In just a few hours, the filth, the pig, the enemy of life, the choleric sewage, the anathema, the imp of satan, will surrender his lifelong guilty ass, to Fani—black, and I mean all the way, both ways, woman—Willis.
The Willis 'case' almost entirely amounts to a grandstanding politi-tactical assault on free speech and itself amounts to election interference - in the 2024 election.
Consider, for starters, that Trump, under pre-trial restrictions is prohibited from communicating directly with co-defendants - who happen to be a bunch of his closest advisors and who are all prohibited from communicating with one another. Beyond that, as these are criminal proceedings, Trump and other defendants are required to attend trial proceedings - keeping Trump off the campaign trail during the main campaign season.
Much has been made of legal challenges to the 2020 election not succeeding. But in nearly all cases they were denied hearing on the merits. Potential silver lining in the GA cases is that discovery will permit disclosure of previously withheld material and allow evidence of election/ballot fraud to be placed in trial records.
Essentially, the prosecution has to demonstrate that Trump *knew* that his claims of fraud/misconduct were false - thus allowing him to introduce material supporting his claim to having held a reasonable (even if wrong) belief that misconduct had occurred that could have switched the outcome.
Willis (who could have brought this case a year or more ago) may find she has a tiger by the tail. Giuliani and Sidney Powell, to name just a couple of defendants, are skilled, experienced and tenacious fighters.
Even if they somehow manage to prevent Trump's candidacy, Vivek R. is coming on strong and well prepared to kick Biden (or whoever the Dem establishment attempts to throw in as a replacement) butt into long overdue retirement (although prison would be far more appropriate).
exercise civility toward one another and reserve vitriol for auslanders. Not that this drifts past marginal, but ...
be well and have a good one
somebodies mask is too fucking tight
or maybe you need another jab?
six separate screeds
should be on the sixth booster
by now
correlation or causation?
wow, just wow
maybe turn off the boob tube, perchance?
good luck
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@Tall Bald and Ugly
and I have no business trying to influence the people who run this board. I agree with you about the incivility of these posts, but I would guess that their answer would be that Hecate's belligerence is not directed at anyone who posts here. Whatever the thinking behind this intervention directed at you, speaking as a long-time message board addict, I believe that the only reasonable way to respond to unbuttered vitriol is with the same level of vitriol. Calling Trump, "The Kleagle" is one of the few ways to swing and miss while insulting Donnie Shrimpfingers -- a famous creep whom I have detested from the first time I saw his face on TV, 30 or so years ago.
Insulting his fans is too easy, and, in my opinion, counterproductive.
My unsolicited opinion:
If the Home Team wants to keep this place civil, this crap should be discouraged, rather than protected.
those #2.1 Six posts Weren’t some lame attempt to Dunk on 47%
of the country?
and That’s being civil?
got it
oh, and this
Not that this drifts past marginal, but ...
in that case you mind gettin’ up
off my neck?
thanks
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
If you are puttin' feelers out for which way those of us here are leaning re: Trump, I think I can speak for most of us.
We still hate Trump and everything he stands for, but he has a right to run for POTUS.
What is being done to him could be done to anyone that crosses the Deep State, 17 ways to Sunday.
It's not what is being done to him that is important, it is the example of the power of our overlords. And in our faces now, because they have no fear of being defeated.
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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
the fact that any semblance of restraint in the name of comity has now been removed from the partisan bickering. I suspect that we've seen the last time a president *won't* be automatically impeached. Further, the repubs are just salivating at their next crack at the levers of power, especially if they achieve a supermajority. The entire DoJ will then spend the rest of its career prosecuting the members of the previous administrations from the other party- until the inevitable overreach makes fortunes change, and the other party gets to wield the Club of Revenge. While the Owners sit back and laugh- their bread, our circus. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Tat, meet tit. If you thought we had gridlock before, you ain't seen nothing yet...
If you are puttin' feelers out for which way those of us here are leaning re: Trump, I think I can speak for most of us.
We still hate Trump and everything he stands for, but he has a right to run for POTUS.
What is being done to him could be done to anyone that crosses the Deep State, 17 ways to Sunday.
It's not what is being done to him that is important, it is the example of the power of our overlords. And in our faces now, because they have no fear of being defeated.
