The Privilege and Arrogance of the Democratic Elite

More and more I'm seeing the problem of the Hillary Clinton campaign, Democratic establishment, and the Democrats most partisan supporters revolves around two issues:

Lack of Respect and Lack of Self-Reflection

Not just predictable lack of respect for their opponents, but a lack of respect for allies that goes even deeper.
This lack of respect stems from arrogance that is born out of a complete inability for self-reflection.

A good example of this is the woman who claimed that “There’s a special place in hell" for women that don't vote for Hillary, had no problem with being responsible for the deaths of half a million children. She already has a special place reserved for her.
Another example of lack of respect is how President Obama talks to black voters and the “personal insult” if they don't fall into line.

“My name might not be on the ballot, but our progress is on the ballot,” he insisted.
This wasn’t the first time the president has used a Congressional Black Caucus forum to scold black people for insufficient appreciation of his leadership. In 2011, after black lawmakers began criticizing the president’s lack of attention to the economic problems of the underclass, he told the group, “I expect all of you to march with me and press on,” adding that they should “stop complaining, stop grumbling, stop crying.” Some black commentators took umbrage at his tone.
“Funny, isn’t it, how Obama always gets the nerve to say shut up when he’s addressing a friendly audience?” wrote the Washington Post’s Courtland Milloy.

It requires a certain level of privilege to speak to people with legitimate grievances and show them no respect.
This privilege comes most often from those tone-deaf people who are quick to tell you to "check your privilege". This privilege extends to expecting your political support while doing absolutely nothing to deserve it.

Five years later, the lectures continue while progress in the Obama era remains elusive to many blacks, which might explain the lack of black enthusiasm for a Democratic successor. By almost any traditional metric—homeownership, median incomes, labor participation, poverty—blacks are worse off today than they were at the start of Mr. Obama’s first term. The jobless rate for blacks has improved since 2009, but it’s improved even more for whites, which means the racial gap in unemployment has gotten wider.

Remember how Democrats were supposed to be riding a demographic wave to a permanent majority? It was because young people have rejected Republican Party values. Hillary and the Democrats didn't have to do anything to get their votes. Just sit back and watch those Millennials vote 'D', right?

At a time when Americans across the political spectrum are turning against the status quo, Clinton seems to be embracing it. She spent weeks in August wooing millionaire donors in Silicon Valley and Martha’s Vineyard, and has chased endorsements from Bush-era official and war criminals like Henry Kissinger. It’s out of frustration that millennials will register protest votes, not ignorance.

It requires a certain level of arrogance to just expect idealistic young people to give up their values for you. In the long-run those Millennials will fail to become loyal to your party brand, so say goodbye to your Demographic Inevitability.

However, the epitome of this lack of self-reflection and lack of respect is Hillary's 'basket of deplorables' comment (“basket of deplorables…. racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic”) and the liberals rush to defend the comment.
There are two things, implied but unsaid, in that comment.

1. Hillary and Democrats are in a position of judging who is deplorable and who isn't.

On this point, Hillary might be right.

...Hillary’s word choice got me thinking about her and her friends and team.
“Deplorables?” How about Madeline Albright, the noxious woman who championed the mass-murderous bombing of Serbia and told the nation on CBS News that the death of half a million Iraqi children thanks to U.S.-led “economic sanctions” was a “price worth paying” for the advance of U.S. policy goals?
Another gone one is Henry Kissinger. “Among the war profiteers, bankers and industrialists that Mrs. Clinton counts, opportunistically or not, among her friends,” Rob Urie notes, “Henry Kissinger holds a special place in human history. With a laundry list of crimes against humanity to his ‘credit,’ the term deplorable applied to Mr. Kissinger would be a kindness”...
There’s also Hillary’s campaign manager, John Podesta. He’s a legendary ruling-class operative. ...
Tim Kaine, Hillary’s running mate? He’s a financial-sector darling who backed fast-tracking the arch-global corporatist, Wall Street-backed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
What about Robert Rubin, the great Wall Street maestro behind “Clintonomics” and a great friend of Bill and Hill?...
I could go on with Hillary friends and allies but Hillary might want to take a look in the mirror when searching out deplorable Americans. It’s not for nothing that Hillary Clinton is known on Wall Street as “Lady Klynton Kissinger Sachs.”

So when it comes to being deplorable, Hillary knows what she is talking about.

However, the other thing implied but unsaid in Hillary's comment is the key:

2. Democratic voters aren't deplorable.

Specifically, Democratic voters aren't racists.
For instance, let's look at a Slate writerr who rushed to the defense of Hillary's 'basket of deplorables" comment.

