The Dose 11-08-2021

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The Dose is an open thread dedicated to the gentle discussion of of all things Covid. Please refrain from posting covid material elsewhere. Thank you.

Stumbled across this not-remotely-news item the other day, covid related:
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/31/covid-deaths-diet-diseases-nutr...

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go to school board meetings and make themselves completely obnoxious fighting with other parents over useless masking and masking mandates. They will let this slide though without a peep. https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-11-05/democrats...

Kids don't need adequate ventilation anyway. Lets make sure we all fight over fake problems and fake solutions that way we don't have to pay for the more expensive real solutions.

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@randtntx is marketed as being so severe and such an emergency that we must mandate vaccine for kids as young as 5 yo immediately, you would think school infrastructure would be recognized as being equally as crucial.

After all, kids spend approximately eight hours a day in school. Mitigation measures to improve the school environment (with proper ventilation) to help decrease the risk of spreading the virus in the crowded space of schools, goes hand in hand with hyper-concern to get kids jabbed. If you are in a huge rush 'save the kids' with a jab, you must surely be in a rush to take preventative measures in order to ensure that the schools don't become the ideal place for viral transmission.

Strangely enough though, there is no rush to fix the HVAC systems in public schools. Odd that. Do we have an emergency or don't we?

In a major blow that left educators, school leaders and advocates stunned, Democrats pared back – and then eliminated – $100 billion that Joe Biden earmarked for school modernization in his spending bill.

...the COVID-19 pandemic shined a spotlight on school facilities in a way that hadn't been highlighted in decades. A 2020 report the Government Accountability Office released just at the outset of the coronavirus pandemic found that 41% of districts required HVAC system upgrades or replacements in at least half of their schools...

From the article cited in my previous comment

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don’t care about anything but getting people jabbed. Starting with no early treatment, no universal health care, no talk about how to get healthy like taking vitamins and going from there. It’s never been about our lives. Our government has never cared about them and of course the PTB couldn’t give a rat’s ass about us either. If they did then they wouldn’t bribe congress to deny the things I mentioned. From "remember the Maine" to the WMDs scam to how many people are not dying from the Rona within 14 days of being jabbed. Fear makes people obedient and not question what they are doing. And don’t forget that they hired psychiatrists to manipulate our fear.

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In a free country civil liberties are not only for certain groups.
So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause.
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@snoopydawg . It's just another example of the ongoing hypocrisy of those in authority. We know the vaccine diminishes in effectiveness within a short period of time, it doesn't confer immunity from getting the virus or prevent transmission of the virus to others. Additionally it's not safe as evidenced by way too many vaccines induced injuries. Finally, there is evidence that the trials were shoddy and flawed. Even so, they want to mandate these vaccines. Absurd.

Even more absurd is that people are willing to ignore all of the above and take the jab regardless.

All this hysteria and urgency about getting people vaccinated is rendered just plain ridiculous if we ignore all the other measures that could be used to address this crisis. Because TPTB won't use other measures or mitigation strategies, I have to conclude that there is no real intent to stop or curtail this pandemic. Thus it's all complete pretense.

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Democrats removed the $100 billion they had in the bill for schools. Congress has been stealing money from public schools and giving it to charter schools since Bush if not before. But it was ramped up big time during Obama’s tenure even more so than during Bush’s no child left behind. Then Trump put it on steroids. So again no better ventilation for kids during this unprecedented epidemic…oh gag me. I’m tired of seeing us little folks being robbed in f’cking broad daylight!

Even more absurd is that people are willing to ignore all of the above and take the jab regardless.

WMDs taught no lessons?

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That's what I'll be looking for in the news.

Chances that the mandates will be found illegal? very slim.

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"Don’t believe your government that keeps lying to you. This will never end and Johns Hopkins has already planned for the next epidemic in 2025-28."

Don’t believe it? They planned for this one long ago remember? Trump did a trial run on an epidemic and found that they weren’t ready for it. So what did he do? Nothing to get ready for it. What does that tell you?

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@snoopydawg perpetual fear. perpetual vaccinations. Lies and more lies.

Doesn't this eventually destroy many businesses? Well, not Pharma, obviously. Or the weapons and war divisions.

I guess all else can be sacrificed to ensure continuous upward flow of all money away from the gen pop and towards the Owners.

