The Political Religion of Mike Pence (Part I)

Mike Pence describes himself as a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. He believes that he should follow his religious beliefs when determining public policy. Pence can be pragmatic, but his political decisions have been strongly influenced by his religious faith. The private religious beliefs of Mike Pence may have a profound influence on everyone in the US and the rest of the world, whether they share these beliefs or not.

Mike Pence grew up in Columbus, Indiana, along with his three brothers and two sisters. His father ran a chain of gas stations for the Kiel Brothers Oil Company. His mother was a church volunteer who raised her children as devout Roman Catholics.

But the Columbus of five decades ago has stuck with Mr. Pence, shaping him in ways large and small. His deeply conservative views on social issues from abortion to gay rights were crystallized by his faith-centered childhood and his later conversion to evangelical Christianity. But they also hark back to a Columbus of a less complicated era, where The Republic’s list of divorce filings and dismissals was perhaps its best-read feature and the police patrolled for teenagers breaking the 11 p.m. curfew.

It was a time when the town’s minuscule African-American population was cloistered on the poor east side of town and drank at a bar called the Plantation. Abortion and homosexuality were both scandal and mortal sin. Elsewhere in America, there were race riots, war protests, free love and bra burnings. Columbus’s 26,500 citizens mostly clucked their tongues and went about their business.

“I don’t remember how many churches there were, but there was one on every street,” Fred Armstrong, Columbus’s mayor for four terms, from 1996 to 2011, said in an interview. “It was just a family-oriented, religious, conservative community, very patriotic.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/us/politics/indiana-hometown-molded-m...

Recently Mike Pence and his family have been attending an evangelical Protestant church, College Park Church. The beliefs held by members of this church and other churches Mike Pence has attended with may now have a significant influence on the laws and policies of the United States. The personal faith journey of Vice President Pence is now a matter of public concern. Mike Pence was baptized and raised Roman Catholic. He attended St. Columba Catholic school through the eighth grade. Mike Pence was a model student who always came to class with his homework completed and never told dirty jokes in front of the nuns.

Mike Pence has been running for office basically since grade school—the only thing that has changed is his political party. The native Hoosier was born in 1959 to a family of Irish Catholic Democrats (in that order). Growing up in Columbus, he kept a box of Kennedy clippings; by 15, he was youth coordinator for the Bartholomew County Democrats.
http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/

Mike Pence remained a Democrat while he attended Hanover College where he majored in history. Hanover is a private, liberal arts college in rural Indiana that was founded in 1827 in association with the local Presbyterian church. At Hanover Pence served as chapter president of Phi Gamma Delta fraternity. He attended a non-denominational fellowship group. Pence says he became an evangelical, born-again Christian when he went to a 1978 Christian music festival in Kentucky, but he also continued to describe himself as a Catholic. Many years later, on the floor of Congress, Pence described this epiphany. He said he was inspired by a gold cross worn by his ‘big brother’ in the fraternity.

“Remember, Mike, you have got to wear it in your heart before you wear it around your neck,” Mr. Pence said his fraternity brother told him.
Soon after this exchange, at a Christian music festival in Kentucky, Mr. Pence took a very different sort of pledge from the one he had taken to join Phi Gamma Delta. “I gave my life to Jesus Christ,” he recalled years later, “and that’s changed everything.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/mike-pence-religion.html?...

Mike Pence kept his membership in the Catholic church but began his migration toward the evangelical movement. The details of Pence’s belief system at this point are not clear and probably kept shifting as Pence became more involved with evangelical Protestant belief systems. It is likely that Pence’s political aspirations and outgoing personality influenced his public discussions about his belief system, although religion clearly has great personal importance to Mike Pence.

One of the more publicly shared accounts of Pence’s transition from a Catholic youth minister who wanted to be a priest to an evangelical megachurch member came in 1994. That’s when he told the Indianapolis Business Journal about an intense period of religious searching that he underwent in college. “I made a commitment to Christ,” Pence said, speaking of the late 1970s. “I’m a born-again, evangelical Catholic.” . . . .
Pence always points to 1978 (his freshman year of college) as the point of his “conversion” to evangelical Christianity, yet after that he still attended Mass, worked as a youth pastor at a Catholic parish, met his wife at Mass and applied to graduate school with the intention of becoming a priest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/07/15/what-it-...

His close ties to his Catholic family may have contributed to the ambiguity Mike Pence’s religious beliefs. His mother has made no secret of her preference that all her children remain in the Catholic church.