In June, Reuters measured the racial attitudes of Clinton, Trump, Ted Cruz, and John Kasich supporters. A significant number of supporters for each candidate voiced negative attitudes about black Americans. But Trump backers stood out in their animus. Nearly 50 percent said blacks were “more violent” than whites; almost as many said that blacks were “more criminal than whites.” More than 40 percent said that blacks were “more rude” than whites, and more than 30 percent said that blacks were “lazier” than whites.

Without a doubt those are some awful numbers. No question about it.
But what the Slate writer doesn't do (and no one who has defended Hillary's comment has done) is tell you what the percentages were for Hillary supporters. Let me tell you what they were.

31 percent of Hillary supporters said blacks were “more violent” than whites.
32 percent of Hillary supporters said blacks were “more criminal than whites.”
30 percent of Hillary supporters said that blacks were “more rude” than whites
25 percent of Hillary supporters said that blacks were “lazier” than whites

So if you were to change Hillary's comment to reflect reality it would be something like this:

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it.
Meanwhile, only a third of my supporters are deplorable racists, sexists, homophobic, xenophobic, and Islamaphobic. Which means I can assume a very tenuous moral high ground and cast the first stone from my glass house, just like Jesus Christ would want me to."

This complete lack of self-awareness is typical of Hillary supporters.

They have no issue with correctly calling out Trump's immigration policies as xenophobic, while not having a single word to say about the xenophobic policies of the current Deporter-in-Chief.

They have no issue with correctly calling out the racist police killings of brown-skinned men on our streets, but can't spare a single word to condemn our racist assassinations of brown-skinned men overseas in our War of Terror.

I believe this is by design. Hillary may have apologized for her basket of deplorables comment, but nothing she says is by mistake. She apologized to Trump supporters, but she practically winked at her own self-unaware supporters while doing so.

We may make sense of this by suggesting that Hillary’s remarks were aimed not at Trump supporters but at progressives. Her purpose is to shame liberal voters who might be willing to consider and discuss the issues that Donald Trump is raising in a rational way. After all, if you speak in favor of Trump because you support some of his ideas, you too may be quickly classified as a “deplorable.” In that case you will be lucky if you have any friends if you are a “progressive.” This applies most acutely to foreign policy where Clinton demonizes Putin as “Hitler” whereas Trump wants to “get along” with him, a policy of détente. If you agree with Trump’s détente, then be very quiet about it. The basket awaits you.
Hillary knows that progressives fear like death itself the racist label – and rightly so given the nature of the racism beast. In fact today no American, other than a handful of obscure, powerless troglodytes, wants that label.
Yes, my dear progressive, this ploy is meant to scare you out of rational thought about issues of war, peace and Empire, which can affect the very survival of human civilization. And the self-same shaming ploy is everywhere to be found in outlets consulted daily by liberals– from the boring NPR to the meandering prose of the NYT and throughout the mainstream media.

Bully, shame, terrify your base. Whatever it takes, as long as it doesn't require respect.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

Something much worse then arrogance...
Hubris comes a bit closer for me.
Mostly - EVIL, greed, sociopaths.

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As I wrote elsewhere recently,

[H]ubris (from Attic Greek ὕβρις) describes a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous over-confidence. In its ancient Greek context, it typically describes behavior that defies the norms of behavior or challenges the gods, and which in turn brings about the downfall, or nemesis, of the perpetrator of hubris.

Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make proud.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

They feel entitled to our votes. Entitled to appropriate whatever label (Progressive, Liberal, Democratic) they choose to, without regard for historical meanings. Entitled to redefine politics into a narrow frame in which the interests of the people are ignored, while the interests of the sponsors are assiduously served with an entitled cloak of invisibility. Entitled to believe that their social wedge issue manipulations are virtuous and good, while the other side's social wedge issue manipulations are duplicitous and cynical.

"Where else are they going to go?" The concentrated essence of Democratic Party entitlement.

This sense of entitlement frees them up to engage in whatever corrupt, anti-populist policy or practice their sponsors wish for, with a clear and untroubled mind. This is how people usually become inured to the evil they do: they simply refuse to see it.

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and continue the Revolution.
Elect Clinton, and the institutional hubris will know no bounds.
DK is an excellent microcosm of this: there is no reasoning with them now. Anything, anything at all is justifiable to get her elected, and nothing is acceptable as criticism. What happens with her in office?
Will anyone oppose when she works to restrict late term abortions? She said herself she is open to it.
How about expanding the war in the middle east? Expanding, no demanding more Charter Schools? "Strengthening" Social Security? Tax "Reform"? TPP?