A growing nation of nomads and disenfranchised non-working families scavenging throughout the country.

The end of capitalism is mass suffering.

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The end of capitalism is mass suffering.

At the beginning of the epidemic we watched congress give their donors trillions immediately and then debated almost a year to give us a measly $1,200. Small businesses have been wiped out whilst Amazon, Walmart, Costco and other big businesses prospered. You couldn’t buy a mitt at your friendly sporting store, but you could from target. Anyone that wanted to stay open were met with fines and arrests. Now kids are still wearing masks whilst the big boys go around maskless. The end not only causes mass suffering, it also makes no GD sense.

She is absolutely right as we can see Israel is on their 5th booster. Giving the same jab for something that has mutated long ago also makes no sense. Are people waking up yet? Some are, but not enough. Yet.

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they actually created the conditions for the epidemic to become a global pandemic. I think that Fauci was the one advising Trump. Trump's ego took over from there.

2020 TIMELINE:

Jan. 12 — China shares the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus, helping countries in testing and tracing any potentially infected people.

Jan. 18-19 — Chinese authorities report a spike in 2019-nCoV cases, including first confirmed cases in Shenzhen (1 case) and Beijing (2 cases), bringing the total to 204 confirmed cases. They also report a third death linked to the new coronavirus.

Jan. 21 — WHO confirms human-to-human transmission of the virus. The total number of cases is now 222, including infections among health-care workers.

Jan. 20 - The first confirmed coronavirus case is reported near Seattle in the United States.

Jan. 21 - Fauci: "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."

Jan. 22 — Trump: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Jan. 23 — The city of Wuhan shuts down public transportation, closing the airport and railway stations as of Thursday morning, in efforts to curb the spread of the 2019-nCoV. The suspension is in effect “until further notice.” Later in the day, another city is on lockdown: Ezhou. Beijing cancels plans for Chinese new year festivities and closes the Forbidden City. Another city, Huanggang, announces it will go into lockdown Friday.

Jan. 25 — The 2019-nCoV reaches more countries. Australia confirms the first case of 2019-nCoV in the continent, with health authorities announcing three more cases later in the day. France confirms three cases, the first in Europe. Malaysia also reports the first four cases, Canada reports its first case.

Jan. 26 - Fauci: "The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously."

Jan. 29 — The coronavirus is a metaphor for two political ideas that are incompatible with the realities of the modern world: China’s Communist Party and isolationism. WSJ Opinion: A Communist Coronavirus (Video)

Jan. 30 — WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus declares the 2019-nCoV outbreak a public health emergency of international concern, noting the potential spread of the virus to countries with weak health systems.

Jan. 30 — Trump: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”

Feb. 1 — In China, confirmed cases now total 14,380 and the death toll rises above 300.

Feb. 3 — China launches a clinical trial of Gilead’s antiviral drug remdesivir, previously tested in patients with Ebola, against the 2019-nCoV, just as China’s Huoshenshan Hospital in Wuhan starts operations. The hospital was built in 10 days and is dedicated to treating 2019-nCoV patients.

Feb. 5 — In China, the central government has started penalizing officials found to be neglectful in performing their duties in relation to infection prevention and control of the outbreak, amid increasing anecdotal reports of government officials’ slow response to the early days of the outbreak.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation announces $100 million in funding in support of 2019-nCoV response and preparedness efforts. WHO estimates resources required from February to April 2020 to amount to $675 million, as per its newly launched Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan.

Feb. 7 — The Asian Development Bank approves $2 million to support response capacity efforts against the 2019-nCoV outbreak in the Asia-Pacific region. The fund will supplement the bank’s technical assistance work in several Southeast Asian countries as well as China. The bank is working with WHO to identify areas for further possible financial assistance.

Feb. 10 — An advance team for the WHO-led 2019-nCoV international mission leaves for China.

WHO chief Tedros says instances of onward transmission from people with no travel history to China are concerning, and that “the detection of this small number of cases could be the spark that becomes a bigger fire."

Feb. 10 — Trump: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.”

Feb. 11 — WHO assigns the disease caused by the novel coronavirus its official name: COVID-19.

