Both Obamas Speak Out on the Folly of a 'Protest Vote'
Apparently the powers that be in the Democratic Party believe that on balance both of the principle alternative party candidates - namely Gary Johnson and Jill Stein - are picking up support from voters they believe would otherwise be inclined to vote for Hillary Clinton. So now they are rolling out the big guns.
President Barack Obama warned in a radio interview on Wednesday that Americans who vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson or Green Party candidate Jill Stein in November risk putting Donald Trump into the White House, as he sought to blunt momentum for third-party candidates.
“If you don’t vote, that’s a vote for Trump,” Obama said in an interview on the Steve Harvey Morning Show. “If you vote for a third-party candidate who’s got no chance to win, that’s a vote for Trump.”
Meantime, in a campaign appearance for Hillary in Philadelphia today, First Lady Michelle Obama weighed in on the same subject:
[video:https://youtu.be/JejWDmrvaqE]
My, my - don't you just love the smell of desperation in the morning? I'm not sure what it smells like, but it's probably not victory.
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Well, President Obama IS the head of one side of the
duopoly. He's got a lot at stake.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Okay, I'm confused
When did voting for the candidate of your choice, the candidate you ( me, we) think would serve best as POTUS become a "protest" vote?
Was I asleep when this rule was enacted? Possibly. I'm very fond of naps. As I don' think my vote is a "protest" vote, but a vote for the person I think would be the best POTUS, that is who I'm voting for.
Hint, it ain't Her Heiniousness.
A.B.C. = Anybody But Clintons
eta: "what difference does it make now" what the Obama's think? Couldn't resist
Their words, not mine. My only point is that it makes
sense for the Obama's to scold us since our corporate overlords will want to preserve the the fiction that we actually have a choice within the two party system.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Wed, 09/28/2016 - 3:47pm —
Wed, 09/28/2016 - 3:47pm — Caerus
You're protesting the corporate overlord political selection! Stop it at once!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
To Caerus...It happened
about the same time Social Security became an "Entitlement" in the eyes of BOTH parties
All your votes are ours!
Don't you dare steal them from us by voting for somebody else!
Talk about your toxic sense of entitlement....
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Especially the entitlement from Barack
After he screwed us big time when he ran on his Hope and Change platform promising us all kinds of shit and then before he's even in office, he goes back on his word to filibuster the FISA vote!
After he broke the "No more revolving door between lobbyists and Wall Street insiders I knew that he wasn't going to offer us any Changes.
He has killed more people than Bush did, but people aren't upset about it because they aren't American soldiers.
That's what some of his bots at DK told me. He's kept our troops from being killed because he's using drones instead.
Gawd, they can reason out any excuse for him, but what took the case was the diary when Michelle hugged George.
Comment after comment stated that George wasn't that bad a president after all because of"................TRUMP!
Unfuckingbelievable!
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
My husband couldn't hurl enough curse words at Dubya when
the shrub occupied the White House. He hated the guy! But when I showed him the hugging photo recently he was unmoved.. When I stared at my hubby in amazement, he attributed all the crap to those around Dubya. I didn't fight with him over it because he's obviously suffering from Trump terror. Apparently he forgets all the times Bush was "catapulting the propaganda out there."
I will vote at a different time of day than he does so I don't have to fight with him about typing in Jill Stein's name for president.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
All your votes are belong to us!
(taking off every ZIG for Great Justice!)
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Yeah, if the attention isn't
Yeah, if the attention isn't on, and the world doesn't revolve around, the corporate candidates in the two-party trade-off scam, attention will go to things (such as criminal acts) people are supposed to forget about, and how is the global hostile take-over going to work without too many people noticing in time?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I thought the nominee becomes the head of the party?
Either way, Obama will do fine. He has six years of lame duck experience. He passed a HIC (Health Industrical Complex) bill, then joined the Elizabeth Warren No Fucks to Give Speech Club.
Just lost some respect for her
When I was a kid, Republicans used to red scare people, now it's the Democrats. I am getting too damn old for this crap!
Certainly for her math literacy.