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we are "totally" fucked, whereas with trump were fucked but there will be "push back" to what he wants to do, so does "totally" outweigh "push back", not in my book.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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Hillary's mandates, as destructive as they be may be , will be cloaked by pragmatism and centrism and bi-partisanship and years of working both sides of the aisles to represent her funders (her true electorate). It will be the "banality of evil" delivered in dribs and drabs as opposed to the wholesale in-your-face-wtf-are you-thinking brand that Trump will deliver. House of Card vs. Game of Thrones

And I think you're right. Trump might finally get people in the streets where they really should be at this stage of the game whereas Hillary will keep the populace sedated as she gives out a Starbucks coupon occasionally while she perpetuates the wealth transfer.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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but these next 4 years will be interesting to put it mildly, neither of the 2 farty candidates have a clue or are even remotely interested in what's happening to the people and the country and if it's possible the bubble she lives in is much bigger than his, therefore I don't fear trump nearly as much as I fear her heinous, she's just plain evil.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

TOP has become like Fox News: a window into the propaganda factory of the enemy.

They defended Obama's kowtowing to criminal banksters after 2008; his early sellout of the public option and drug price negotiation; his refusal to investigate or prosecute the war crimes of the Bush administration; his extrajudicial assassination without trial of a teenaged American citizen in Yemen, who went to look for his father; his numerous attempts to cut Social Security and impose fiscal austerity; his wholehearted defense of the unconstitutional NSA spying program, his unprecedented use of the Espionage Act in silencing government whistleblowers; and on and on and on.

There will be no outrage Her Heinous perpetrates in office that the cult of personality followers over there won't rationalize or excuse. This is entirely inconsequential. What does matter is that in doing so they will be parroting official party propaganda, and that that propaganda will be endlessly amplified by the state-corporate media apparatus. It is a fascist system, and this makes their hysterical warnings about Trump's fascist tendencies particularly unself-aware.

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everything bush**/cheney did UNTIL Obama started doing them. And now with their need to sell out the country to get the first 'woman' elected president (sexist much?), whatever compassion, ethos, dignity, and moral standards that place might have had has pretty much been flushed down the political poop chute.

The death of the 'Democratic' Party all started with the election of this wretched creature's constantly horny predatory husband. And she's worse than he is.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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Is the common rebuttal... Obama didn't get anything done due to republican obstructionism.

True enough. The problem with that rebuttal is that I'm not too concerned about the things Republicans prevented. I'm more concerned with the things he actually did. As we speak, Snowden, Manley, and TPP all come to mind. No Republican made him take the stance he has on Snowden or Manley. No Republican made him the #1 cheerleader for team TPP/TPIP. For that matter, no Republican is making him lie constantly about domestic surveillance, civilian drone casualties, or the extent of our current mideast war.

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

Feel entitled even to rip off the public of multiple countries through their Fundation and their own supporters - pre-election, in order to continue being cheated into the Presidency to predate more freely upon everyone - while not yet even in public office. We're talking blind greedy madness here, whether speaking of the combined planned destruction-for-profit of life on the planet and the planned destruction-for-profit of the concept (edit: of democracy) or the ripping off of her own small donors to help achieve their destruction.

Even outright murderous psychopaths do sometimes give fair warning before the actual kill, don't they? Since they're so much smarter than everyone else, ya know. Smarter than those willing to vote for them, I have to admit.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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where else we can go.

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This privilege comes most often from those tone-deaf people who are quick to tell you to "check your privilege". This privilege extends to expecting your political support while doing absolutely nothing to deserve it.

The entirety of Daily Kos in a nutshell.

Diablo

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Hillary Clinton Campaign Systematically Overcharging Poorest Donors

Hillary Clinton’s campaign is stealing from her poorest supporters by purposefully and repeatedly overcharging them after they make what’s supposed to be a one-time small donation through her official campaign website, multiple sources tell the Observer.

“We get up to a hundred calls a day from Hillary’s low-income supporters complaining about multiple unauthorized charges,” a source, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of job security, from the Wells Fargo fraud department told the Observer. The source claims that the Clinton campaign has been pulling this stunt since Spring of this year. The Hillary for America campaign will overcharge small donors by repeatedly charging small amounts such as $20 to the bankcards of donors who made a one-time donation. However, the Clinton campaign strategically doesn’t overcharge these donors $100 or more because the bank would then be obligated to investigate the fraud.

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“They basically said that they weren’t accepting responsibility for this but they’d remove my mom from the donor list,” he said. Roger is less than happy with the way the Clinton campaign has handled this nightmare for him and his mother. “This is a load of crap!” Mahre said. “The self-righteousness of politicians drives me insane. If you and I did this, we’d be thrown in jail. This is theft, fraud or wire fraud—it’s a federal crime!”

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The New York Times reported in 2007 that Clinton’s first presidential campaign had to refund and subtract hundreds of thousands of dollars from its first-quarter total often because donors’ credit cards were charged twice. Additionally, it was reported that Clinton had to refund a stunning $2.8 million in donations, three times more than the $900K President Barack Obama’s campaign refunded.