Feb. 13 — Overnight, China reports a spike in cases, with 14,840 cases in Hubei province. This is due to the fact that the Chinese government changed its reporting to include both laboratory-confirmed cases and clinically diagnosed cases. This includes a medical professional classifying a confirmed case on the basis of chest imaging.

Feb. 14 — China reports that 1,716 health workers have contracted COVID-19 and that six of them have died.

Feb. 14 — Trump: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.”

Feb. 17 — China publishes a paper with detailed information on more than 44,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19. The data appears to show that COVID-19 is not as deadly as other types of coronaviruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome. The data shows that more than 80% of patients have mild disease; about 14% of cases lead to severe diseases, including pneumonia; about 5% of cases lead to critical diseases including respiratory failure, septic shock and multiorgan failure; and about 2% of reported cases lead to death. Mortality rates increase in older patients, with few cases among children.

Feb. 17 — Fauci: "If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store, the leakage around that doesn't really do much to protect you," he said. "People start saying, 'Should I start wearing a mask?' Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask."

Feb. 24 — "We must focus on containment, while doing everything we can to prepare for a potential pandemic," says WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus during a press conference.

Cases in China are falling, according to Dr. Bruce Aylward, who led the external experts on a mission in China for the past two weeks — from an average of 2,500 cases two weeks ago to 400 cases today. But he warned against complacency.

Feb. 24 - Trump: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

Feb. 25 - At a news conference in India, Trump says that the coronavirus is “well under control” and that there are “very few people with it.”

Feb. 26 - Trump: "Low Ratings Fake News MSDNC (Comcast) & @CNN are doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. Likewise their incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades are all talk, no action. USA in great shape!"

Feb. 26 — Trump: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”

Feb. 27 — Trump: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

Feb. 28 — WHO raises the global risk of spread of COVID-19 from “high” to “very high.”

Feb. 28 - Trump: "So, the Coronavirus, which started in China and spread to various countries throughout the world, but very slowly in the U.S. because President Trump closed our border, and ended flights, VERY EARLY, is now being blamed, by the Do Nothing Democrats, to be the fault of “Trump"."

Feb. 29 - First U.S. death related to the coronavirus is announced after an individual in Washington state dies from the illness.

The FDA issues a new policy allowing for certain labs to develop and begin using COVID-19 tests before the agency completes its review of Emergency Use Authorization requests. According to the FDA, the move is aimed at expanding testing capacity in the U.S.

Feb. 29 - Trump: “We've taken the most aggressive actions to confront the coronavirus. They are the most aggressive taken by any country. And we're the No. 1 travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.”

Feb. 29 - Fauci: “Right now, at this moment, there is no need to change anything that you’re doing on a day-by-day basis. Right now, the risk is still low.”

Mar. 4 - Trump: “It's affecting the airline business, as it would. And a lot of people are staying in our country, and they're shopping and using our hotels in this country. So, from that standpoint, I think, probably, there's a positive impact.”

Mar. 5 - Trump: "Gallup just gave us the highest rating ever for the way we are handling the CoronaVirus situation. The April 2009-10 Swine Flu, where nearly 13,000 people died in the U.S., was poorly handled. Ask MSDNC & lightweight Washington failure @RonaldKlain, who the President was then?"

Mar. 8 - Trump: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!"

Mar. 9 - Trump: "So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!"

Mar. 9 - Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Mar. 10 - Trump: “And when people need a test, they can get a test. When the professionals need a test, when they need tests for people, they can get the test. It's gone really well.”

Mar. 11 - Reuters reports that the White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified. Sources told the news outlet that “dozens of classified discussions” about the coronavirus have taken place since mid-January and that “some very critical people who did not have security clearances” had been left out.

Mar. 11 - Trump: “Using emergency authority, I will be instructing the Treasury Department to defer tax payments -- without interest or penalties -- for certain individuals and businesses negatively impacted. This action will provide more than $200 billion of additional liquidity to the economy. Finally, I am calling on Congress to provide Americans with immediate payroll tax relief. Hopefully, they will consider this very strongly. We are at a critical time in the fight against the virus. We made a lifesaving move with early action on China.”

Mar. 11 - Trump: "The Media should view this as a time of unity and strength. We have a common enemy, actually, an enemy of the World, the CoronaVirus. We must beat it as quickly and safely as possible. There is nothing more important to me than the life & safety of the United States!"