Mr. Pence . . . is the only one of six Pence siblings who is no longer part of the Catholic Church. Though the family remains close, his embrace of evangelical Christianity was long a source of disappointment to his mother, according to the Rev. Clement T. Davis, the priest at the church in Columbus, Ind., where Mr. Pence was baptized.
The family’s Irish Catholic roots run deep. Mr. Pence’s maternal grandfather, with whom he was especially close, came to America in 1923 from Ireland and settled in Chicago . . . . .
All four of the Pence brothers were altar boys at their church, St. Columba, and attended its parochial school. They were at church six days a week, sometimes seven, if they were serving Saturday Mass. Even after they all went off to college, the church would call the Pence house during vacations or over the summer when it was in need of an altar boy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/mike-pence-religion.html?...

In college Pence was not especially focused on academics. Apparently he was more involved in social activities and religious explorations.

He was not the most bookish student—it took him two tries to get into the Indiana University School of Law—but his classmates still chose him to give Hanover’s commencement address. “Mike, by nature, was an outgoing person,” remembers G. M. Curtis III, one of his undergraduate professors, “but he was an extraordinarily good listener, as well.”
Hanover was also where Pence went through two important transformations. The first was political. Pence worked with Curtis on his senior thesis—he wanted to write about Lincoln’s religion—and enrolled in the professor’s infamous Constitutional and Legal History class. Curtis was a strict originalist who loaded his syllabus with the Founders’ own writings, and Pence began to warm to the ideas of limited government.
http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/

By the time Mike Pence left college he was moving toward his ultimate embrace of evangelical Christian beliefs. In 1980 Pence was still a Democrat who voted for Jimmy Carter instead of Ronald Reagan. Later he said that part of his decision was due to President Carter’s faith.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/65375/20160717/mike-pence-born-agai...

During the 1980s his increasing admiration for Ronald Reagan led Pence to become a Republican. He later described Reagan as the model for his transfer of loyalty to the Republican party. Pence explained that Ronald Reagan’s “broad-shouldered leadership inspired my life”.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nominee-728408-tells-pence.html
Mike Pence met his future wife, Karen, while he was attending law school at Indiana University. They met at St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic church where she was playing guitar for a Mass. On an August day in 1984 they were walking by a canal feeding the ducks when Pence dropped to one knee and proposed. Karen had already decided on her answer. She had been carrying a gold cross in her purse she had prepared with the engraved word “Yes”. They were married in 1985.
The announcement in the Columbus Herald described the Pence wedding:

Karen Whitaker and Michael R. Pence exchanged wedding vows June 8 at St. Christopher’s Roman Catholic Church at Speedway. The Rev. Jim Lasher solemnized the 3:30 p.m. ceremony.
A reception followed at Midway Motor Lodge.
A wedding trip to Nassau was planned. The couple reside at Indianapolis
The bride, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Bernard F. Barcio of Indianapolis, was graduated from Butler University with bachelor’s and master’s degrees in elementary education. She is a second-grade teacher at Acton Elementary School at Indianapolis.
The bridegroom, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Edward J. Pence of 3635 Woodside, was graduated from Hanover College with a degree in history and was affiliated with Phi Gamma Delta social fraternity. He attends Indiana University School of Law at Indianapolis and is employed at Dutton and Overman at Indianapolis.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/6890339/the_columbus_herald/

Karen Pence had been divorced from her first husband, John Whitaker, but she must have been able to get an annulment so the Pences could have a Catholic wedding. The fundamentalist churches they later attended disapprove of divorce at least as much as the Catholic church, which requires the expense of annulment before Catholics can remarry in the Church. Mike Pence has a long track record of upholding his idea that marriage is a sanctified joining of one man and one woman. The Pences do not seem to have made any public comment about Karen Pence’s first marriage or her divorce.

In 1997, four years before becoming elected to U.S. Congress, Pence made multiple comments suggesting that laws against adultery should not only still be on the books, but also enforced. Feeling that same-sex marriage would disrupt the sanctity of marriage, Pence once signed a bill that would make it so that a gay couple could be charged with felonies if they sought out a marriage license. Being an “evangelical Catholic,” he’s seemingly not a fan of divorce, either, in spite of being Donald Trump’s running mate.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/305457/karen-pence-secret-marriage-karen...

In 1986 Pence graduated from the law school at Indiana University and started to pursue his interest in gaining political office while working as an attorney. Pence brought his religious beliefs to the office as well as to the campaign trail. At this point he was still referring to himself as an “evangelical Catholic”.

“He was part of a movement of people, I’ll call it, who had grown up Catholic and still loved many things about the Catholic Church, but also really loved the concept of having a very personal relationship with Christ,” said Patricia Bailey, who became close to Mr. Pence when she and her husband, Mark, worked with him at a law firm in Indianapolis in the mid-1980s.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/mike-pence-religion.html?...

During this time both Pence and his wife remained attached to the Catholic church even as they became increasingly involved with the evangelical movement.

