The Dose 11-23-21

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STUNNING - No Reinfection in Previously Infected (Harvard Preprint Study)

This study from Harvard Medical School done in healthcare workers shows the COVID incidence rate in vaccinated, unvaccinated, and previously infected individuals. Let's review the study. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.15.21265753v1.full.pdf

Yet another reason mandates are a mistake. Mandating a leaky vaccine is absurd, but that's the world we're facing.

Hope you're all doing well and feeling healthy!

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Perhaps they are a tool to measure an individual’s compliance quotient. (Our version of a ‘Social Credit’ score)

Here in the US it is clear that our mRNA COVID vaccines currently:
-Do not protect from infection
-Do not protect from spread to others
-Do not protect an individual from illness or reinfection
-Do not reliably protect from serious illness and death
-Only temporarily reduce serious illness and death for individuals (more like a therapeutic treatment than a vaccine)

In short there is no rational epidemiological basis for vaccine status to be a meaningful metric for managing this pandemic, or limiting an individual’s rights or freedoms. However “Vaccine Passports” and mandates to uptake an ineffective medical intervention is a very good indicator of an individuals compliance and credulity.

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@ovals49

Illinois has its vaccine passports tied to experian or one of the credit card reporting agencies. Seems highly questionable that they have done that. Especially when they can’t seem to keep people’s information safe from being stolen.

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In a free country civil liberties are not only for certain groups.
So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause.
The donor class doesn’t want it, and Americans elect the bribed. So suck it up.

Thank you for highlighting this study, which points to the strength of naturally acquired immunity. The omission of this factor in the crafting of our National pandemic response plan is glaring, and not easily explained away given the currently available data.

It looks very much like willful ignorance on the part of those who are pushing mandatory vaccinations and vaccine passports, even as they continue to syphon off enormous profits from the sale of these increasingly ineffective vaccines to children and infants who have very little use for them.

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Truth is the daughter of time, not of authority. Meanwhile people are dying because of the material self-interest of a few. - Eduardo Giuliani

“Without a diversity of opinions, the discovery of truth is impossible.” - Alexander von Humboldt

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@ovals49
was not included with the vaccinated cohort because they didn't want people to get infected on purpose – like chickenpox parties.

With the longer lasting robust natural immunity as compared to the temporary gene therapy induced 'immunity', it would create a three tiered system when it comes to mandating vaccines. This three tiered system would effectively hinder if not destroy the control aspects of the constantly renewable state run/policed legal mandate.

Whether or not this virus was engineered, TPTB have taken full advantage of the pandemic to further Klaus Schwab's The Great Reset that we are not so gently being herded toward.

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@CB with getting vaccinated, plus booster after booster.

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The correct response to someone who supports going to war if China attacks Taiwan is “Are you enlisted?”

The correct response when they inevitably answer “no” is “Then shut the fuck up.”

Caitlin

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@ggersh

Facts notwithstanding, they are still pushing the vax madness.
Hope people are paying attention to this shell game.
Apparently, folks in other countries are protesting en masse.

Getting time for these heavy handed regimes to re-think their
pharma solutions.

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@QMS https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/a-pandemic-of-the-vac...

A snippet

The Gateway to the Mediterranean, the territory of Gibraltar, contains the famed Rock of Gibraltar, whose strait can be seen from space. The Rock has been a symbol of British Naval Strength; however, now in the COVID-19 Pandemic, it has become a symbol of vaccine weakness.

Gibraltar is the most vaccinated place on the planet with more than 99% of its population fully vaccinated, and with many also having received a booster. A total of 94,019 vaccine doses have been administered to Gibraltarians.

Considering Gibraltar has a population of some 30,000, that works out to an average of three shots per person.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1522994/Gibraltar-news-covid-cases-...

Newsweek reports that Gibraltar has administered enough shots to have vaccinated about 140% of its population.

https://www.newsweek.com/christmas-celebration-gibraltar-vaccine-coronav...

One might expect that they have no COVID-19 cases. After all, the rest of the world is led to believe that the Holy Grail of herd immunity will come once we have sufficiently jabbed enough people with vaccines and boosters.

However, the truth of the matter is much simpler. Attempting to vaccinate into an active pandemic involving a rapidly mutating virus is not working. It does not prevent transmission, nor does it prevent infection.

While smallpox is a DNA virus that is very slow to mutate, COVID-19 is caused by an RNA virus that is prone to rapid mutation. While the vaccines were highly protective against the original Wuhan strain of SARS-CoV-2, they are no longer as effective against the Delta variant.

Gibraltar is not alone among highly vaccinated populations exhibiting massive virus surges.

According to the CDC, Vermont has a higher vaccination rate - at 72% - than any other state, yet it also has one of the highest rates of new COVID cases, according to an ABC news report.

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The correct response to someone who supports going to war if China attacks Taiwan is “Are you enlisted?”

The correct response when they inevitably answer “no” is “Then shut the fuck up.”

Caitlin

@ggersh \snark

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@NYCVG @NYCVG https://www.rt.com/news/540958-germany-moderna-rolls-royce-covid/

and then there is this for the "Millenials" Smile

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The correct response to someone who supports going to war if China attacks Taiwan is “Are you enlisted?”

