California: Over 1.3 Million votes yet to be counted.
Wow! Well, this is going to make the final margin a lot closer. Apparently CA has 30 days to count the votes.
From Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n84nb/la_county_r...
So far we know for just 5 counties in CA that need to count provisional ballots
570,000 ballots to be counted in LA County
285,000 in San Diego County
95,000 in San Bernadino County
128,415 in Riverside County
245,070 in Orange County (58,000 VBM received in mail, 110,500 VBM turned in at polls, 61,370 provisionals; that totals 229,870, but that's all the info on the website)
Running total: 1,323,485
Follow the reddit link for links to official numbers.
These numbers are combinations of VBM received in mail, VBM turned in at polls; and Provisional.
LA County had 240,000+ provisional.
Comments
WILL these votes
be counted? I wonder....
"Stand Up! Keep Fighting!" - Paul Wellstone
Yes. Apparently so.
It's true right now like it was back then. The old devils are at it again. When I say devil you know who I mean these animals in the dark malicious politicians with nefarious schemes charlatans and crooked cops. - 'Old Devils' William Elliot Whitmore
Boy, I sure hope so!!
Do you know anything about the counting procedure? Will it be done in time to make any sort of difference? I can't help it.....I just continue to cling to tiny shreds of hope.
"Stand Up! Keep Fighting!" - Paul Wellstone
This is what somebody quoted on Reddit
I have read similar stuff on the LA County site.
It's true right now like it was back then. The old devils are at it again. When I say devil you know who I mean these animals in the dark malicious politicians with nefarious schemes charlatans and crooked cops. - 'Old Devils' William Elliot Whitmore
Holy Poop
That 285,000 for San Diego is more than voted for Her and Bernie combined (about 250K).
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine. -- Jeff Spicoli
These numbers also include other parties
but one would have to think its mostly dems. One would have to imagine the provisionals would go strongly to Bernie. I hope the VBMs would favor him as well. I'm not sure if its enough for the win but it should make it a lot closer. Although how much more is out there? This is only 5 counties (albeit big ones)
It's true right now like it was back then. The old devils are at it again. When I say devil you know who I mean these animals in the dark malicious politicians with nefarious schemes charlatans and crooked cops. - 'Old Devils' William Elliot Whitmore
wow
all counties will also have the late-arriving mail ballots to wait for.
I saw Steven D's story yesterday with complaints from LA and wondered if it was really a big deal or not; I knew my polling place in NorCal was peaceful. But those are scary numbers of provisionals, I'm just amazed. All of SoCal fucked up badly.
...also still mail in ballots to count once received...
In addition to those from election day to be counted, there remain mail in ballots to count.
Read the whole article here:
http://www.inquisitr.com/3159387/california-primary-millions-of-vote-by-...
Meh, Non-Story... It's Easy to Call with All that Exit Polling.*
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
They cancelled the exit polling
Edit: I'm assuming (rightly or wrongly) that the asterisk means you already know the exit polling was cancelled.
At the Trust Vote - Protecting Our Elections meeting the end of May, they were looking for volunteers and staff to do exit polling on June 7. I haven't heard whether or not they were successful, what the difference was between actual votes and counted votes and/or e-vote machines. They covered past election fraud going back to 2000, too.
TrustVoteDotOrg Lawsuit June 6 [Length: 7:46; excerpt of video Protecting Our Elections on link above.]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IAJ5fAm3Cs]
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
I question the validity of TrustVote lawsuit
I saw that clip up at Cossacks for Sanders on Reddit, but there weren't many comments, and no hullabaloo raised. Today I searched for more information on Bob Fitrakis - his name is associated with HAARP and "chemtrails:"
from: (if link doesn't show up, it's: http://www.rense.com/general20/chem.htm - an article written by Fitrakis)
So I wonder, is this a trustworthy guy?
Anything having to do with Rense is CT BS
He could claim the sky is blue and I would have my doubts just b/c he said it. Bigfoots riding UFO piloted by Elvis kinda stuff.
All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine. -- Jeff Spicoli
I think you're barking up the wrong tree
because "rense.com" reprinted the article.
The link to the Fitrakis story you post goes back to alternet.org, which is far more reputable than Rense. Oddly enough, however, is the fact that the rense link doesn't work on alternet either. Now, in no way is Bob Fitrakis "associated with HAARP and chemtrails", a simple web search probably bears that out unless it goes back to Rense, hehe..... Knowing what we already know about Rense means the page on Rense is what's questionable, not the author. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that Rense.com probably fabricated that bullshit and posted a dead link to alternet. They are in fact a well-known disinfo site.
That happens more than you think out here on these here Internets. The real tell is that the Rense page doesn't read anything like how Fitzrakis writes. Here's a link to some of his actual work. You, dear readers, may be the judge....