“She’s been very much a part of his faith journey,” said Mark Bailey, who often started his day by praying with Mr. Pence in one of their offices at the law firm. “He would refer to his wife as the prayer warrior of the family.” . . . .
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/mike-pence-religion.html?...

Pence ran for Congress in 1988 and 1990. His negative campaigns against Phil Sharp focused campaign contributions Sharp got from PACs. Among other things, Pence aired an ad blaming Muslims for the rising cost of oil and indicating that Phil Sharp was to blame for allowing Arabs to take advantage of the US.

In 1990, Pence took on Sharp a second time. Today, the race is remembered as one of the nastiest in state history. One Pence ad featured a man in a tacky robe with a thick Arab accent thanking Sharp for his support of foreign oil. Some still maintain that the ad starred Pence himself, and its lost footage has become a sort of Ark of the Covenant in Indiana politics. But the obsession with this ad obscures a larger point: Pence didn’t just run an ugly campaign; he ran an inept one. It was plagued by near-scandals and bad messaging, with the low point coming at a press conference during which one of Sharp’s staffers brandished Pence’s campaign-finance reports and said, “If you’re giving money to Mike Pence, you’re paying his mortgage.” And not just his mortgage—in an unusual (and now illegal) move, Pence’s campaign had been covering his car payment, his Visa bill, even his golf fees. The news killed his campaign. Years later, Pence ran into that Sharp staffer in Washington. “Well,” Pence said, “here’s the political assassin.”
http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/

In 1991 Pence published the Confessions of a Negative Campaigner admitting that his negative campaign strategy had been a mistake. He started his “Confessions” with a Bible verse: "It is a trustworthy statement, deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all"-1Timothy1:15.

Yes, it was personally wrong for me to waste my moment and limited campaign dollars talking about how an opponent might or might not have profited from the sale of his family farm. But in defeat, as unaddressed issue piles upon unaddressed issue, it seems more grievous that I left my supporters so few clues as to how I would have governed differently. . . .

First, a campaign ought to demonstrate the basic human decency of the candidate. That means your First Amendment rights end at the tip of your opponent's nose- even in matters of political rhetoric.

Second, a campaign ought to be about the advancement of issues whose success or failure is more significant than that of the candidate. Whether on the Left or the Right, candidates ought to seek to leave a legacy- a foundation of arguments- in favor of policies upon which their successors can build. . . . .

Third, and very much last, campaigns should be about winning.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010305130534/http://www.cybertext.net/penc...

Some of Mike Pence’s remorse might have been due to the fact that he lost by a wide margin.

But even as Pence lamented the moral failings of negative campaigning, Pence conceded there was another reason for why he was done with it: It didn’t work.

I got beat like a barn mule,” Pence said in 1995.

And long-time Pence associates say the results of negative campaigning left Pence with few other options. “People didn’t gravitate to him when he campaigned that way… He didn’t feel good about it,” said Jim Merritt, an Indiana Republican state senator who has known Pence since the late 1970s. “He lost, so he had to change.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/mike-pence-negative-campaigning-22...

After his 1988 defeat by Phil Sharp he decided to go on the air as a talk radio host. This talk radio show went on only once a week. After Phil Sharp defeated Pence again in 1990 Pence went back to talk radio to express his political views. By 1992 Pence decided to give up most of his law practice and focus on his radio career. Although he claimed that he wanted to be a Midwestern Limbaugh, Pence was generally polite on the air. Instead of shouting at callers who did not share his views, Pence often said, “We’ll just have to agree to disagree.”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2016/07/19/for-mike-pence-politi...
In 1992 Pence was hosting his talk radio show, The Mike Pence Show, five days a week for three hours each day. By 1999 his radio show had introduced Mike Pence on about 20 radio stations throughout most of rural Indiana and in Indianapolis. Sometime the focus was on local news like the Indianapolis 500 race. Sometime the focus was on issues that mattered to Pence. He claimed that global warming is a myth that would cost thousands of jobs. He was upset that the Disney movie Mulan would lead to acceptance of women serving in the military. After the death of a young woman by assisted suicide, Pence commented that “The harsh truth is that Kevorkian is a monster and assisted suicide is immoral”.