Another bank source told the Observer that Clinton’s motivation in purposefully overcharging donors is not only to rake in more money for her campaign but also to inflate her small donor numbers reported to the FEC. “This gives a false impression about how much money Clinton has raised,” the source said. “The money that the bank has refunded would not be reflected in the FEC filings till after the election. This gives off the illusion to the public that her support and the amount she’s raised is much greater than what it is in reality.”

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That Maddie stunt and message plan sure looks gross now, eh?

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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mentioned in this article is apparently tasked with preventing fraud against their cardholders perpetrated by others. These days, that sort of clarification can be important.

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Was reading how this is a common practice of porn sites. Offer a one month fee to try. Then keep charging every month. Almost all people had to cancel their cards. Now it makes sense, charge below a certain amount and no investigation into fraud. (But why pay for porn as there is so much free porn on the internet?)

I tried a web hosting company for one year, after a year my card charged again, and a lot of hassle to get refund as I was dropping their service (lost alot of data). The hosting company had put in an obscure location that the default was to automatically renew each year. I would bet the DNC either did not show or put in some obscure part of the pledge that it was a monthly payment for a year.

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I charged back and they went wild, but Chase upheld me, probably because I charge over $12,000 a year, not because Chase Bank are great guys.

Paypal is even better. When in doubt use Paypal for single purchase. If you don't know them and they don't take Paypal, forget it!

And NEVER agree to let anyone automatically pull from your checking account.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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I agree completely - so great that you have the words to describe the exact amount of awfulness of Clinton's ( and Obama's) attitudes. I especially love that you called out that woman for her ignorant rant on not voting for a woman, not voting for a war criminal. Just detested that statement as it came out of her mouth. The amount of amnesia in this country about our war crimes overseas is appalling. I am afraid that we have a mighty judgement day coming ( and not in a religious sense ). Is it still called American Exceptualism? I no longer want to be that kind of American.

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Can any one here NOT name three 20th century criminal nations that counted themselves as exceptional?

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Fascists/psychopaths believe that they are exceptional - and that everyone else is exceptionally stupid but often subject to manipulation through tactics including flattery. Bring people into the 'in' group or suggest that they could enter it one day and it's amazing what a lot of them will accept...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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I'm deplorable because I think Clinton is a money grubbing, hypocritical, war mongering, lying sack of excrement........I stand and say it with pride, Thank you!

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

If Clintonites are deploring you, that will likely be seen as a badge of honor by most of the deplored. The ranks of whom will by no means be confined to the Right.

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business is good.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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and also harasses by email. Buyer or looker beware!

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my-spam-email-account@hotmail, yahoo, or gmail dot com...

Everyone should have one of those...
You only look at it when you have to...

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"Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Ooooo, I really like the Deplorable Lives Matter one - in black, too! (The colour I most often wear.)

Edit: on a roll here, this time failed to notice missing the caps key... my typo record will be raised even further, enabling me to retain my Typo Queen title forevah!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Darn tootin'! Who'd want to fit the standards of a calculating yet stupid, traitorous psychopathic criminal - one still managing to to be vindictively petty?

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me "Deplorable".

If the Clinton's find me deplorable I must be doing something right.

Screw them and the wall street sponsored limo they rode in on...

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One of my Co workers has it. She offended about 90% of rural Washington state with that. We are in the process of really coming together here across politics, races and religions in the process of fighting some state issues. People who seek to divide no matter the reason are viewed with raised eyebrows.

Heck we are even in negotiations to open the border with BC.

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if you are jailed, you are officially out of the labor pool count. Although, of course, you can still do what amounts to slave labor.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

The largest prison strike in U.S. history is going on right now with hardly a peep from the media.

There may be 20,000 prisoners on strike, but it's impossible to confirm because of the news blackout and denials by many prisons that they are experiencing a strike.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

Hillary did not apologize for saying "basket of deplorables" (twice). She apologized for saying "half".

Ergo, she still stands by characterizing some number of trump supporters as a "basket of deplorables"

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the Washington Post

"For Clinton, attacking Trump may not be enough"

It's full of "you don't say!" material

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-clinton-attacking-trump-may-...

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From the Washington Post article:

Former Sen. Joseph Lieberman (Conn.), the Democratic Party’s 2000 vice presidential nominee, said there is “a yearning for bipartisan cooperation.”

“It’s conventional wisdom today that negativity wins elections, but it might be a really distinguishing factor if she affirmatively said, ‘I’ve got a record that shows I will work across party lines to break the gridlock in Washington, and I’m going to focus on this if I’m elected,’” Lieberman said.

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To LIEberman, "bipartisan" means GOP fascists and "Democratic" "conservatives". No one else need apply.

Connecticut! PLEASE retire this loser before he hurts you more!

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

He is retired, quite decisively. Beaten in a primary by Ned Lamont, ran an Independent campaign and won with the same coalition of corporatist Democrats and conservative Republicans that allowed him to defeat Lowell Weicker in the first place.