Thanks, lunachickie
I so want to believe there is hope that the election results would be brought into question, giving the super delegates a reason to switch to Bernie, but I'm not familiar with Fritakis and couldn't figure out why people didn't get excited about that clip. Sorry I followed the wrong link to find out more about him. Never heard of rense before, and that's what I get for a too simple internet search (and one long, horribly bad day).
Before I read your reply, I looked at another link (from The Nation), and already posted it. I'm not familiar with Joshua Holland, either, but thought the Nation would be more reliable. (?) Thanks for your feedback! I truly want to know how reliable Fritakis is because that clip resonates with my gut feeling and I want so much for it to be true that something can be done.
A rebuttal from Joshua Holland at The Nation
See: http://www.thenation.com/article/if-youre-going-to-accuse-a-democratic-c...
Meh
that doesn't do a lot for me. Right off the bat, we get this:
Here's the thing--SHE never had to take the risk. That's what the DNC is for. Their job was to convince all those small-fry folks at the precinct level that "The RU-wells SAY THUS-AND-SO, and so, no, I can't give you that Democratic ballot that you asked for, because My Precinct Trainer told me to give you this Provisional Ballot, and he/she would NEVER lie to me" (just to give ya one example of how that shit tends to actually work), and boom. Hillary Clinton has plausible deniability.
So that article, unless I missed something else, goes right out the window, because of course Hillary didn't fix the election. For fuck's sake!
OTOH, one thing I don't miss is the disdain the author has for Fitrakis right off the bat...
Fitrakis has been writing about elections and our vote process since at least 2000. He never started, nor does he primarily "live" on "social media". So what was the point of targeting him and a co-writer in particular, again?
Edited note: when I ask these sorts of questions in response to "articles" and "authors", understand that a lot of the time, it's more me asking the authors of said articles than whoever posted it
Risking infamy?
How, when 95% of the mainstream press is in the bag for her?
Oh, Nation, Nation. This old song about you still remains accurate:
[Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Wiki page on Fitrakis
Bob Fitrakis
Fitrakis is trying (with others) to expose voter fraud and stolen elections, not cover them up. They've been at this for a very long time, and that puts them all in the category of 'good guys' in my book. Pointing out the illegal activities that have had world-wide consequences is a dangerous business.
I've known about and/or suspected political corruption for a very long time, but with the advent of the wrongheaded (if not unconstitutional) SCOTUS decision of 12 December 2000 and the resulting attempted cover-ups and media blackout to protect Dumbya, Dickie, et alia, I knew we had rounded a corner to the worst election scandal I'd heard of, and the only thing that still mystifies me is why Gore and Kerry turned into shame-faced Harvey Milquetoasts and let the Bushistas get by with their criminal activities, as well as Congress letting them get by with unconstitutional, illegal, immoral, unethical behavior without even investigating their lies and war crimes. I was horrified and dumbfounded when Obama continued their wars and added war crimes of his own because while I knew he was too naive for the office with his lack of experience, I had hoped he would not so enthusiasticlly fall in line with the Rethug positions and keep the Bushista personnel to continue their lies, war crimes, and then he added a few of his own.
Worse: Corrupt voting practices, fraud, hacked (or pre-programmed) e-voting machines that change voter totals, disenfranchisement of voters, etc., that stole the election in 2000 continued on through '04, '08, '12, and it's affecting our election this year, perhaps the worst I've seen yet because it's so blatantly out in the open and pervasive. They're thumbing their noses at us, daring us to stop them!
The only remaining question for '16 is whether or not We the People will continue to put up with the voter fraud and disenfranchisement, or if we'll contest this election racketeering and allow the lying, warmongering Dem candidate to succeed at it this time, just as the American voters did in 2000, '04, '08, & '12. If the state legislatures don't change their laws, make voting registration easier (and stop listing political affiliation on the registration form which necessitates deadlines for registering and causes problems if there is no open primary) and make paper ballots mandatory to ease the way for recounts, they need to be punished for aiding and abetting in voter fraud and stolen elections. [I'd be in favor of not allowing their voting numbers to be accepted nationwide if they don't change to a verifiable paper ballot. There must be consequences for participation in throwing elections, whether in the primary processes or election day itself.]
Will we FINALLY do something about the known fraud and disenfranchisement this year??? Will we FINALLY change voting practices and get some honest elections for a change..., or put up with the status quo - AGAIN?!?
Haven't we had enough of this bullshit yet?
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960
http://justicegazette.org/bernie-defrauded-in-ca.html
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Sanders Wins CA" (election fraud) - worth a look
http://justicegazette.org/bernie-defrauded-in-ca.html
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti