMF and World Bank loans and getting cozy with the trump administration. In this respect it looks like the early '90s all over again. Half of the population wasn't alive in 1990 so they haven't a clue. Just like all the promises to Americans from trade deals and unrestricted resource extraction and tax cuts it may be too hard to resist until they find out it's all a giant lie designed to make the enormously rich richer who run offshore with their profits.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

@vtcc73 that guide all other guides literally bowed before.
He spoke about universal healthcare and tremendous free university education, as examples, then privately railed to me about how his wife was socialist, how he had tried to get her to realize the "way of the world" was capitalism, etc...
Privately,I fired him off questions about prison sentences, the death penalty, old age pensions, and the like.
He actually WANTED a return to the death penalty, and I flipped out about that.
He thought it would tamp down crime. I had to tell him my story about my capital murderer defendant guy, Willie.
(I got a plea to mere burglary. Willie had no idea the leader of the pack was, in fact, packing. When Willie got released, his first stop was to be to my office. He died of a stroke on the bus. I told Carlos I wanted to get my one last hug from Willie, and all death penalty promoters can kiss my ass. For whatever reason, Carlos hugged me good bye on that tour, told me he loved me and would always remember our talks. I had already given him his tip.)
City folks will prosper, rural folks will see their lands raped, and ex-pats...there is the unknown, mister. Your situation is why I haven't retired and done the ex-pat thing. I can feed myself here, and so far, my money is good in the purchase of necessities.
I not only think about you often, I worry about you often. Cannot say how Ecuador flipped from first to second trip. Very shocking, very horrifying.
Anyway, enjoy the good that you obviously have there, that would not be available to you here, and hope for the best.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981