both
1.have shades of red in them
2.have critters in them
3.have gold in them
4. are 2 things I wouldn't get embroidered on my jacket
Now give me my cookie!!!
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Yes, they are both Polish, or more precisely from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
But there's a greater connection than that. Keep working on it.
Yes, a voivode was a region run at one time (12th C) by a local boss or warlord, later (14th-15th C) a duke.
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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
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To be precise, what is the national/historical/family relationship between the two?
Does that help?
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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
people of Hrubieszów. That was a very interesting read. It's a complicated history. I might not have found an answer to your question, but have found names under the notable people's list I believe to recognize.
Will you tell us the answer? That is actually fun. You could repeat this kind of quiz. I assume your ancestors come from the region? I have missed so many things having been for so long in the US. I think I just should take a back-pack, my savings and hitch-hike through Eastern Europe. It's such a shame I have lost connection to all of it.
The second one is the coat of arms of the Voivodeship of Dorpat (present-day Tartu, Estonia.) Livonia (southern Estonia) was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1598 until the Swedish conquest in 1620. The Voivodeship was not a pleasant time for the serfdom; Estonians even now remember the Swedish period (kuldne Rootsi aeg) as a time of peace, stability, and (relative) freedom.
The last voivode (duke) of Dorpat was Andrzej Leszczynski, who after his father's death inherited lands of various other voivodeships, including the voivodeship of Hrubieszow, which is the other banner.
So the connection is that both banners are the standard of Voivod Leszczynski.
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Two images:
1) the extent of the Polish-Lithuanian Commomwealth ca. 1600
2) the coat-of-arms of the Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów
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both
1.have shades of red in them
2.have critters in them
3.have gold in them
4. are 2 things I wouldn't get embroidered on my jacket
Now give me my cookie!!!
But no cigar. /nt
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
well they're both Polish
what the heck is a voivodeship? Is that like a township?
We have a (sort of) winner.
Yes, they are both Polish, or more precisely from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
But there's a greater connection than that. Keep working on it.
Yes, a voivode was a region run at one time (12th C) by a local boss or warlord, later (14th-15th C) a duke.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
red stuff and gold stuff.
that was easy.
both of them have ears involved as well. i guess that's too easy.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
Oh come on :-(
You guys know better!
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
No we don't know better.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Very well then.
My question was too vague, admittedly.
To be precise, what is the national/historical/family relationship between the two?
Does that help?
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
that's tough, I have read now about many of the notable
people of Hrubieszów. That was a very interesting read. It's a complicated history. I might not have found an answer to your question, but have found names under the notable people's list I believe to recognize.
Will you tell us the answer? That is actually fun. You could repeat this kind of quiz. I assume your ancestors come from the region? I have missed so many things having been for so long in the US. I think I just should take a back-pack, my savings and hitch-hike through Eastern Europe. It's such a shame I have lost connection to all of it.
https://www.euronews.com/live
DING DING DING!!!
Well done.
The second one is the coat of arms of the Voivodeship of Dorpat (present-day Tartu, Estonia.) Livonia (southern Estonia) was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1598 until the Swedish conquest in 1620. The Voivodeship was not a pleasant time for the serfdom; Estonians even now remember the Swedish period (kuldne Rootsi aeg) as a time of peace, stability, and (relative) freedom.
The last voivode (duke) of Dorpat was Andrzej Leszczynski, who after his father's death inherited lands of various other voivodeships, including the voivodeship of Hrubieszow, which is the other banner.
So the connection is that both banners are the standard of Voivod Leszczynski.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Dang!
I was just going to say that! I just couldn't remember if it was 1596 or 1598..
oh my, searching for an answer lead me to quite
some websites. I guess, if you continue with such tough questions, I have to pass.
But it was fun. Thanks.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Two bits of interest:
Two images:
1) the extent of the Polish-Lithuanian Commomwealth ca. 1600
2) the coat-of-arms of the Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.