Mostly, though, it was about politics. Pence insisted on a polite tone—“Rush Limbaugh on decaf,” was another of his slogans—and he regularly invited Evan Bayh, Frank O’Bannon, and even John Gregg, whom he called “my favorite Democrat,” for interviews. But Pence’s convictions continued to deepen. When Richard Lugar ran for president in 1996, Pence used his show to criticize Lugar for not being “conservative enough.”
http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/

Although the tone of the radio show was polite, the Pence was not shy about expressing his conservative religious views. In 1997 Kelly Flinn, the first female B-52 pilot, resigned after she was caught have an affair with the husband of a subordinate. Mike Pence was upset that politicians like Trent Lott were not taking the matter seriously enough to suit him. Pence bemoaned the “normalization” of adultery:

“I mean, is adultery no longer a big deal in Indiana and in America? I’d just love to know your thoughts because I for one believe that the seventh commandment contained in the Ten Commandments is still a big deal,” Pence said. “I maintain that other than promises that we make of fidelity in our faith, the promises that we make to our spouses and to our children, the promises that we make in churches and in synagogues and marriage ceremonies around this, it's the most important promise you'll ever make. And holding people accountable to those promises and holding people accountable to respecting the promises that other people make, I, to me, what could possibly be a bigger deal than that in this country?”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/mike-pence-talk-radio-225855

Mike Pence even chatted with a caller about whether Hillary Clinton was suppressing the discussion of Kelly Flinn’s misconduct to protect the sensibilities of her philandering husband.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/watch-mike-pences-radio-sh...

During the 1990s religion continued to play an important role in Mike Pence’s life. By 1995 the Pence family had joined Grace Evangelical Church in Indianapolis. This conservative Baptist church is based on the Scandinavian free church movement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/07/15/what-it-...
http://religionnews.com/2016/07/18/mike-pence-christian-evangelical-cath...

An exploration of the church website gives an interesting picture of the beliefs held by church members. All the deacons and elders there at this church are men. Women are expected to obey their husbands and follow the rules set by the elders and minister. Church members are expected to believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. Presumably this includes the literal interpretation of the Adam and Eve story in Genesis and rejection of the theory of evolution. Men are to have “dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Members of this church believe “in the total depravity of man” and that “Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light to deceive”. True believers who follow the teachings of this church will be raptured before the Earth enters a period of social and environmental catastrophe known as the Tribulation. After everyone else has suffered enough the second coming of Jesus will occur.
Beliefs taught by this church can be studied on the Grace Evangelical Church website. http://indygrace.org/ (Quotations from the church website are in boldface.)


What Do We Believe? . . . .
1.) THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
We believe the Holy Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired Word of God, without error in the original writings, the complete revelation of His will for the salvation of men and the Divine and final authority for Christian faith and life. (Psalms 19:7-8; Romans 1:2; 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; James 1:21-25; 2 Peter 1:20-21)

In 2002 Mike Pence shared his views on evolution from the floor of the House. In 2009 Chris Matthews repeatedly asked Congressman Mike Pence if he believed in evolution and never got a straight answer.

MATTHEWS: Okay, you want to educate the American people about science and its relevance today. Do you believe in evolution, sir?
PENCE: Do I believe in evolution? I embrace the view that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that’s in them.
MATTHEWS: Right. But do you believe in evolution as the way he did it?
PENCE: The means, Chris, that he used to do that, I can’t say. But I do believe in that fundamental truth.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-evolution_us_5787db1ce4b0...


5.) THE TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF MAN We believe that man was created in the image of God, according to God’s likeness, but fell into sin, inherited a sinful nature, is alienated from God, lost and only through regeneration by the Holy Spirit can salvation and spiritual life be obtained. (Genesis 1:26-27; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:9-23, 5:12-14)

Grace Evangelical teaches a literal interpretation of the Bible including the creation story in Genesis.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

As a Congressman Mike Pence consistently voted against protecting the environment. The dominion of man over all the Earth does not require efforts to prevent pollution or preserve wilderness.
According to Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Adams fall, sinn’d all.


11.) THE BLESSED HOPE / SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
We believe in the personal, premillennial and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and that this “Blessed Hope” has a vital bearing on the personal life and service of the believer. Furthermore, we believe that the Lord Jesus will receive to Himself the dead in Christ and the believers who are alive at His coming, otherwise known as the Rapture of the Church. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ will, in glorified resurrection body, return to establish His Millennial kingdom, which will climax the fulfillment of Israel’s seventieth week called the Tribulation. (1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; Titus 2:11-15; Revelation 6:1-20:6)

In the futurist view of Christian eschatology, the Tribulation is a relatively short period of time where everyone will experience worldwide hardships, disasters, famine, war, pain, and suffering, which will wipe out more than 75% of all life on the earth before the Second Coming takes place. Some Pretribulationists believe that those who choose to follow God, will be raptured before the tribulation, and thus escape it. . . . .
Pretribulationists believe that all Christians (dead and alive) will be taken bodily up to Heaven (called the rapture) before the Tribulation begins.[5] According to this belief, every true Christian that has ever existed throughout the course of the entire Christian era will be instantaneously transformed into a perfect resurrected body, and will thus escape the trials of the Tribulation. Those who become Christians after the rapture will live through (or perish during) the Tribulation. After the Tribulation, Christ will return to establish his Millennial Kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tribulation

For Evangelical Christians widespread extinction of species and massive destruction of the Earth’s environment are essential precursors to the Second Coming of Jesus. Evangelicals generally believe that a Jewish state in Israel is also an essential precursor for the Second Coming. This strongly influences their views on US policy toward Israel since they expect to be raptured during the End Times and rescued from the suffering that will be deservedly inflicted on the rest of us.
When he ran for Congress in 2000 Mike Pence published a detailed platform. This included strong support for the government of Israel. It is interesting that Pence wanted events to unfold in Israel according “to God’s good grace”.