Gotta love the arrogance
Notice how Our Queen and Mistress refers to "Hillary's Opponent" (singular), as if Stein and Johnson are so insignificant and lacking in any sort of legitimacy that they don't even merit being respected as authentic candidates.
Dear Ms. Obama: I took Bernie's advice when he told me to ignore him if he should ever tell me who to vote for - I think I will extend the same logic to you and your husband as well.
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Look, I haven't go a quarter million to give
so Hillary can hear me, I haven't got millions to give Bill for a speech or for the Foundation. I cant bundle money from millionaires, or provide a private gulf stream for her travels. She wont mingle with the poor, or the middle class.
She will never listen to a thing I say, she won't hear from anyone like me, and she certainly wont make policy that benefits me.
The only thing I have to redirect this crazy ass country is my vote. I am going to give it a wee nudge in the right direction.
There may be waay more people shoving the other way, but I am going to use my right to vote to push it in a positive direction. It is literally the only way to have a say, and I am not giving that up for someone else's ambition.
Great comment!
This wonderful comment summarizes the entitlement and hubris that the neo-liberals and their chosen standard bearer feel. We small people will never be a part of the so called "meritocracy" but we can still have a voice even if it is not in a private audience with her heinous. Our voice will be greater as we band together. Some of us have the lead the way out of the quagmire that the duopoly has created.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I hope that you're allowed to
I hope that you're allowed to vote, and that it's accurately counted as it was cast, and allowed to count as cast for that person... and so forth...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I see giving my vote to either corporate party as reinforcing
negative behaviors, i.e. crapping all over the 99% while doing the bidding of our corporate overlords.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Nah, she's trying to be a smart politician
A smart politician never mentions the opponent's name unless there's a good reason--every time you do, you're providing free advertising to your opponent. That goes double if your opponent's problem is that she (or he) is unknown. What's Gary Johnson and Jill Stein's problem? Nobody knows who they are.
If Michelle mentions their names on national TV, she's helping them, no matter what she says.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Nah, she's trying to be a smart politician
A smart politician never mentions the opponent's name unless there's a good reason--every time you do, you're providing free advertising to your opponent. That goes double if your opponent's problem is that she (or he) is unknown. What's Gary Johnson and Jill Stein's problem? Nobody knows who they are.
If Michelle mentions their names on national TV, she's helping them, no matter what she says.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Full blown desperation!
WOW! They are starting to panic! Great news! It would be great to ratchet up the third party rhetoric on all social media outlets. Let's get this party started!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I'll supply the popcorn :) n/t
You're right. Just posted about 10 articles, labeled "Desperate"
I would love to spread the idea of desperate Establishment Democrats all over the place. I found my articles by searching for "a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump."
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
I'm still protesting voter registration fraud...
Maybe Michelle should just go cuddle with Georgie again.
Obamas can fuck off. I'm so over them.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Was that the Obamas' way of letting everybody know
that election fraud is A-OK with them?
After all, Hill is the best fraudster, but George W. is the most famous one.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Snuggling up with ...
war criminals and vote stealers is apparently the cool thing to do nowadays. I wonder when that selfie of Michelle cuddling Kim Jong Un is gonna hit Twitter. Oh, wait. Unlike the Obamas and Clintons, the Kim family has minimum standards on who they'll associate with.
I think the President missed an opportunity here
He should have added something like: "So if you happen to know some folks who are plannin' to vote for a third party candidate, you really need to tell 'em to think again."
It's when Obama starts dropping his g's and using the word "folks" that we know that he really, really means it.
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"It's my legacy, folks!"
Because, really, that's what this is all about.
If Hillary doesn't win, the line of succession will be all screwed up.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
That's ALL this is about to the Obamas. They're contemptuous.
To us for presenting something to the American public they had no intention of following through on. And they themselves must be too, of the bumbling, stumbling, painful-to-watch, moribund, lackluster, can't-draw-any-crowds, pathetic, limping campaign of a candidate that has none, less than zero, of the charisma, magnetism and energy of what Obama engendered in '08. They have to be fuming, and more than a little embarrassed. I don't feel sorry for them at all. But I bet they're stinging from how bad she's truly turned out to be, way more than their suspicions.