Ultimately beaten by Blumenthal (no prize) he has slunk back to the Beltway Centrists who love him because he's always been a traitorous Quisling.

I honestly don't know how much more we can retire him than that. Most Democrats spit at his name (I do too, but I'm a bit left of Democrat). I have no idea what Republicans think since it seldom comes up. I've met him personally and the urgent need to shower has not diminished since.

And I say this as the proud citizen of the State that gave you the Cotton Gin, Triangle Trade, Benedict Arnold (saved our asses at Saratoga I tell you), and would gladly sell you a piece of wood and call it Nutmeg (how do you think we got our name?).

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Of exchanges I had with Lieberman...

They started out pleasant with opposition to his position on issues...
And ended with this is your last term asshole and i can't wait for you to be unemployed...
Connecticut hates you!

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

~John F. Kennedy~
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After a year and a half of running for president, the Democratic nominee has concluded that many Americans still do not have a clear understanding of what motivates her or what she would do as president. So in the campaign’s home stretch, Clinton is trying to reintroduce herself and her ideas to the country.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zrbdayJpP4]

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

Maybe we should all be on her email lists! It seems to work to get those with money to giver her a large chunk of it!

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Yeah, but those with money to make big donations get your/non-millionaire poors rights, money and stuff from her in return for their donations... you wind up ground into the carpet and left with only hemorrhoids and social dis-ease.

Edit: not sure how a lonely bracket got in there, probably because I'm in the wrong income bracket to exist as real for any of The Right People... either that, or I still can't play the violin or type

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

And less time with her high-dollar donors, who presumably have an excellent idea of what motivates her and what she would do as president, she wouldn't have that problem. But then she might have a worse problem: the public might begin to understand what does motivate her and what she would do as president. That would likely be far worse, as she is a notoriously unconvincing liar. One wonders why, with all the practice she's had....

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Like 'look out, she's opening her mouth again!'. OMG. I have known a few. Liars.

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Only the Hillbots would appreciate her lies the rest of us would not be won over...

Besides if she started twitching and went into a seizure at a rally it would probably be game over.
She's better off doing the green screens and body doubles to avoid that...

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Thanks for posting the link! Looks like she's just telegraphed that she'll be immediately going after disability pensions/workers comp... bet that includes veterans.

From the article: (Bolding mine)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-clinton-attacking-trump-may-...

... But she tried to do just that here Wednesday with a speech about what she envisions as an “inclusive economy” in which everyone, including the disabled, has a responsibility to contribute and an opportunity to get ahead. ...

Edited to add URL.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

RantingRooster's picture

I love this guy!

[video:https://youtu.be/zxftc3Ww15k align:center]

Democrats / Republicans, doesn't matter they are all criminals or lackies for the criminal 1%!

[video:https://youtu.be/bd0nwaIIdEU align:center]

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. - Thomas Paine

I would replace "summer solider" and "sunshine patriots" with Limo Liberals and their Cocktail Party progressives along with their country club contributors (the 1%).

It should be clear to everyone, the 1% and their lackies should be arrested, humanity demands it!

I did not serve my country so it could become the land of the debt slaves, home of the chicken shit racists rabid dogs, our police obviously have become.

They let that man DIE (bleed out), it's murder by "refusal to render assistance" pure and simple! I can be jailed in Texas for failure to render assistance, why are the rabid dogs not in jail for the same crime?

Clearly the words etched in stone above the supreme court "Equal Justice Under Law" are BULLSHIT!

The democratic establishment has become the epitome of this 'mentality', just look at our president as example #1.

Just consider....

We have a president that decides on Tuesdays who the heck dies. That's behavior of a Cesar, not an elected president.

We have a president who routinely murders people that are only “suspects” by “meta data”, in foreign countries completely violating any and every treaty, international law, conventions and even our own god damn military rule book of fricking war!

Chelsea Manning is rotting in prison for exposing war crimes by our troops.

Edward Snowden has to live in another country, because we (American public) all want to kill him for exposing the crimes our government has been carrying out, not only on Americans, but the entire world.

Obama has jailed more whistle blowers than all of our presidents in the history this country, combined! WTF, he's supposed to be a Democrat?

Solution = REVOLUTION (peaceful or not, I don't care anymore!)

RR Diablo

(apologies I am beside myself with rage right now)

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Centaurea's picture

We have a president who fails to use the Department of Justice to investigate and stop the murders of black people by law enforcement. It is well within POTUS authority to use DOJ when people's Constitutional rights are being violated. In fact, I would say POTUS has a duty to do so, especially when that violation of rights is being done on such a massive scale as it is now.

For an example of how a president can use the DOJ, look at JFK and his brother, RFK, who served as his Attorney General. Obama and Lynch are both people of color themselves, yet they are doing absolutely nothing. It boggles the mind.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

That's what they fear. Or is it simpler? There always were, back in the slave days, upper class house slaves who sneered at the "field N___s". In Haiti, the lighter your skin, the higher your status. That too.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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his conversation with Dr. Cornel West to discuss the way in which the black prophetic tradition has been supplanted by black elitism and individualism.