• This commitment begins with foreign aid by the United States to Israel. We must continue and be willing to expand our financial commitment to the economic and military strength of Israel even if foreign aid to other nations contracts. Three billion dollars per year is a bargain for the promotion of the interest of a people so cherished by millions of Americans, leaving aside entirely that Israel remains the only democratic nation in this strategically significant region of the world.

• This commitment also extends to the protection of the physical integrity of the historic boundaries of Israel. I believe that Jerusalem is, and must always remain the eternal undivided capital of Israel. I support the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act which clearly states that sentiment as a tenet of U.S. foreign policy and further posits that the U.S. should move it's embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. As a member of the House of Representatives, I would be a vocal critic of any effort to compromise the physical integrity of Israel or of Jerusalem in particular.
. . . .
I would not support the creation of a separate Palestinian State unless and until the democratically elected leadership of Israel became persuaded that such was truly in the best interest of Israel and her security.

• In the end, The United States must refrain from excersizing too great of an influence in the domestic or international decisions of the nation of Israel. As a parent learns to give a child room to make decisions, even mistakes, the United States must practice self control in allowing the people of Israel to find their own way and prosper according to America's beneficence and God's good grace.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010519165033fw_/http://cybertext.net/pence/...

l

After Mike Pence was elected to Congress in 2000 he followed through on his campaign promise to support the nation of Israel. A 2002 interview with Congressional Quarterly linked this support to his religious beliefs:

“‘My support for Israel stems largely from my personal faith,’ Pence said in an interview March 18. ‘In the Bible, God promises Abraham, “Those who bless you I will bless, and those who curse you I will curse.” So, in some way, I don’t fully understand [U.S. policy]. I believe our own national security is tied to our willingness to stand with the people of Israel.'”
https://craigfehrman.com/2013/01/09/mike-pences-religion/

In order to be saved in the rapture church members must rely on the Salvation provided by the death of Jesus. Evangelicals show their acceptance of their Salvation by living according to the rules explained by their church. Grace Evangelical Church has a very conservative view of the proper role of women. This is spelled out clearly in their website.


Women
At Grace, the Women’s Ministry exists to encourage each woman to know and follow God’s Word, serving God and others, so that each woman’s life will glorify God is her sphere of influence. Incorporating the concepts of Titus 2:3-5, our goals include…
Bringing together women of all ages and stages
Ensuring that women are equipped to live life, serve in a ministry, and remember a world beyond themselves
Growing godly women in order to help grow healthy churches
Leaving a spiritual legacy for the next generation

The King James version of the verse that is to rule the lives of evangelical women tells them to be obedient to their husbands. This is clearly an important part of the belief system taught at this church.

3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:3-5K (KJV)

Women have their own Bible study groups although there are also classes where men and women study together. The topic of a recently posted Bible study class for women gives an interesting insight into the views this church holds about the proper roles for women.


for the week of January 29, 2017
. . . .
WOMEN’S BIBLE STUDY
Join the women at Grace every Tuesday from 9-10:30am as they study “Lies Women Believe” by Nancy Leigh DeMoss.

The women’s bible study group is appears to be learning how to be good Christian wives from the book Lies Women Believe. Here are some reviews of this book:

"A director of women’s ministries and host of a Christian radio show offers a largely thoughtful program of fundamentalist Christian advice. Twenty-two issues are framed as lies and then presented as truths--issues like how to deal with temptation, adversity, loneliness, restlessness, physical and emotional abuse, and less than ideal clerical authority. The advice is grounded in the literal belief that all worthy direction comes from obedience to God and from those males entrusted with interpreting God’s Word. The author’s teachings on truth, spiritual integrity, respect for the natural order, and self-respect are comprehensible enough. But her distrust of personal discernment and judgment will appeal to a limited audience."
T.W. © AudioFile Portland, Maine
https://www.amazon.com/Lies-Women-Believe-Truth-that/dp/0802472966

There is also an Amazon review by Charles Colson of Watergate fame. He found Jesus in prison and is not reticent about sharing his expertise:

Nancy Leigh DeMoss, who is one of the most articulate Bible expositors in the Christian world today, has written a book that I hope will get to the top of the best-seller list. It exposes the lies that imprison so many women and sets them free. I highly recommend it.
-Charles Colson

Not everyone Amazon reviewer agreed with Chuck Colson that women are freed by incessant pregnancy. Some of the female reviewers disagreed with some views promulgated by Miss DeMoss, who was not married and did not have children.