Bernie would have been the righteous and proper successor, in every way. Could have even given Campaigning Barack a tiny out, with, "we tried but were met with constant obstruction. Bernie's message is a continuation of everything we were trying to fight for." I bet he thinks this in his heart of hearts too. In the big narrative, story board sort of way, we all could say "well, it's symbolically powerful we elected a black president, but now we desperately need the country to move once and for all in a deeply Progressive direction."
It would be outdoor stadiums filled, all over the country, for Bernie right now. Especially as a reaction to Drumpf's over the top clown-boy fascism and idiotic, paranoid rambling. There would be such a strong current of positive and energized support for Bernie coursing throughout the country, as a reaction to the continually abysmal and quite frankly frightening barking of Herr Drumpf's demagogic, puffed up fake patriotism, unchecked bigotry, unrestrained racism and corporatism. Anybody know what that equals? Starts with an "F."
Instead we have to watch the insufferable Hillary hide out, attend private big donor affairs, lie, manipulate and cover up everything about her life (with a compliant media assist) and can count on one hand how many times she's spoken to half-filled high school gyms.
They own this debacle. They made the deal with the devil in '08.
"Her Turn" now. How quaint, like some suburban parents at the kid's playground.
#NeverTrumporHillary
#2016ElectionIsAFraud
#JilNotHill
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Bernie would have mopped the floor with Trump
He would have swatted away the red-baiting and the lies with righteous fury, and campaigned against both parties status quo sellouts. He wouldn't have resorted to begging people to buy his lame-ass book nobody wants and everybody hates. Too bad Bernie became a victim of the Clinton's reverse Midas touch, where everyone they touch turns to s**t.
Hillary is doing what we all expected she'd do after her post-convention bounce, what she's best at: bleeding support. If she can't even beat a Donald Trump, the Clintons ought to be ridden out of Washington on a rail, tarred and feathered.
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Because they wanted to strategize instead of having a fair vote
, because they contrived to get the result they wanted, the stronger candidate was defeated.
If they had just set up the primaries fairly, and went with the objectively stronger candidate, they wouldn't be in this mess.
Instead, they want to cover their bet and double down. The want us to strategize our voat, placing it against our desires for some lesser evil.
Presumptuous.
Why aren't I 50 pts ahead in the polls, you ask?
Jesus Christ. All the tactical grace and linguistic deftness of a George Lucas script.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
George Lucas doesn't deserve that.
George Lucas doesn't deserve that. And I'm not talking the Star Wars series, either.
Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders doesn't deserve being likened to Her Heinous' campaign, much less any of Mr. Lucas' movies.
Come to think about it, I'm beginning to wonder about "The Phone Company" when we can have an "election" like this one.....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You're right
It's more like a James Cameron script.
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Fair enough! LOL
I was thinking of the Phantom Menace: "Are you brain-dead? Now there are two of them!"
Delivered, of course, in a really exaggerated Evil Chinese Villain voice.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
And just as lucrative.
Obama's 'legacy', about which
Obama's 'legacy', about which he's so concerned, will be global corporate law/fascism 'legally' created through 'trade deals' handing over to hostile agencies powers belonging to the people of each country in perpetuity and which are nobody's to give away.
And even without nuclear war-crime disaster, within decades there will be few, if any, to remember this 'legacy'.
You'd think he'd at least have concerns over his own children's/grandchildren's lives - unless their short-term existence depends upon all of this passing... but then they're doomed either way.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
No, that's just his "down home with the people speak".
Whenever he wants to commune with/propagandize/threaten the little people, he drops his Kenyan-Hawaiian-University of Chicago-Harvard diction and brings out his community organizer homey persona. Barack Obama - president because he's the biggest (bestest) liar in the room.
He is a salesman with a product to sell
No idea what his commission is, but that's his job and he is doing it. The whole democratic leadership is sounding like Amway salesmen using everything from guilt to threats to being part of the group to get you to buy.