It was a kangaroo court where the judge just shrugged at what the lawyer said. But that message should have been heard loud and clear with the persecution of Julian Assange! The PTB are screaming don’t F with us and our plans!
Here’s another essay that I highly recommend reading. The constitution is no longer in effect in America and not too many people seem to be concerned about it.
How did executive orders become legal in America? What gives the president the authority to take all power for himself? That was the very reason why the founders wrote the constitution in the fcking first place! So that the government couldn’t override the constitution and the will of the people.
If you are puttin' feelers out for which way those of us here are leaning re: Trump, I think I can speak for most of us.
We still hate Trump and everything he stands for, but he has a right to run for POTUS.
What is being done to him could be done to anyone that crosses the Deep State, 17 ways to Sunday.
It's not what is being done to him that is important, it is the example of the power of our overlords. And in our faces now, because they have no fear of being defeated.
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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
you've saved up a lot you wanted to get off your chest, but probably better to dispense it in smaller doses over time.
That said, the only takeaway I have from last night's free for all that I didn't watch was that apparently only 1 of the 8 Gooper candidates, Gov Asa Hutchinson, had the cojones to clearly signal that he would not support Trump if he's nominated. He finds him "morally disqualified" from holding office again. Agree.
But for his stance generally supporting Biden on the US's dangerous activity in Ukraine, I would say there is still hope sanity can prevail in that party, but even on that he rightly opposes Ukr becoming part of NATO, which is refreshing to hear. But he's only at
(Insert here: I am a firm 14th Am sec 3 guy -- Trump should be disqualified from holding fed office again. Apparently, as this section does not require further action from Congress, it will be up to some bold state secretaries of state to assert this part of the constitution to keep his name off the ballot, which I would wholeheartedly support.)
We opted instead to watch Liam Neeson in Non-Stop on Netflix, highly rec action flick aboard an airliner. Co-starring Julianne Moore. 2014
Too depressing to think about too much, but if by next year it comes down to Trump v Biden again, I might have to consider my options re moving to Denmark.
you've saved up a lot you wanted to get off your chest, but probably better to dispense it in smaller doses over time.
That said, the only takeaway I have from last night's free for all that I didn't watch was that apparently only 1 of the 8 Gooper candidates, Gov Asa Hutchinson, had the cojones to clearly signal that he would not support Trump if he's nominated. He finds him "morally disqualified" from holding office again. Agree.
But for his stance generally supporting Biden on the US's dangerous activity in Ukraine, I would say there is still hope sanity can prevail in that party, but even on that he rightly opposes Ukr becoming part of NATO, which is refreshing to hear. But he's only at
@wokkamile
I didn't watch either. What I have heard and seen on morning reports contains two truly frightening incidents. First, "Vivek", the guy all the You tubers were talking about said something along the lines of government is paying women to not have a man in their homes? Huh? How many black eyes and broken bones will it take to convince some folks that not all marriages or partnerships are made in heaven? The second frightening thing was what wokkamile referenced above, that 7 of 8 indicated that they would vote for Trump even if he were convicted of a felony. What the MAGA faction fundamentally wants is cultural and legal permission to flout laws whenever they choose.
you've saved up a lot you wanted to get off your chest, but probably better to dispense it in smaller doses over time.
That said, the only takeaway I have from last night's free for all that I didn't watch was that apparently only 1 of the 8 Gooper candidates, Gov Asa Hutchinson, had the cojones to clearly signal that he would not support Trump if he's nominated. He finds him "morally disqualified" from holding office again. Agree.
But for his stance generally supporting Biden on the US's dangerous activity in Ukraine, I would say there is still hope sanity can prevail in that party, but even on that he rightly opposes Ukr becoming part of NATO, which is refreshing to hear. But he's only at
About the system discouraging two-parent families among poor people is decades-old news - poor single parents (almost always mothers) can (could, anyway) collect welfare benefits but if both parents were present no $$.
The difference in outcomes for children of single v. both parents present families is well documented and glaring. Prior to the Great Society initiatives of the 1960's rates of marriage for blacks were higher and of illegitimacy lower than for whites. Welfare policies that split families and encourage dependence have had a huge and negative impact.