Kristy Watkinson July 13, 2016
Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
Very matter of fact and gives reference to read. Do not think I can agree with her view on contraception, even natural family planning. I understand that she feels like it is selfish to say "God says I am of fertile age so I should be constantly having children, but I don't want to because...". I think it is selfish and unchristian to bring child after child into the world if you can't afford them, if you have health issues, or are in an unstable relationship (none of these reasons seems to be good enough for Nancy DeMoss to think that you should even practices abstinence based birth control). I can accept and support her views on abortions but to force 4, 5, 6, or more children to live in poverty and in a home with an abusive father just because the mother happened to keep getting pregnant (due to not even being able to abstain).... Not appropriate in today's time.
https://www.amazon.com/Lies-Women-Believe-Truth-that/dp/0802472966

Kristy was not the only woman who did not want to live according to the precepts taught by Miss DeMoss and by Grace Evangelical Church. Julie commented in her review that Miss DeMoss supported her views by taking Biblical quotations out of context. Julie “did not like it” and recommended that “nobody! read or buy this book. Julie noted some of the more creative views promoted by this book and expressed her disagreement with them.

1. Women who work outside the home are the reason for all the troubles in the world today - troubled teens, affairs - I do think it takes two for an affair, childhood obesity, etc.

2. women who work are emasculating men and not depending on God to provide. "You think you have to get a job because your husband won't work? If he gets hungry he will probably work. You think you have to take over the finances or he will go into financial ruin? Maybe a bancruptcy is what he needs for God to change his character." - Unbelievable! This is quite dangerous. She also says that women who work make money so that it is easier for them to leave their husbands. Also very untrue. No working woman I know does so that she can one day leave her husband.
. . . .
4. She preaches against divorce at all costs. Even if you must remove yourself and your children from your husband for saftey reasons, you should remain emotionally attached to him. This I cannot take. This goes against all domestic violence research and statistics. This basically tells a woman that she should return to an abusive relationship.

5. Depression should be treated by the church alone. She does say that medications and "professionals" as she calls them do serve a small purpose. But, that depression cannot be treated right outside the church. I do believe that depression should heavily prayed through, but the so called "professionals" do have insights that a layperson - even clergy - does not have. I don't advocate medication for every single problem, but there are some things that call for it.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/109499.Lies_Women_Believe

After studying the teachings of Nancy Leigh DeMoss the women at Grace Evangelical can get together to paint cupcakes.


CUPCAKES & CANVAS
All women at Grace (ages 12-99yrs) are invited to Cupcakes & Canvas in the Café at Grace on Sunday, February 26th from 2:00-4:00pm. We will be creating a painting on canvas with the theme, “God’s Family”, the cost is $25 per person.

Sign up now at the Women’s Ministry bulletin board. Contact Robin Meyers or LuAnn Young for more information.

The website a Grace Evangelical Church encourages members to make charitable contributions to Life Centers. This is an organization that counsels women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term.


For over a decade, Life Centers (formerly known as Crisis Pregnancy Center) has been reaching women facing difficult decisions because of uncertain futures. Their mission is to affirm the value of life by providing a network of care and counsel to those experiencing a pregnancy related crisis.

Mike Pence not only opposes abortion, but he also wants to prevent Planned Parenthood from providing any other health services to women. His efforts to defund Planned Parenthood would make it more difficult for poor women to access medical supervised birth control. He continues to hold this view expressed in an interview in 2011.

“If Planned Parenthood wants to be involved in providing counseling services and HIV testing, they ought not be in the business of providing abortions,” Pence told POLITICO in an interview Tuesday. “As long as they aspire to do that, I’ll be after them.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/pences-war-on-planned-parenthood-0...

Pence is opposed to use of condoms and to sex education other than abstinence education. In 2002 Secretary of State Colin Powell's advised young people that safe sex with condoms provides some protection against HIV infection. Powell's comment was in response to a question about whether he supported the Pope's policy against condom use.

COLIN POWELL, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I certainly respect the views of the holy father and the Catholic Church. In my own judgment, condoms are a way to prevent infection, and therefore, I not only support their use, I encourage their use among people who are sexually active and need to protect themselves.