Mar. 12 - Fauci: "The system is not really geared to what we need right now (coronavirus test kits). That is a failing. Let's admit it."

Mar. 13 - In a televised address, Trump declares a national emergency. He also said there are discussions to make drive-through tests available across “critical locations.”

Mar. 16 — For the first time since the beginning of the outbreak, infections and deaths outside China surpass those within China.

The Jack Ma Foundation and the Alibaba Foundation are sending 500,000 testing kits and 1 million masks in donations to the U.S.

Mar. 22 — Global cases of COVID-19 surpass 300,000. It took over three months to reach the first 100,000 confirmed cases, 12 days to reach 200,000 and three days to reach 300,000.

Mar. 24 — Cases of COVID-19 surpass 400,000. It took over three months to reach the first 100,000 confirmed cases, 12 days to reach 200,000, three days to reach 300,000, and two days to reach 400,000.

Mar. 29 — Global death toll from COVID-19 surpasses 30,000. Cases of COVID-19 worldwide surpass 600,000.

Apr. 2 — Global cases of COVID-19 surpass 1 million.

Apr. 8 - Lock-down of Wuhan lifted.

Apr. 8 - US Cases 444,417 Deaths 19,250

Apr. 9 — One hundred days have passed since WHO was initially notified of COVID-19 in China, which was then only known as cases of “pneumonia with unknown cause.”

Apr. 11 — The United States records over 2,000 deaths in one day — the highest death rate recorded for any country during the pandemic.

Apr. 14 - China last confirmed deaths 4,633

Apr. 14 - US Cases 626,301 Deaths 32,132

Apr. 14 — U.S. President Donald Trump announces he is cutting off the nation’s contributions to the World Health Organization, criticizing the agency for mismanaging the response.

Apr. 19 — The death toll in Europe from COVID-19 surpasses 100,000.

Apr. 20 -

Aug. 18, 2020 -

Nov. 8, 2021 - Total Current
US Cases: 47,363,087 Deaths: 775,474
China Cases: 97,823 Deaths: 4,636

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Jan. 21 - Fauci: "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."

So what changed in Fauci’s mind? And guess what?

Feb. 28 - Trump: "So, the Coronavirus, which started in China and spread to various countries throughout the world, but very slowly in the U.S. because President Trump closed our border, and ended flights, VERY EARLY, is now being blamed, by the Do Nothing Democrats, to be the fault of “Trump"."

According to democrats logic that the president is responsible for every death it means that Biden is on the hook for every one that has happened during his watch. But instead democrats are blaming the unvaxxed for jabbed people getting infected. Sigh.

Mar. 8 - Trump: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!"

Well except for getting PPE to nurses and doctors and ignoring the fact that farmers were dumping millions of food because Trump didn’t make getting it to where it needed to go a priority. Neither Trump or Cuomo closed airports to foreign countries and 'cases' skyrocketed.

The flu disappeared because people wore masks, but….

I don’t know what’s true or not anymore. I guess time will tell eventually. One thing that I do know is that lots of people have lost trust in Fauci and the government over the jabbing stuff and especially the ignoring natural immunity and now the mandates.

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Imagine how many lives could have been saved if they had to do full testing before they got emergency authorization. Oh wait they did. They found that animals that were injected with it died when being exposed to the virus later. But now that they are acknowledging that there is a problem with them they will have to stop jabbing people until they finish the investigation right? How about the investigation into problems women are having? How long till we know what they found?

BUT now that there is a treatment for the Rona that means that the EAU is no longer valid right? Bueller?

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starts critiquing your shit, the jig might be up.

Very good article, I’m surprised it got published. I’d rather thought they were more like news9 out of Melbourne, well, here they are.

Lookouts been beating diet and nutrition to death for the whole time I’ve been on this blog. And not in a scolding manner, either.
Supportive, encouraging, and informative, although once in a while their intent has been taken wrong by readers. Good in the classroom, I suspect.

Diet and nutrition, Baby!

Snoopy, that Darby Shaw you posted the other day is a chilling read, well worth the time. Thank you.

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Now you know. . .
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People are posting lots of great articles on sub stack. I’ve been following Alex since before he got kicked off Twitter. Here’s his link.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/

I thought these were good too.