All of which is to say that Vivek's comment is well-grounded in reality. Perhaps you think that Black Lives Matter's stated aim of destruction of the nuclear family is preferable? You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
As for willingness to vote for Trump even if he's convicted of something - neither Trump nor a Trump supporter could hope to escape conviction in DC no matter the substance (if any) of the charge. What kind of jury pool could you hope to get where 90%+ voted for Biden? And voting for Biden with his decades of grifting would somehow be the morally superior alternative just because (so far) he's never been held formally accountable?
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Thomas Sowell
#5 I didn't watch either. What I have heard and seen on morning reports contains two truly frightening incidents. First, "Vivek", the guy all the You tubers were talking about said something along the lines of government is paying women to not have a man in their homes? Huh? How many black eyes and broken bones will it take to convince some folks that not all marriages or partnerships are made in heaven? The second frightening thing was what wokkamile referenced above, that 7 of 8 indicated that they would vote for Trump even if he were convicted of a felony. What the MAGA faction fundamentally wants is cultural and legal permission to flout laws whenever they choose.
@Blue Republic
Vivek is a 2nd generation Brahmin from India--yes, I know he was born here and has every right to run for any office he likes. What I dispute is how much he knows about the United States outside of the affluent neighborhoods where he has spent his entire life.
It is not the DC case Trump needs to worry about; it is the RICO case in Georgia, which is, if no longer a red state, not altogether blue. Nice bit of misdirection there. The candidate who is being targeted by establishment shenanigans is Mr. Kennedy because he is saying, out loud and in public, things the powers that be don't want said. The former president has Secret Service protection, which I do not begrudge him; Mr. Kennedy was denied SS protection, with no reason given.
If you want to encourage family formation among young people, then you need to support policies such as higher wages, rent controls across the nation, not just in NYC and Berkeley, price controls on necessary items such as housing, food and utilities. Make up your mind. Is it family formation, or is it profits for Wall Street that matters to you?
About the system discouraging two-parent families among poor people is decades-old news - poor single parents (almost always mothers) can (could, anyway) collect welfare benefits but if both parents were present no $$.
The difference in outcomes for children of single v. both parents present families is well documented and glaring. Prior to the Great Society initiatives of the 1960's rates of marriage for blacks were higher and of illegitimacy lower than for whites. Welfare policies that split families and encourage dependence have had a huge and negative impact.
All of which is to say that Vivek's comment is well-grounded in reality. Perhaps you think that Black Lives Matter's stated aim of destruction of the nuclear family is preferable? You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
As for willingness to vote for Trump even if he's convicted of something - neither Trump nor a Trump supporter could hope to escape conviction in DC no matter the substance (if any) of the charge. What kind of jury pool could you hope to get where 90%+ voted for Biden? And voting for Biden with his decades of grifting would somehow be the morally superior alternative just because (so far) he's never been held formally accountable?
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Before, I always left room for your reasonable responses, even if I didn’t agree with or support them.
The following quote you conclude with is quite repugnant to me.
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Thomas Sowell
You can't blame on welfare what historical conditions necessitated, as if those original conditions were more favourable.
About the system discouraging two-parent families among poor people is decades-old news - poor single parents (almost always mothers) can (could, anyway) collect welfare benefits but if both parents were present no $$.
The difference in outcomes for children of single v. both parents present families is well documented and glaring. Prior to the Great Society initiatives of the 1960's rates of marriage for blacks were higher and of illegitimacy lower than for whites. Welfare policies that split families and encourage dependence have had a huge and negative impact.
All of which is to say that Vivek's comment is well-grounded in reality. Perhaps you think that Black Lives Matter's stated aim of destruction of the nuclear family is preferable? You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
As for willingness to vote for Trump even if he's convicted of something - neither Trump nor a Trump supporter could hope to escape conviction in DC no matter the substance (if any) of the charge. What kind of jury pool could you hope to get where 90%+ voted for Biden? And voting for Biden with his decades of grifting would somehow be the morally superior alternative just because (so far) he's never been held formally accountable?
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Before, I always left room for your reasonable responses, even if I didn’t agree with or support them.
The following quote you conclude with is quite repugnant to me.