The correct response when they inevitably answer “no” is “Then shut the fuck up.”

Caitlin

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....have ever had the ability to make a vaccine against a corona virus. Have they?

These so-called vaccines act as a fairly effective, short term prophylaxis. They are not without risk in their injectable form.

They can help individual 'persons' protect themselves from serious illness. They could be 1000X more useful to 'human populations' when they stop using syringes (as profit pumps) and produce them in oral form, allowing for instantaneous widespread global distribution. This has been a deliberately ignored existing technology. A self-administered oral 'vaccine'/prophylaxis can reach most of the world simultaneously. (No refrigeration, no syringes, no medical technicians required.) It's the only possible way to get ahead of the constant mutations produced globally.

This "prophylaxis" cannot hold back a wave of infection during a coronavirus epidemic.

That's why China has a zero-infection policy. Even though China is heavily vaccinated.

We lie to ourselves about everything, but especially about our health care and our government.

I predict that we will never produce an actual vaccine against an active corona virus. This was a really easy prediction to make from the very beginning. But no one ever wants to discuss how to deal with that reality. So we call prophylactics "vaccines," instead.

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@Pluto's Republic

Dr John looks at the possibilities...

This mess is solved with simple treatments, but then the great control can't be instituted.
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/11/03/japan-sees-huge-drop-in-cases-after...

The inconvenient truth is that there is no correlation between vaccination rate and covid case rates.

Vermont is 82 percent vax'd and cases are as high as they have ever been.

There are MANY examples of high vax rates and high covid case rates.

There are no examples of high Ivermectin use rates and covid case rate NOT coming down dramatically.

https://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=633&mn=342125&pt=msg&mid=226...

As many have said...it didn't have to be this way.
Pretty incredible.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
Is the end of Fauci’s career and an official acknowledgement that the universal vaccination strategy was known to be a bad idea for ending the pandemic from the beginning, but a stellar idea for a massive transfer of wealth to the top.

I know, ‘dream on’, but Christmas is just around the corner and Santa is well connected……..

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“Without a diversity of opinions, the discovery of truth is impossible.” - Alexander von Humboldt

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@ovals49

Remember Fitzmas?

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven

Remember Fitzmas?

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Truth is the daughter of time, not of authority. Meanwhile people are dying because of the material self-interest of a few. - Eduardo Giuliani

“Without a diversity of opinions, the discovery of truth is impossible.” - Alexander von Humboldt

The Vaccine Only narrative is in a state of free fall now. Even Colbert has turned on the Home Team with his bullet proof vest that does not stop bullets. "Buy two more."

Is it just this simple? Neoliberal logic has driven "health" corporations down the Road of Profit Maximization to its End Game? Over the last several decades, rational decision making demanded a serious effort at Governmental Relations by the various health care corporations. In plain English, that means cooptation.

When this virus showed up, the global heath care bureaucracies were already on board for "cooperation" with the pharmaceutical and hospital owning corporations. The actual fight against the virus takes place within those business operations, not the advisory bodies. So it was a short step to Regulatory Capture that was taken 20 months ago.

As so many on this board have pointed out, the policies have been profit driven rather than result driven. That is how things are SUPPOSED to work under neo-liberal doctrine . . . .

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There is a much darker possibility. Maybe the piddling half a trillion or so bucks to be made off of vaccine is only an appetizer?

When you take a step back, and look at the rest of the social, political and economic world, the biggest anomaly is the Economic Boom for Investors in both real estate and the stock markets hiding in plain sight in the Business Press. There is no mystery or conspiracy theory involved. The Fed has been openly and proudly pumping over 100 Billion Dollars a month into those "markets."

The net tab is by now close to three trillion clams, handed out for shits and giggles. Far more money than all the vaccines could conceivably produce. Meanwhile, rents and home sale prices are beyond the reach of a growing segment of the population.

Who the hell wanted this result? And why?

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No one will ever convince me that the Vaccine Only Bullshit and this Financial Ponzi Scheme are just a coinky-dinky.

But I have no clue about how it all fits together. It does have a distinct odor, however.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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@fire with fire

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

@fire with fire
I don't know exactly how the pieces fit together either. But I've heard enough about the World Economic Forum/Klaus Schwab Great Reset to know that the plan includes obliterating the old comfortable social fabric world-wide so people will accept radical social, economic, and political restructuring. Keeping people shit-scared gives them dictatorial powers which they will lose if everyone realizes that there are inexpensive over-the-counter medicines that void their god-like powers.

Regarding the real estate situation it is working exactly as planned. They create trillions out of thin air, lend it to their trillionaire buddies who buy tangible real-estate and agricultural resources with it. Then as the dollar finally crashes they ride out the crash with their holdings in life sustaining assets. When the dust settles trillionaires will be landlords and food rationers to the world. Voila! "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy".

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Corrupt contracting firms are stealing precious jobs with impunity.

https://www.gupta-leaks.com/information/guptaleaks-how-sahara-handed-sa-...

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