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If only he was president than Obama

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I haven't heard or read a thing about him. Have you?

Yes, I like West a lot.

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Thanks - now I love Tim Black, too! We need more people speaking out like that in freaking politics because this will not be stopped until it is stopped- and both the Dem and Republican candidates are fine with it.

The US is a fascist police state and it's hard to see how anyone could miss it - although, on the other hand, many Germans certainly did, until it was too late for them to stop it, the last time a military/corporate global take-over was attempted by psychopaths within a modern democracy.

But the murder was with the shooting of a man for Breathing While Black - the calculated callousness and cruelty of allowing him to bleed out should be an additional and separate charge.

Going to repeat-post this, in case anyone missed it: http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/terence-crutcher-justice/?sp_ref=23111...

I Bern for justice and democracy within democracies...

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

riverlover's picture

but I understand. It is not comfortable to look anarchy in the face. Ripping boxes out of stopped trucks and burning them is not good, upsets the truckers, I am sorry. But a major statement got made. People did that, we can, too. General strike? No one has figured out a way? There it is. Without burning the contents of trucks works for me.

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I'd personally love to see more shut downs of business as usual. Nothing else has worked. We haven't even come close to what folks in the Midwest were doing to protest the ransacking of their livelihoods by Wall St speculators (i.e. shutting down highways, which were lined with armed farmers).

Read Mary Heaton Vorse's vivid account "Rebellion in the Cornbelt" from Harper's Magazine, Dec 1932, for just one story.

Suddenly the papers were filled with accounts of highway picketing by farmers around Sioux City. A Farm- ers' Holiday Association had been organized by one Milo Reno, and the farmers were to refuse to bring food to market for thirty days or "until the cost of production had been obtained."

"We have issued an ultimatum to the other groups of society," they pro- claimed. "If you continue to confis- cate our property and demand that we feed your stomachs and clothe your bodies we will refuse to function. We don't ask people to make implements, cloth, or houses at the price of degra- dation, bankruptcy, dissolution, and despair."

Reno, their first leader, was crying to them, "Agriculture as we know it has come to the parting of the ways. We will soon have no individually owned and operated farms. We have come to the place where you must practice what every other group does- strike! Or else you are not going to possess your homes."

This is literally true. In no group of farmers can you find anyone who is secure, and this is what has brought the farmers out to the roads and into action. They are not interested in a back-to-the-land movement. What they are interested in is a keep-on-the-land movement. They discovered at once that this had brought them more notice from press and legislature than all their desperate years of peaceful organization.

The strike around Sioux City soon ceased to be a local matter. It jumped the Missouri River and crossed the Big Sioux. Roads were picketed in South Dakota and Nebraska as well as in Iowa. Soon Minnesota followed suit, and her farmers picketed her roads. North Dakota organized. Down in Georgia farmers dumped milk on the highway. For a few days the milk supply of New York City was menaced. Farmers in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, organized, and potato farmers in Long Island raised the price of potatoes by a "holiday." This banding together of farmers for mutual protection is going on every- where, but the center of this disturbance is still Iowa and the neighboring States....

In ordinary strikes there is a concrete organization to combat. The worker is fighting the owners of a certain mine or mill. The picketing farmers have no such definite enemy. It is almost as if they were picketing the depression itself. They are organizing against ruinous prices, with foreclosure and bankruptcy as their enemies.

Highway No. 20, leading to Sioux City, has been the scene of some of the sharpest clashes between deputies and farmers. It has won itself the proud name of "Bunker Hill 20." On the' night we visited No. 20 a score of men were sitting round a campfire. A boy was sprawled out on an automobile cushion asleep. Everyone was in overalls. Their sunburned faces shone red in the firelight.

A lamp in a smaller tent glowed in the darkness. A trestle table stood near at hand. The Ladies' Aid bring substantial meals to the picketers. The irregular circle round the fire, the high moonlit poplar trees, the lighted tent were like a stage set for a play. There was an air of immense earnestness about the farmers. They had been swung completely out of their usual orbit, but they are absolutely sure of the righteousness of their cause. An old man with white mustache said:

"They say blockading the highway's illegal," I says, 'seems to me there was a Tea-party in Boston that was illegal too. What about destroying property in Boston Harbor when our country was started?'" He sets the note of the evening.

"If we farmers go down bankrupt," says one of the younger men. "everything in this country goes down. If we get enough to live on, everybody's going to work again."

"When we can't buy," says another, "there can't be any prosperity. We ain't been buying nothing, not for four years."

I'd also have a look at "The Strike" by Tillie Lerner, and "Beckerstown:1932. An American Town Faces the Depression."