Mike Pence had a very negative response to this comment by Secretary of State Powell. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer of CNN, Pence claimed that condoms are not useful for protection against STDs:

REP. MIKE PENCE (R), INDIANA: Well, Wolf, I think it was -- given the enormous stature that Colin Powell rightly has, not only in America but in the world community, it was a sad day. I don't think any administration has had a worst day since boxers and briefs on MTV. And the truth is that Colin Powell had an opportunity here to reaffirm this president's commitment to abstinence as the best choice for our young people, and he chose not to do that in the first instance, but -- and so I think it's very sad. The other part is that, frankly, condoms are a very, very poor protection against sexually transmitted diseases, and in that sense, Wolf, this was -- the secretary of state maybe inadvertently misleading millions of young people and endangering lives.
. . . .
PENCE: Well, I'm very grieved about it, frankly, less as a congressman and simply more as a parent that the White House seems to be sending mixed signals on this message that is affecting so many families because, you know, far beyond we can argue about the science here, and I think that speaks for itself. You know, there was a tone to the secretary of state's comments that was troubling to me, because he talked about putting away taboos and conservative ideas and move on to condom use and condom distribution. As someone who believes in traditional marriage, it's hard for me to see traditional marriage as an antiquated, conservative view.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/15/wbr.00.html

In 2000 Mike Pence ran for Congress again and won on an anti-abortion, smaller government platform. This gave him an opportunity to promote his religious beliefs in the government.
http://www.indianapolismonthly.com/news-opinion/incoming-mike-pence/

In 2001, the newly-elected Pence talked to The Hill about his marriage: “He never dines alone with a woman who is not his wife. And when his wife is absent, he never attends events where alcohol flows. ‘If there’s alcohol being served and people are being loose, I want to have the best-looking brunette in the room standing next to me,’ Pence said. As it happens, Pence frequently turns down invitations for drinks or dinner from male colleagues. ‘It’s about building a zone around your marriage,’ he observed.”
https://craigfehrman.com/2013/01/09/mike-pences-religion/

Mike Pence does seem sincere in his views about the proper way to conduct his marriage. He does not seem to object to Karen Pence’s work as a schoolteacher. He appears to be a loving husband who works to maintain a good marriage. There do not seem to be any scandals involving his marriage or parenting. The real concern is Mike Pence’s insistence on trying to impose his personal faith on everyone else.

Serving six terms in Congress beginning in 2001, Pence was the compleat evangelical warrior. He kept his Bible handy to consult on matters of public policy and became a paladin of the pro-life cause. Nothing, he claimed, was more important than his faith.
http://religionnews.com/2016/07/18/mike-pence-christian-evangelical-cath...

Religious faith is a personal matter, but when it is used to determine public policy it also becomes a matter of public interest. Mike Pence has repeatedly made it clear that he believes he should impose his religious beliefs on matters of public policy that affect us all. This makes his religious views a legitimate matter of public concern, especially for those of us who do not share all his religious opinions.

Share
up
0 users have voted.

Comments

What do Vice President Pence, First-Kid Barron Trump, and Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling have in common?

Architecture.

Sure, we all grow-up in a building of some sort, but only a few people grow-up in a Wikipedia-cited house, building, or in the case of VP Pence, Wikipedia-cited Columbus Indiana - noted for its world-famous public/private architecture. (Rowling's childhood house even has it's own Wikipedia page: Church Cottage, Tutshill - with a big picture!)

So if you need to learn more about any of those three people, I'm thinking architecture needs to be noted as an influence.

best, john

up
0 users have voted.

Strange that a harp of thousand strings should keep in tune so long

asterisk's picture

@jabney Although their housing may influence their personalities, they will not be imposing their housing preferences on the rest of us. Mike Pence has already imposed his religious beliefs by restricting availability of health care for many women. If he becomes President he will be able to set government policy on gender issues, environmental issues and foreign policy toward Israel, among many other things.

When Mike Pence objects to the use of birth control he is calling upon Catholic teachings. He has made it clear that he feels entitled to turn his personal religious beliefs into government policies and legislation.

Most Protestant denominations have no objection to the use of birth control by married couples.

According to the The United Church of God:

God created humans as male and female and considered His whole creation “very good” (Genesis 1:31). He planned for husbands and wives to be joined together and to become one flesh through sexual relations (Genesis 2:24), and He calls the marriage bed “undefiled” (Hebrews 13:4).

Children are a natural result of sexual intercourse between a husband and wife and are called “a gift from the Lord” (Psalms 127:3, New Living Translation). But the Bible does not restrict sex in marriage to be only for making babies. In fact, the Bible encourages husbands and wives to give pleasure to their mates.

Our Marriage and Family: The Missing Dimension booklet points out: “The idea that sex was dirty and evil was an idea that crept into Christianity from early Catholic teachers. Their compromise with the obvious reality that sexual activity was necessary to have children resulted in their teaching that sex should only be engaged in by married couples when they wanted to have children. Yet there is no such instruction in the Bible. . . . .