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Thomas Sowell
You can't blame on welfare what historical conditions necessitated, as if those original conditions were more favourable.
Initially I found the quote offensive because I read it as crediting times of slavery as better in comparison to current conditions for blacks. I still do feel the same to some extent. When I reconsider the quote I realise that it was not dismissing welfare in general, but in reference to the change since ‘Liberals’ expansion of the welfare state. I don’t know welfare's historical context well enough to know who or what is to blame for the current conditions. Maybe the welfare state was more favourable at another time. I can only imagine that if it were delivered properly it would still be beneficial. Maybe it’s not a question of welfare or not, but the way it is delivered?
#5.2.1.2
Do you find something factually wrong with his statement or is that not relevant to your finding it repugnant?
Here's the man himself discussing the very subject. Maybe you can point out the bits you think he's getting wrong:
"We are not here in this world to find elegant solutions, pregnant with initiative, or to serve the ways and modes of profitable progress. No, we are here to provide for all those who are weaker and hungrier, more battered and crippled than ourselves. That is our only certain good and great purpose on earth, and if you ask me about those insoluble economic problems that may arise if the top is deprived of their initiative, I would answer 'To hell with them.' The top is greedy and mean and will always find a way to take care of themselves. They always do."
Initially I found the quote offensive because I read it as crediting times of slavery as better in comparison to current conditions for blacks. I still do feel the same to some extent. When I reconsider the quote I realise that it was not dismissing welfare in general, but in reference to the change since ‘Liberals’ expansion of the welfare state. I don’t know welfare's historical context well enough to know who or what is to blame for the current conditions. Maybe the welfare state was more favourable at another time. I can only imagine that if it were delivered properly it would still be beneficial. Maybe it’s not a question of welfare or not, but the way it is delivered?
an alleged porn worker. There is a reason why we have statutes of limitations. I am appalled by the sloppy carelessness of keeping govt. records in one's personal home, long after having left office, and I consider such carelessness reason not to vote for someone for high office. However, I also know that much is stamped secret which should not be.
Having typed all that, I was horrified by the events of Jan. 6th, which Mr. Trump did incite. I also consider it highly improper, to say the least, for a sitting president to make an intimidating phone call to a state Secretary of State. So, yes I do hope the Georgia prosecution is successful.
And, in case anyone is wondering, I absolutely think Democrats should be investigated, starting with Mme. C.
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Off our meds?
Much?
The Willis 'case' almost entirely amounts to a grandstanding politi-tactical assault on free speech and itself amounts to election interference - in the 2024 election.
Consider, for starters, that Trump, under pre-trial restrictions is prohibited from communicating directly with co-defendants - who happen to be a bunch of his closest advisors and who are all prohibited from communicating with one another. Beyond that, as these are criminal proceedings, Trump and other defendants are required to attend trial proceedings - keeping Trump off the campaign trail during the main campaign season.
Much has been made of legal challenges to the 2020 election not succeeding. But in nearly all cases they were denied hearing on the merits. Potential silver lining in the GA cases is that discovery will permit disclosure of previously withheld material and allow evidence of election/ballot fraud to be placed in trial records.
Essentially, the prosecution has to demonstrate that Trump *knew* that his claims of fraud/misconduct were false - thus allowing him to introduce material supporting his claim to having held a reasonable (even if wrong) belief that misconduct had occurred that could have switched the outcome.
Willis (who could have brought this case a year or more ago) may find she has a tiger by the tail. Giuliani and Sidney Powell, to name just a couple of defendants, are skilled, experienced and tenacious fighters.
Even if they somehow manage to prevent Trump's candidacy, Vivek R. is coming on strong and well prepared to kick Biden (or whoever the Dem establishment attempts to throw in as a replacement) butt into long overdue retirement (although prison would be far more appropriate).
Uh, me thinks
somebodies mask is too fucking tight
or maybe you need another jab?
six separate screeds
should be on the sixth booster
by now
correlation or causation?
wow, just wow
maybe turn off the boob tube, perchance?
good luck
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
let us not forget the theorem that we are supposed to
exercise civility toward one another and reserve vitriol for auslanders. Not that this drifts past marginal, but ...