But to really gets a sense of the climate of the times, "Are We Going To Have A Revolution?" by George Soule is a really clear-eyed sobering look at just how close, literally, that was to becoming fait accompli.

We don't teach this history. But there were a lot of folks radicalized by their epoch, to stand in solidarity to fight the ruling class together.

Some people are bound to get upset in a revolution.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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But I believe that an actual general strike would be a violation of federal law. But I'm no lawyer, and certainly not capable of comprehending the re-re-interpretations of decades old laws.

I suspect that a true general strike would result in nationwide Martial Law, legal or not, much as the British govt had planned during the miners' strike.

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There's a quote somewhere to the effect of, that the relation between the amount of laws a country has on its books and the amount of freedom its citizens have is inverse.

I've been re-reading a book on the great radical lawyer/advocate William Kunstler, piqued by the 50th anniversary last week of the Attica Prison Uprising. He called the law in America, of which he interacted with in some of the most celebrated cases through four decades, various things, including "all a living lie."

He said U.S. Law was a "terroristic device," and that the real purpose, particularly of criminal law, "is the protection of the haves and their possessions from the the have-nots,' advising students that it was the state's control mechanism. "The first step toward fascism in the United States will be 'law and order.'"

As for judges, he said they are "creatures of the Establishment. They do what's politically correct for them. The worst of them are mean spirited, racist bastards. As for the Constitution, they probably violate it more than any branch of government."

His philosophy was, even if he lost, it was important to shame the system, show how decrepit it really is and to use the proceedings to educate the public.

Ultimately Kunstler believed that essential justice could not be obtained through the courts, but "by pressure of people in the streets, outside courthouses...power yield only to power."

In my view there's far too many lawyers in this over-litigious society. The legal system has been hijacked to stymie any semblance of true justice because the corporations and oligarchs just fill the court with frivolous suits designed to gum up the works and ultimately win wars of attrition against people of lesser means. The whole legal system is atrocious as far as I can see. Batteries of lawyers are now routine for every lobbying firm, corporation and insurance company to defeat the meager team of government or public defendants. It's also become routine for people to be pressured into accept plea bargains by the courts. Economic Terrorist banks are encouraged to pay out settlements without accepting any wrongdoing. What justice system. What laws?

It's become pretty evident to me that it's only gotten worse, and that the law is not what we thought it might be.

If it's martial law the PTB are thinking about then it's up to ordinary people to delegitimize its authority, as Kunstler would have.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Milton Friedman was one of the key economists that built neo liberal economics. One of their test beds was Chile. The new leftists government did the unpardonable act, nationalizing American companies, so it had to be stopped before leftists ideas and anti American positions spread wider in Latin America. Henry Kissinger was deeply involved in the coup in Chile.

A top aid to the leader in Chile, an economist, was arrested and released and came to the US. He wrote about the coup, murder, etc. in an article in The Nation. 40 years ago this week he was assassinated with a car bomb in the DC area.

He went further still, arguing that Friedman, the famed US economist who served as “the intellectual architect and unofficial adviser for the team of economists now running the Chilean economy,” shared responsibility for Pinochet’s crimes. (Friedman’s name comes up in the essay 19 times.)

Letelier dismissed Friedman’s claim that urging Pinochet to introduce economic “shock treatment” (as the Chicago economist put it at the time) was merely “technical” advice, unrelated to the human-rights abuses. On the contrary, Letelier insisted that Pinochet’s political violence was what made his economic violence possible. Indeed, only by murdering and imprisoning left leaders, and by terrorizing the wider society, could Pinochet force the same nation that had democratically elected Allende a few years earlier to accept this savage clawback of social gains. As the late Uruguayan writer Eduardo Galeano would put it a decade later: “How can this inequality be maintained if not through jolts of electric shock?”

Letelier’s essay was so bold and persuasive that 
it had an immediate impact, provoking debate and defensive responses. Yet much of why we’re still reading it today has to do with what happened next. On September 21, 1976, less than one month after the article’s publication, Letelier was murdered—assassinated in a car bombing in the embassy district of Washington, DC. His 25-year-old IPS colleague Ronni Moffitt was in the car and also died in the attack, which took place exactly 40 years ago this week.Letelier’s essay was so bold and persuasive that 
it had an immediate impact, provoking debate and defensive responses. Yet much of why we’re still reading it today has to do with what happened next. On September 21, 1976, less than one month after the article’s publication, Letelier was murdered—assassinated in a car bombing in the embassy district of Washington, DC. His 25-year-old IPS colleague Ronni Moffitt was in the car and also died in the attack, which took place exactly 40 years ago this week.

Recent documents show that Pinochet himself ordered the attack.

To reread Letelier 40 years later is to be reminded of how much—and how little—has changed. Chile is led today by a center-left government headed by Michelle Bachelet, herself a survivor of Pinochet’s torture camps. But in other Latin American nations—from Brazil to Honduras—popular democratic victories are once again under siege.

