The Rule of Law vs The Rule of Man: a case study

Most of us know how the story of Covid in the US and how the government responded. I've offered a contrast in my comments and an essay or two from my experiences in Ecuador, AKA shithole country. Well, some big changes are coming here. In particular the restrictions are ending on Sept. 12th. That date marks six months since the #quedateentucasa, stay in your home, program suddenly rolled out. It was the result of a decree by the president of a state of emergency. Six months is important because the constitutional court warned that six months was probably be as long as they would permit to exist such strong measures that limited personal liberty. The following series of recent articles briefly describe current events and the reactions. They provide a pretty good idea of the issues and the stances of different parties. That, sadly, includes the expat community in the comments. Reading them will provide a picture not unlike what is being said in the US. Take a moment to bone up on the situation. I'll catch you later.

The announcement and initial reactions: Government defends decision to end health emergency

The Health Minister's position: Health ministry explains lack of testing, herd immunity, effect of elevation on the virus

The mayor of Cuenca's views: How will Cuenca combat Covid-19 after health emergency restrictions are lifted? One doctor claims city has one of the lowest fatality rates

I appreciate the claim that the court's decision is a legal one that does not permit a consideration of the situation. I have no basis for judging the validity of the claim so I accept that it may bell be so. There is certainly consistency from the court. It's entirely possible there's more to the story. None of that matters since this is what's happening.

In typical Ecuadorian fashion those whose job is dealing with the medical situation and the political entities who have responsibility for the safety of their citizens express their dislike of the decision. Then they outline what they'll do with the situation they have and not what they want or think is the right thing to have done. This is Ecuador and this is the essence of what I see every single day. Find a way to get by and get on with it.

There is at least the appearance of following the law and a dedication to protecting the people the best that is possible. Compare and contrast with the US. Yeah.....

I found this article to have several flaws and was surprised to hear the Health Minister mention it though not exactly in glowing words. I see it as more of a wouldn't that be nice moment. Drop in Brazil hospitalizations suggests herd immunity of 20% may provide Covid protection

Then there's this article. Nothing good will come of it: Ecuador, IMF reach $6.5 billion loan agreement

I have to run an errand and help in the yard although I haven't edited this properly. Please accept my apologies. I'll be back later.

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Granma's picture

and judges who uphold it. Wonderful!!!!

Too bad they can't throw out some of those nutty ex pats. I supose you need worms even in paradise.

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vtcc73's picture

@Granma regarding some of our expats but I disagree with tossing them. The rule of law is the greatest idea tried by the US. These people came here and earned the right to stay regardless of anything they do that is against the laws here. The locals know who they are by their actions and nasty attitudes and avoid those who don’t try to fit in. That’s a huge loss these people will never understand. Sure they’ll bitch about it like everything else but it only further isolated them. Isolation here is very bad. So much depends on having help when needed especially as we age. They make their own sad future by not adapting to the culture. We either have our principles all of the time or they are worthless. Denying a lawful existence to someone I disagree with and don’t like is what they would want to do. It isn’t right.

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@vtcc73

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@Granma I have to really pay attention to keep my feelings from getting away from me. I can't believe how hard it is to deal with the multitude of silly people and endless crap to process. It's only when I pause and think before acting that I have the slightest chance of not wanting to strangle the crap out of some of them. I have to always remember that when I allow myself to react that I have given them what they want and become just like them.

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Lost my comment. It was great. Sigh I’ll try to redo it. J/K

This country opened the economy before the numbers said it was safe. It’s not doing as many tests so they can fudge the numbers on how many are infected. Big business pushed Trump into sending workers back to unsafe factories and now many of them are not telling people that their coworkers are positive or in some cases not telling them they are. I’ve read that some companies are telling sick people to keep working. The Great Culling is continuing.

This is happening globally. It’s part of the global class war. I’d like to know how many countries culled their elders like we have done here.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg but only those in power doing what they always do: think about themselves first. They act to protect and promote their interests without a thought about anybody or anything else. They simply have the power and resources to prevail. That's not to say the system wasn't more or less designed to promote such a result.

That process is evident here too but is not as universal. Opening up here before the infections have sufficiently dropped will have a similar effect to what's happening all over the world. At least at the top levels of government and business in Ecuador they will find ways to ensure they personally come out just fine. The strong push to refinance the national debt with IMF and World Bank loans before next year's election looks like an effort to not miss an opportunity. That's one I have a smidge of doubt that the constitutional court's decision is as cut and dried as suggested. It's too convenient.

The balancing force is good people like in the medical and public health sector as well as local governments who continue to try to protect the public within the bounds set for them. The difference I saw in the US was practically everyone from the highest levels of society to the lowest grabbing everything they can for themselves. It's truly a dog eat dog environment.

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