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-colluder-stop-enabling

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-holocaust-denier

Teachers never seem to stop teaching.

The other thing I do is read comments on the articles and people post links to other good articles. I just found this one from one. Not sure what to make of it yet but it’s interesting. Have to scroll to the point. Did y’all hear that the Pfizer CEO was arrested? I deleted my comment on it cuz it couldn’t be verified. But….

https://secularheretic.substack.com/p/shedding-revealed

Anyone interested in debating this article and the topic he’s discussing? It’s pretty mind blowing if any of it is true.

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And read the link you published.

The cause-effect seems somewhat esoteric, but there is data that can fit such a scenario. It's hard to dismiss because so much has been suppressed in the science journals and by the NIH and the CDC. The NIH in particular does excellent work, but to see its corrupt side puts everything in doubt. Of course the FDA appears routinely corrupt, and that spills onto all the US public health agencies.

And it's true that Americans, for the most part, have not received a vaccine at all. They've received a have been given genetic modifying serums. It doesn't stop infection nor the spread of infection. There are traditional vaccines in use elsewhere in the world. Those who have been vaccinated in the US need to be masked indoors and out.

No vaccine will work for long now that Covid-19 is endemic. In the US, however, SARS-CoV-2 will constantly circulate among the people and produce low-grade infections and mutations (I assume). Dangerous mutations will call for new vaccines. Fortunately, vaccines are being developed in oral form, so you only need to pop another piece of magic candy. Finally, there will be robust compliance. Those who cannot afford the new viruses will die off.

Back to shedding, I was surprised to see Dr. Judy Mikovits discussing it: POSSIBLE ANTIDOTE FOR THE V-SERUM AND THE CURRENT SPIKE PROTEIN CONTAGION She was at the NIH for many years, working on HIV. Then, things went south. There was a disagreement about the science. Some time back, I listened to two podcast interviews with her, which would prove to be very informative when Covid=19 appeared:

TOP Scientist & HIV/AIDS Research Pioneer Dr. Judy Mikovits Blows Whistle on Dr. Fauci; DISTURBING Details of Threats; Research Theft; Tainted Vaccines; Fraud; Cover-Ups; Pay to Play

TOP Scientist & HIV/AIDS Research Pioneer Dr. Judy Mikovits Was Key Witness in FBI Investigation of Dr. Fauci Before FBI’s James Comey & AG Eric Holder ‘Covered It Up’

Unfortunately, the podcasts are down, but they are out there somewhere. I notice she published a book in 2020: : Plague of Corruption; Foreward by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. She has seen it all and suffered for it.

I notice that people like Mikovits are politically naive. If she wants to get the word out, she will go to whatever media venue will feature her. These days, that is the Right. There really is no Left in the media or in popular politics that I am aware of. She is deplatformed and doesn't seem to care why. She just soldiers on. She's a scientist, and I mention her because I think she is discussing ideas related to shedding.

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Thanks for looking at it and for your opinion. There is so much new information coming out recently it’s hard for me to keep up and know what’s true or not.

From the 2nd link.

Of course the FDA appears routinely corrupt, and that spills onto all the US public health agencies.

Yep I have no trust in any of the government agencies because they have either been caught lying or have not been completely truthful with what they say. Fauci alone has been derelict in his duties for not talking about other measures people can do to get healthy. At the beginning he did talk about vitamins but nothing since. His flip flops also have decreased public trust in him. But it was his handling of the AIDS epidemic and denying Bactrim and other drugs for early treatment that should have cost him his job. The fact that he has made tons of money off tax payer research is another, but there’s more. Walensky comes across as deceiving too.

It’s going to be very hard for the public to regain any trust in them if we get hit with another epidemic. BTW I just read that the FDA has given approval for a smallpox treatment last June even though it’s been pretty much wiped out. Just in case someone uses it as a bio-weapon. Be afraid…hmm.

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The spreading article is also interesting. Remember too that some people in government and other companies are immune from the mandates. Biden just exempted truckers from it even though many companies have over 100 employees. Not sure about the post office anymore.

Thanks for it.

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I’m just watching it now and Max states how Illinois vaccine passport has to go through Experion to get one and how people have to unfreeze their credit for them to get it. That should not be allowed to stand because it opens up people to possible fraud. Good gravy!