Hs commission will be book deals
the response to which waste of paper will be about as Killary's latest literary outing. He'll also get a nice job as a "consultant" to Wall Street firms and Too-Big-To-Fail banks. But he better not be walking at night without Secrety Service, lest the police decide he's an uppity N****r and use him for target practice. That would be payback for his total disinterest in unprovoked, racially-inspired police lawlessness. Heck, Barack, you didn't weed this racist curse and it's blossoms are poisonous--great legacy.
He has made ten million while POTUS. Before that, he made
2.5 million from book royalties on books that would have been obscure at best if he had not become a politician on the national scene. And the second book was ghost written to boot.
However, 12.5 million bucks is a bucket of spit compared to what he'll make
influence peddlingconsulting and speaking after he gets out of office, especially if he can convince Michelle to "serve" as secretary of state. Why not? Apparently, being First Lady gives you foreign policy skills.And remember....JESUS was a community organizer, too!
After Obama invented community organizing, of course.
I forgot if Jesus also got to sit on the Annenberg board while he was community organizing, or if he got crucified before anyone nominated him.
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Hey, if it's worth saying, it
Hey, if it's worth saying, it's worth repeating, says the arriving-at-sentient site coding. It loves you, it really loves you!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
That has to be the nicest description of duplicate posts in
message board history.
Since I do so many, please accept my thanks on behalf of all the heavy handed clickers in the world.
Lol, only I rather suspect
Lol, only I rather suspect that it sometimes repeats mine in mockery.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Then, it's far more silly than sentient.
As in "We tortured some folks."
They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore
I have noticed fewer talking heads using "folks" lately.
Thank goodness for small favors.
Okay, that one is a miniscule favor, in the big picture, but I am looking for silver linings wherever I can. I certainly haven't noticed things like putting brakes on global warming, wars or even on serial drone murders, also known as Tuesdays with Obama.
It's not a protest vote
If you're voting for the person who better represents your values.
The Neoliberals just don't understand why the votes they take for granted aren't going to be there this time.
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Voting is a collection of vectors
My vote represents a representative force on the political spectrum. It may not get them elected, but it is a force for your ideals. Movements don't usually succeed overnight, they need time to build, and the most important votes are the early votes that build momentum.
A vote for someone that does not represent you is truly a wasted vote.
Bingo!
It is NOT a protest vote when I vote for Jill Stein. It is me exercising my right to vote and voting my conscience. These people do not get it, do they?
The neo-liberal hubris is not limited to just the Clintons as we now can see.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Oh, they get it. They're just hoping to con YOU.
Never assume an opponent who acts stupid is actually stupid. Especially when that opponent managed to get Harvard Law Review and then get elected the first African American President of the United States (and somehow managing to increase his wealth by ten or so million while "serving" as POTUS).
Trust me, they understand.
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/183207#comment-183207
They hate protests and they
They hate protests and they hate your democracy and freedoms, therefore - stop protesting by voting for your own and the public good and assume the position!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I see what you did there
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
In my state, Hillary Clinton is the protest vote.
I can vote for Jill Stein, try to help her get to 5% nationally and vote for my values. Or I can vote for Clinton, have literally no effect on the Presidential race being in one of the bluest states, and help ensures that our oligarchy stays in tact. I agree, a protest vote is a folly; as such, I doubt I'll ever be voting for a Democrat for President ever again.
In every state, voting for Hillary is a poor use of a vote.
In every state, voting for Hillary is a poor use of a vote.
Oh they are very worried, and
Oh they are very worried, and I suspect that the corporatocracy is more concerned a candidate not of their choosing has a bigger chance this year due to their shenanigans with election fraud to be elected, and Jill is the more scary one as her platform means the end of their pigging out.
Hillary wins = corporate feeding frenzy continues
Trump wins = corporate feeding frenzy continues
Johnson wins = corporate feeding frenzy continues and other bad things
Stein wins = Starvation for some of them as she will cut the insane spending for MIC and other corporates who are killing the rest of us.
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Talk to the hand, Obamas.
Not a Democrat anymore.
And are they even addressing the large numbers of people
who are so disgusted by both candidates they are probably going to sit it out?
Hillary and the Dems went all out gender and identity politics and relying on demographics to pull their bandwagon to the finish line, and consequently alienated everyone else. Aren't they the Inevitable Party? Why are they concerned? I thought they had this in the bag.