One passage often cited as prohibiting birth control is in Genesis 38. This sad story is one of selfishness and rebellion, but does not make a statement about birth control in general.

After Tamar’s husband Er died, her father-in-law Judah told his son Onan, “‘You must marry Tamar, as our law requires of the brother of a man who has died. Her first son from you will be your brother’s heir.’ But Onan was not willing to have a child who would not be his own heir. So whenever he had intercourse with Tamar, he spilled the semen on the ground to keep from having a baby who would belong to his brother” (Genesis 38:8-9, NLT). Onan’s sin was rebellion and selfishness, not birth control.

https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/what-d...

According to the Living Church of God:

God created us with the potential to become like Him one day—to be future members of the God family (1 John 3:2). God desires "godly offspring" (Malachi 2:15). He designed man and woman—husband and wife—to reproduce in His image, and to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:26, 28). Sexual intercourse is not sin; it is a beautiful gift God has given to His children (see "Is Sex Sin?," Tomorrow’s World, July–August 2005). It is a gift He intends human beings to reserve for husband and wife . . . .

God similarly expects all of us to plan wisely for the future. He does not appreciate when we fail to plan, and then attempt to pressure Him into bailing us out (Matthew 4:7). Nowhere does the Bible teach against the principle of contraception or birth control. In fact, powerful godly principles support it. Respecting God and His word involves both listening to what it says and recognizing what it does not say. Notice what Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong, a dedicated long-time servant of God, pointed out decades ago in his book, The Missing Dimension in Sex:

"Planned parenthood violates NO LAW OF God! Planned parenthood is a definite contribution to this supreme purpose of character building. It entails, of course, the responsibility for right and wise planning… Any teaching or legislating which violates this divine PURPOSE of God—which instills in wives the dread of and fear of pregnancy—is a religious heresy, and/or a violation of the higher Laws of Almighty God! No wife should ever need to suffer the fear of pregnancy…

To prevent having children and producing a FAMILY would be a direct violation of God’s command, ’Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.’ But to PLAN a family in an intelligent manner, as to the time of the first arrival, and the time-spacing of other children—that is a different matter. Nothing in the Bible forbids this. MUCH in the Bible, in principle, supports it!" (p. 232).

http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/lcg/lcn/lcn-issue.cgi?category=LivingChurchNe...

The La Vista Church of Christ in Omaha, Nebraska, explains the proper use of various types of birth control including condoms. Abstinence is for those who are not married, but many types of contraceptives are recommended for married couples to use in planning pregnancies.

As we mentioned before, the Roman Catholic church objects to most forms of birth control. From their viewpoint, sex was given by God to reproduce. Anything that interferes with the possibility of a child resulting from an act of sexual intercourse is considered to be going against the command of God to be fruitful and multiply.

The Catholics might have a point if the only purpose for sex is to produce children. However, sex serves a legitimate purpose separate from reproduction. Paul tells us that sex is an expression of marital affection and a means of controlling sexual desires (I Corinthians 7:2-9). It is expected that couples enjoy sex (Proverbs 5:18-19). In fact, we can see from these teachings that couples are permitted, expected, and even commanded to have sexual intercourse even if the conception of children is not desired or possible at the time of having sexual relations.

. . . .

The use of contraceptives is simply another tool to control the course of nature for man’s needs and enjoyment. There are times when having children would not be wise. For example, when a wife is having health problems, when a couple is older and a pregnancy might risk the woman’s health or carry a high risk of producing a defective child, or when a couple is not financially able to support another child. Sexual intercourse is required in a marriage and avoiding sex simply to avoid having a child is not right. Like all authorized activities the control of the production of children can be misused. However, because some misuse a right does not imply that a practice is inherently wrong.

http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVstudies/Preparation/Contraceptive...

up
0 users have voted.

Anyone who does not intend to uphold the American Constitution in upholding the rights of the people and their welfare, with that of the country, is forsworn even while taking the oath on which holding public office depends. And crossed fingers held behind the back doesn't make it OK.

Anyone gaining public office who plans on allowing the damaging the health of the American people and environment for profit to those acting against the very survival of the people and country has clearly branded himself not only unfit, but a criminal.

Poisoning/conspiring to 'expediently' poison people for profit or ideological reasons cannot be 'legalized' even if it is large-scale, typically gradual in disease/dysfunction causation and not generally immediate in obvious effects.

And anyone who believes differently needs to be kept out of any position providing the ability to harm others.

In a democracy, nobody is or can be 'above the law' - and the people have to remember and enforce this, or the 'above the law' criminals will become what they are now - an immediate hazard to civilization, health and life itself.

Edited for typo-ed letter.

up
0 users have voted.

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.