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Soooo
those Six posts Weren’t some lame attempt to Dunk on 47%
of the country?
and That’s being civil?
got it
oh, and this
Not that this drifts past marginal, but ...
in that case you mind gettin’ up
off my neck?
thanks
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
I'm not part of the home team
and I have no business trying to influence the people who run this board. I agree with you about the incivility of these posts, but I would guess that their answer would be that Hecate's belligerence is not directed at anyone who posts here. Whatever the thinking behind this intervention directed at you, speaking as a long-time message board addict, I believe that the only reasonable way to respond to unbuttered vitriol is with the same level of vitriol. Calling Trump, "The Kleagle" is one of the few ways to swing and miss while insulting Donnie Shrimpfingers -- a famous creep whom I have detested from the first time I saw his face on TV, 30 or so years ago.
Insulting his fans is too easy, and, in my opinion, counterproductive.
My unsolicited opinion:
If the Home Team wants to keep this place civil, this crap should be discouraged, rather than protected.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Ahhh, hecate...
We've missed ya!
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Welcome back, Hecate
If you are puttin' feelers out for which way those of us here are leaning re: Trump, I think I can speak for most of us.
We still hate Trump and everything he stands for, but he has a right to run for POTUS.
What is being done to him could be done to anyone that crosses the Deep State, 17 ways to Sunday.
It's not what is being done to him that is important, it is the example of the power of our overlords. And in our faces now, because they have no fear of being defeated.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Well, there's also
the fact that any semblance of restraint in the name of comity has now been removed from the partisan bickering. I suspect that we've seen the last time a president *won't* be automatically impeached. Further, the repubs are just salivating at their next crack at the levers of power, especially if they achieve a supermajority. The entire DoJ will then spend the rest of its career prosecuting the members of the previous administrations from the other party- until the inevitable overreach makes fortunes change, and the other party gets to wield the Club of Revenge. While the Owners sit back and laugh- their bread, our circus. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Tat, meet tit. If you thought we had gridlock before, you ain't seen nothing yet...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Absolutely that is the message being sent
And Trump isn’t the only one receiving it.
CJ Hopkins has been found guilty of supporting Nazis in Germany and he makes the case for what message is being sent. This is a must read. It’s the same message being sent to the 1/6 rioters and anyone else who dares to stand up to power.
It was a kangaroo court where the judge just shrugged at what the lawyer said. But that message should have been heard loud and clear with the persecution of Julian Assange! The PTB are screaming don’t F with us and our plans!
Here’s another essay that I highly recommend reading. The constitution is no longer in effect in America and not too many people seem to be concerned about it.
Has the U.S. Constitution 'effectively been terminated?
How did executive orders become legal in America? What gives the president the authority to take all power for himself? That was the very reason why the founders wrote the constitution in the fcking first place! So that the government couldn’t override the constitution and the will of the people.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Looks like
you've saved up a lot you wanted to get off your chest, but probably better to dispense it in smaller doses over time.
That said, the only takeaway I have from last night's free for all that I didn't watch was that apparently only 1 of the 8 Gooper candidates, Gov Asa Hutchinson, had the cojones to clearly signal that he would not support Trump if he's nominated. He finds him "morally disqualified" from holding office again. Agree.
But for his stance generally supporting Biden on the US's dangerous activity in Ukraine, I would say there is still hope sanity can prevail in that party, but even on that he rightly opposes Ukr becoming part of NATO, which is refreshing to hear. But he's only at
<5% support
at this time, and a longer than long shot overall.
(Insert here: I am a firm 14th Am sec 3 guy -- Trump should be disqualified from holding fed office again. Apparently, as this section does not require further action from Congress, it will be up to some bold state secretaries of state to assert this part of the constitution to keep his name off the ballot, which I would wholeheartedly support.)
We opted instead to watch Liam Neeson in Non-Stop on Netflix, highly rec action flick aboard an airliner. Co-starring Julianne Moore. 2014
Too depressing to think about too much, but if by next year it comes down to Trump v Biden again, I might have to consider my options re moving to Denmark.