You know who's enthused? The people who see Trump as a Change candidate. They literally don't care what he says and does. They probably watched football instead of the debate. They LIKE him for being a troglodyte. Mr. Loosinhouse, who always seems to have his finger on the zeitgeist far better than I do, says there's a whole demographic of male voters who are simply sick to death of political correctness and liberal shtick like "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces" etc. and they LIKE it when Trump is a sexist asshole. It's like their own Id asking for their vote.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
They used Identity Politics as a cudgel
to beat down decent, principled progressives with false charges of racism and sexism. I'll never forget that.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
I had trouble with the argument that voting against
possibly the most privileged WASP woman in the world would be racist, especially since voting against Bernie was never racist or anti-Semitic.
Sorry to be such a doolally!
Hillary ran that talking point based on nothing except
the fact that some famous Black people were willing to repeat it.
It's pathetic that it worked.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Black and not black people are still repeating it.
Only a day or two ago, I heard on MSNBC that, because Hillary is continuing Obama's agenda, she is on the receiving end of racism.
"Agenda" was not the word used, but it some continuation or other. I guess anyone who criticized LBJ was anti-Catholic, then? He literally continued JFK's term!
The convolutions needed to make opposing Hillary racist are doing no one any favors, IMO>
Wed, 09/28/2016 - 11:22pm —
Wed, 09/28/2016 - 11:22pm — HenryWallace
One who felt that
one of her stoogesa public servant who, as Mayor, withheld video evidence of police murder of People of Colour so that such abuses/murders could continue, was fit to retain his office.What's the difference between voting for either of the corporate candidates and voting for Hitler right before the gas ovens were discovered? Seriously - that stage of casual mass-murder of the most expendable is right about here!
Edit: so many people blamed the German people for not stopping the Nazi's - which was not fought en masse by them because they lived in a democracy and 'it can't be happening here!'.
Re-edit: Started to search for an incident where a group of German women banded together to protest their Jewish husbands being taken and successfully retrieving them in Nazi Germany, showing the power of protest even prior to the internet age - found a lot of things I've never seen before, with a lot of sites showing as down, now that Domain names have been privatized by Obama.
Look at the variety of reasons given for a huge proportion of suddenly unavailable sites showing on the (typically scrambled even not using Google) search page - on DuckDuckGo - and these are simply listed in order of appearance until I came across repeat reasons:
Contact Support
German president in Greece, wants to visit Nazi massacre site.
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German Christian woman.
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Sims 3 Murder mystery!
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*****(Don't see how they'd have my address without my going there, but removing the address in case it's mine - no idea.)
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We won't have the internet much longer without a massive effort. If you can, set up alternate methods of contact at least locally - I would hope that at least some people have done so already...
Another edit to add that this further indicates that the US nation wide alert flop may have been preparation for another Black Flag excuse for martial law or as cover for appointing Hillary, FSM knows. Or simply for taking over all communications.
Also, that some years back, a financial newspaper we'd had delivered as a freebie had had an article mentioning a technology developed by, I believe, the Harvard School of Business, on display and looking for sales/investment. (Can't recall which, at the moment, but pretty sure that it was being actively commercialized at that point.)
It involved something which could be incorporated into a film (and was, people were watching one in demonstration at some sort of trade fair/convention) which would convince viewers not only that they believed in something whether they had or not, but always had believed this, using the positive example of exercise being good for health - no idea how it actually worked, although it really just sounded like the Silent Sound tech intended (by some) to be used for positive purposes. But the Silent Sound seemingly doesn't work on everyone and this was presented as though this does. (Advertising, though...)
In any event, have not heard anything on this since and that was back before the HD switch in multiple countries was coordinated. So I have no means of verifying anything regarding that particular application, but suspect that something of the kind would explain a lot, not only in the attitudes of various politicians but of some of the general public who seemingly can't follow logic to a non-corporate-desired conclusion.
But, thought I'd better mention this now, in case I can't later.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Michelle is saying
that Democrats are entitled to your vote.
Therefore, holding back your vote is theft!