It’s another way for billionaires to skim money from people like PayPal and eBay. But who gave the credit reporting places permission to have all our important information?

Worth a watch.

Also remember that Biden has a new law saying that if you question the government you are a domestic terrorist. Are the FEMA camps still considered CT?

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HuffPost has a hit piece on Rogers who has recovered from the Rona for telling his teammates that he had been vaccinated. lol..if he got the childhood ones he was. Besides he was tested daily for it so why the outrage? People either believe that 'vaccines' work or they do not. But since when has it been okay for the public to know or talk about others medical history? SNL also did a show on him. Yeah how funny. Not.

It used to be verboten to ask people about their health issues. I want to go back to that.

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But of course…

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The last tweet was of big bird taking off his head and seeing Gates.

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I reported on this almost a year ago when one small country said they had revised their deaths FROM Covid and that most deaths were WITH Covid. I even posted this video in a follow up later. But since I suck at math…730,00 divided by…..equals?

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In a free country civil liberties are not only for certain groups.
So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause.
The donor class doesn’t want it, and Americans elect the bribed. So suck it up.

for now, but the buzz is that Gov Newsom suffered a possibly serious injury from his recent Moderna booster shot. I heard about this from an email headline at CHD, apparently citing someone in Sacto in the know, but that site is offline right now/DoS.

This CalGlobe piece says he hasn't had a public appearance since Oct 27 when he got the shot. Two days later he abruptly cancelled his planned trip to the climate meeting in Scotland. Initially the excuse was given as a need to attend to family problems. The updated reason is he decided to stay in Sacto to deal with Covid, budget issues, etc. Article says he might have Guillain-Barré Syndrome from the shot.

Gov Newsom aide denies any adverse reaction.

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/with-newsom-still-mia-rumors-of-adv...

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@wokkamile cites a source close to the governor that he is experiencing symptoms similar to GBS. After he suddenly cancelled his Scotland trip, his office announced he would participate virtually, but that didn't happen either.

Does seem odd that he hasn't been seen in public since Oct 27, nearly 2 weeks ago now when he got the Moderna jab, and the reasons for cancelling Scotland were changed and he then didn't even participate remotely as promised. He has been very aggressive at promoting vaccine mandates, as with the upcoming mandate for all K-12 students in CA to get the vaccines. No word yet too on whether his oldest child, now eligible, has gotten the vaccine.

If it's all a nothing story, it's a pathetically poor job of communications, when the easy thing to do would be to just appear at a brief presser to knock down the rumors.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/gov-gavin-newsom-moderna-boo...

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@wokkamile

Hopefully time will tell if it’s true. If he has been injured but still pushes it on kids that’s very wrong. Also Psaki hasn’t been seen since she said that she tested positive for it last week. I’m seeing lots of people saying that they have it even though they were fully jabbed. Of course others say that if they hadn’t it could have been worse. Sure. Tell that to Powell… he either died from it anyway or his other illnesses did him in.

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In a free country civil liberties are not only for certain groups.
So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause.
The donor class doesn’t want it, and Americans elect the bribed. So suck it up.

I understand why you may not watch this.
But Jimmy Dore is a liar, and there is proof.

https://youtu.be/3FiJguEChRg

And there is proof that he can't read an article

https://youtu.be/mJUC1d5ToKU

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Jimmy Dore uses a report from Sept 28, 2021 in his show. The hit piece you linked tried to show Jimmy Dore had failed to include "PREVIOUS zero-tolerance policy" so he was lying. The truth is that those policies had NOT been substantially lifted and were still in effect. Jimmy was not lying. The gist of his report was that the fucking vaccines were not working in one of the most dosed countries in the world.

Look at what is currently occurring. Only 7 foreign cases.

COVID death toll in Singapore crosses 500 as 14 more die; 2,470 new cases
Mon, 8 November 2021

SINGAPORE — The Ministry of Health (MOH) on Monday (8 November) confirmed 2,470 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore – bringing the country's total case count to 220,803 – as well as 14 deaths due to the disease.

Monday marks the 50th day in a row with fatalities from COVID-19 reported in Singapore, with 95 people having succumbed to it so far this month.

It is also the second day in a row where the city-state reported over 2,000 cases.

The 498th to 511th fatalities here were aged between 56 and 98. All of them had various underlying medical conditions.