Republican debate
I didn't watch either. What I have heard and seen on morning reports contains two truly frightening incidents. First, "Vivek", the guy all the You tubers were talking about said something along the lines of government is paying women to not have a man in their homes? Huh? How many black eyes and broken bones will it take to convince some folks that not all marriages or partnerships are made in heaven? The second frightening thing was what wokkamile referenced above, that 7 of 8 indicated that they would vote for Trump even if he were convicted of a felony. What the MAGA faction fundamentally wants is cultural and legal permission to flout laws whenever they choose.
Mary Bennett
Vivek's comment
About the system discouraging two-parent families among poor people is decades-old news - poor single parents (almost always mothers) can (could, anyway) collect welfare benefits but if both parents were present no $$.
The difference in outcomes for children of single v. both parents present families is well documented and glaring. Prior to the Great Society initiatives of the 1960's rates of marriage for blacks were higher and of illegitimacy lower than for whites. Welfare policies that split families and encourage dependence have had a huge and negative impact.
All of which is to say that Vivek's comment is well-grounded in reality. Perhaps you think that Black Lives Matter's stated aim of destruction of the nuclear family is preferable? You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
As for willingness to vote for Trump even if he's convicted of something - neither Trump nor a Trump supporter could hope to escape conviction in DC no matter the substance (if any) of the charge. What kind of jury pool could you hope to get where 90%+ voted for Biden? And voting for Biden with his decades of grifting would somehow be the morally superior alternative just because (so far) he's never been held formally accountable?
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Thomas Sowell
@Blue Republic Vivek is a 2nd
Vivek is a 2nd generation Brahmin from India--yes, I know he was born here and has every right to run for any office he likes. What I dispute is how much he knows about the United States outside of the affluent neighborhoods where he has spent his entire life.
It is not the DC case Trump needs to worry about; it is the RICO case in Georgia, which is, if no longer a red state, not altogether blue. Nice bit of misdirection there. The candidate who is being targeted by establishment shenanigans is Mr. Kennedy because he is saying, out loud and in public, things the powers that be don't want said. The former president has Secret Service protection, which I do not begrudge him; Mr. Kennedy was denied SS protection, with no reason given.
If you want to encourage family formation among young people, then you need to support policies such as higher wages, rent controls across the nation, not just in NYC and Berkeley, price controls on necessary items such as housing, food and utilities. Make up your mind. Is it family formation, or is it profits for Wall Street that matters to you?
Mary Bennett
You lost me
Before, I always left room for your reasonable responses, even if I didn’t agree with or support them.
The following quote you conclude with is quite repugnant to me.
"The black family survived centuries of slavery and generations of Jim Crow, but it has disintegrated in the wake of the liberals' expansion of the welfare state."
Thomas Sowell
You can't blame on welfare what historical conditions necessitated, as if those original conditions were more favourable.
Well...
Do you find something factually wrong with his statement or is that not relevant to your finding it repugnant?
Here's the man himself discussing the very subject. Maybe you can point out the bits you think he's getting wrong:
Glad you asked me to consider more closely the Sowell quote.
Initially I found the quote offensive because I read it as crediting times of slavery as better in comparison to current conditions for blacks. I still do feel the same to some extent. When I reconsider the quote I realise that it was not dismissing welfare in general, but in reference to the change since ‘Liberals’ expansion of the welfare state. I don’t know welfare's historical context well enough to know who or what is to blame for the current conditions. Maybe the welfare state was more favourable at another time. I can only imagine that if it were delivered properly it would still be beneficial. Maybe it’s not a question of welfare or not, but the way it is delivered?
I just read the opening quote in joe's EBs tonight,
and in my mind it relates to this discussion ...
I don't care about Mr. Trump'e alleged involvement with
an alleged porn worker. There is a reason why we have statutes of limitations. I am appalled by the sloppy carelessness of keeping govt. records in one's personal home, long after having left office, and I consider such carelessness reason not to vote for someone for high office. However, I also know that much is stamped secret which should not be.
Having typed all that, I was horrified by the events of Jan. 6th, which Mr. Trump did incite. I also consider it highly improper, to say the least, for a sitting president to make an intimidating phone call to a state Secretary of State. So, yes I do hope the Georgia prosecution is successful.
And, in case anyone is wondering, I absolutely think Democrats should be investigated, starting with Mme. C.
Mary Bennett