Where have I heard such an argument before....
isn't that what slaveowners claimed about runaway slaves?
This is actually creepy.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
And what people said about indentured servants?
I'm not sure about serfs; I think that might have worked differently (though equally badly)
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Indenture had a nominal time limit
and someone who survived to the end of it, but was held over illegally, could sue for their freedom and back pay, and sometimes get it. (There are recorded cases in early Colonial history.)
Serfs were bound to the land, and could be sold with it but not away from it. (It was not an Anglo thing very much - some French, mainly East European/Russian.)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I'm sexist, a protest voter AND a thief?
I am too ashamed to go to the polls to vote for Jill Stein. Guess I'll have to use an absentee ballot.
Ours in Utah will be mail-in now apparently.
I won't even need a bag over my head!
This shit is bananas.
Voting made easy for miscreants like Green voters!
Mail in might reduce last minute "regrets"
If voters are mailing in their votes a week or two in advance, it might reduce that last minute anxiety that makes some change their minds in the booth. It would be interesting to see the data, although separating it from other things (like a tendency to procrastination) might be tricky.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Might also give more time for
Might also give more time for vote-changing/disposal at the other end. The Dem cheating in the primary was appallingly blatant, as is the cover-up for Hillary in all Federal government agencies, including the Justice and State Departments, not just the FBI - have we any real reason to think that the general election will be run any more honestly by either corporate party serving similar corporate/billionaire pay-masters and working together for the corporate coup? I hope that lots of public oversight will be possible and electoral cheating not again left to stand as a done deal...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I can't remember which basket I'm supposed to be in.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
We're all in that fabled handbasket. Guess where it's going.
To Grandma's house, to be
To Grandma's house, to be eaten by wolves? asked little grey Riding-Hoodie?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
We're going to hell in a handbasket, but eaten by
wolves (of Wall Street?) certainly works, too.
Original
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One of the covers I like
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So says the War Criminal in Chief.
I'm not sure they even get it. On the one hand I would assume they're just bullshitting because they know they're the criminals they are, yet they seem so sincere.
But that's how good they really are.
scripted nonsense
If you vote for anyone but our chosen one, it is a protest vote and won't count. Sheesh, we ain't that stupit.
After being stigmatized as Bernie Bros, many of us are simply
too embarrassed to go into public anymore since our racist, sexist, misogynist selves were revealed to the world. Our blinds are closed, our children are home schooled and we have our groceries delivered. If we must go outside our self-exile, it is only late at night, long after the polls have closed. Sad.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
some depressing articles today
more "it's sexist to oppose Hillary because plenty of men have started wars and been crooks and they didn't get criticized".
eh, what?
also "it's a right wing attack to criticize Hillary because right wingers attack Hillary"
These articles mention that some call Hillary a war hawk and "the Monsanto candidate" in passing, but then go on to spend a lot of space on how people criticize her for her wardrobe, as if those are equivalent concerns.
More importantly, did I mention Opie's Beatle movie? It's pretty good. Living through it was better, however.
Sexist??
Phony accusations of sexism are the last refuge of a cornered Clintonite. They're pulling that crap and it's not even October yet?
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The Hill People have been
The Hill People have been quite clear that they don't want my white cissy(as in the new term for "straight") male vote. I'm quite happy to hold them to it.
They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore
Truthy!
I bet Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon were surprised to learn, posthumously, that they are female. I guess their real gender was just another one of Rumsfeld's unknown unknowns. The unknown unknowns bite you on the bottom every time. Must be confusing for Johnson and Nixon offspring, too.
They say thing like this and then wonder how Hillary gets her reputation for dishonesty and why people mock her worn out woman card. Real puzzles, those.
Perhaps we should start a new group:
Sexists for Stein.
Funny, she doesn't look male to me.
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Sorry Obamas
I'll vote for the future, not more of the past.
Think of it as I'd rather go golfing with Jill than with hill.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Mrs Obama
we are LONG past caring what you think about any of this, thanks. We've seen what you do while you say something else, and we want no part of it.
I had already lost respect for Michelle based on what her husband is doing, and here she goes giving up any last shred of credibility for the Clinton's again. Just, no.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
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