Among Monday's new cases, 2,463 are local – 2,307 are in the community while 156 are dormitory residents. The remaining seven cases are imported.

Among the community cases are 425 cases who are aged 60 years and above, the MOH said.

The ratio of community cases for the past week over the week before is 0.84, up from Sunday's 0.81. This is the sixth day in a row that the figure was reported to be below one by authorities.

Five active COVID-19 clusters are being closely monitored in Singapore, of which almost all are nursing or welfare homes.

Of the listed clusters, the highest number of seven new cases was added to the cluster at the Institute of Mental Health The cluster, the largest of the five, has 397 cases – 371 patients and 26 staff members.

Four new cases were added to the cluster at MWS Nursing Home's Yew Tee branch, totalling 14 infections among residents. Three new cases were also added to the cluster at Acacia Home, totalling 44 infections.

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The other hit piece can also be deconstructed. Jimmy Dore was specifically speaking about sub-Saharan Africa and he was correct. BTW, Chomsky HAS turned into a senile asshat.

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Jimmy Dore uses a report from Sept 28, 2021 in his show. The hit piece you linked tried to show Jimmy Dore had failed to include "PREVIOUS zero-tolerance policy" so he was lying. The truth is that those policies had NOT been substantially lifted and were still in effect. Jimmy was not lying.

Your response disturbs me. The video clearly shows that Jimmy re-wrote the article.
Even if everything you just said is correct, it wouldn't change the fact that Jimmy re-wrote the article to make it say something that it didn't say.
And that is lying by definition. I really think that you need to reconsider this reply. You're better than this.

The other hit piece can also be deconstructed. Jimmy Dore was specifically speaking about sub-Saharan Africa and he was correct.

No, he wasn't. He was talking about the Global South. He specifically said the Global South. Plus the article put a whole lot more nuance on the story than Jimmy let on.

Jimmy has changed. I've been seeing it for a while now.

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@gjohnsit
COMMUNITY MEASURES FROM 27 SEPTEMBER 2021 ONWARDS

If anything, the government in Singapore TIGHTENED the regulations after September 27. The increase in cases were not from relaxing PREVIOUS regulations.

Like Seder, you are playing a game of semantics.

South America (as part of the Global South) has had access to vaccines, both manufacturing and purchasing. The problem is having the cash to do it with. 32 countries in the region are expected to reach the WHO’s target of 40% vaccination coverage by the end of 2021. India is the same as they produce their own vaccines. So one could say Chomsky was in error. It is corporate greed that is the problem.

But, in Africa there remains considerable vaccine hesitancy. As you can see in the following from the WHO, it was vaccine safety that overrode availability.

Africa Has a History of Vaccine Hesitancy but Also of Solutions to It
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Tackling vaccine hesitancy

According to the WHO, vaccine hesitancy is influenced by factors such as complacency, convenience and confidence. These are some of the main reported worries with the COVID-19 vaccine in Africa. In the GeoPoll survey, the two main concerns raised were its safety (35%) and availability (27%).
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Asshole Seder and his cohort rants about Dore are hard to listen to. He was also wrong about Gates. The result of Gates switch was that the pro GMO corporation, anti-Muslim Modi got to produce vaccines in India (which is a major part of the Global South) then tried to outlaw inexpensive Ivermectin which had been proven effective in Uttar Pradesh.

BTW, why don't they respond to the following from Jimmy Door instead of playing their word games?

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I'll grant that much. Which is why I'll never recommend him.
But he's also smarter than Jimmy.

No, Sedar isn't playing semantics.
Either Jimmy changed the wording or he didn't. He did.
That point trumps any other fact that you can present.

There's no one going to force you to admit that. Certainly not me.
But I am fully aware of what it means to change the wording of an article to show that it says something other than what it actually says.
It changes journalism to propaganda. Even if you're right about things in general, it's still propaganda.

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@gjohnsit
Sedar was playing semantics. He tried to insinuate that the only reason Singapore had more cases was because they had RELAXED the rules which caused more infections. Dore's point is that despite increasing vaccination rate, cases went up. This proved that the vaccines are not completely effective in stemming contagion nor infection rates. We've seen this in many countries, including the US and UK.

Dore got it right. Seder got it wrong.

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So be it.

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