Other topics are discussed such as rise of prisons in US

40 Years Ago, This Chilean Exile Warned Us About the Shock Doctrine. Then He Was Assassinated. Orlando Letelier’s 1976 Nation essay is still essential reading.

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fascinating. I was in high school at the time. I never read anything about this, it never came up in "social studies". Everyone was obsessed with Watergate about then, IIRC.

The things our government has been up to. And the compliance of the MSM. This crap has been going on far too long.

From the linked article, I followed a link to the M4BL. Also a fascinating read, recognizing the link between police violence and economic violence. https://policy.m4bl.org/about/

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I was in college at the time and playing trombone in the marching band. The band was unconventional: sport coats instead of uniforms; very limited marching; "shows" that consisted of forming a word on the field and playing a song, then a gun shot which was our signal to "jump" to a new word and play another song.

After the coup, we performed "The Chile Show" at the halftime of one of the big rivalry games. I don't remember all of it, but it had plenty of mentions of Kissinger. The ending, however, I remember quite well. The narrator said over the sound system, "Now we know who really runs Chile." We formed "CIA" on the field as we played our college's "fight song." While we played the song, we "morphed" from "CIA" into "ITT"--about as complicated a manuveur as we could manage. We ended by forming "CASTRO" on the field and playing, "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."

The graduate resident in our dorm that year had just come back from Chile and had many friends there. He was frantic, then despondent. It was a terrible thing.

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Weren't we also still in Vietnam at that time? We were more protected in high school, I guess. And maybe because we were in a relatively small town, no travelers.

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It was a big day when the lottery numbers were announced. I had 331, but a roommate was in the 80s. He was called to a physical but never drafted.

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It requires a certain level of privilege to speak to people with legitimate grievances and show them no respect the middle finger.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

They say if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. If only there was a good dog that we could vote for instead of these awful major-party presidential candidates! Who are not our friends.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

I think he was referring to Nixon's "Checkers" speech but I'm not sure.

EDIT: I think so because I remember the quote as "If you're looking for a friend in Washington, get a Spaniel dog."

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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So to summarize this post

The current Emperor has no clothes. The "presumptive" Empress has no clothes, nor do many of her "deplorable" shills.

The opposing presumptive God-Emperor Donald not only has no clothes but he insists on making sure every camera he can find records this fact.

Is it any wonder that no one wants to vote for elderly nudists who insist on parading around in public?

But more seriously, I never understood in 2008 why HRC thought it was OK to insult voters, in a primary of all places.

A good politician does not insult voters they may need later. Politicians are supposed to be salesmen selling themselves. Salesmen who insult their customers do not do well--unless they work for a cable company and there is NO choice.

And that sums up the problem. These folks can treat voters/customers like so much crap and insult them because they think the voters have "no choice"

And perhaps, this time around we don't. Neither Greens nor Libertarians are going to win. This time.

But there will be a next time. The revolution is coming!

We shall depose all the naked Emperors, Empresses and their sycophantic shills!

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"I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it. "
-Niccolo Machiavelli

"Sorry Hillary"
-TheJerry

k9disc's picture

There's a huge difference.

The customer is always right. The voter is to be courted and served.

The consumer?

Who cares?

If you ain't ponying up many thousands you're not a customer of either major American political party. You are a political consumer, and you'll take what they give you.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

k9disc's picture

a marketing discussion about "retail" politics.

Makes it sound even more gross to me...

"What are the voters buying with Drumpf?" What's in the basket that voters are shopping for?

"Perhaps if we talked in terms of shopping people would get it. People understand shopping..."

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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is such strange phraseology. The second I heard it, it struck me as a Peggy Noonanism and I wondered if she was free-lancing for HRC.

My second thought was that I thought Trump voters should sing it to the tune of "We're Despicable" from Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

sojourns's picture

Where are my MINIONS!

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

SnappleBC's picture

OK... maybe 16 moons ago... a year and a half... when I started getting seriously involved in politics I found myself at GOS. It didn't take me long to realize an important fact. Those demographics were never in favor of Democrats. They were in favor of liberalism. Those are not one and the same thing despite what Democrats may think.

As the Democratic party abandons liberalism those demographics will work against them almost as strongly as Republicans.

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

Bollox Ref's picture

than they do with their fellow countrymen/citizens

Look at Tony Blair swanning around the world, making millions.

They really have no clue how ordinary people live, given the party/establishment/security bubbles they live in.

Indeed, when they do meet average slobs, they make a big deal of it, and get it on film. Which we are constantly bombarded with around elections.

(Edited)

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

told the Bernie supporters to "go to hell, we want to win over Trump supporters. America is a (racist) right nation!"
Really, this is like telling your wife you're divorcing her for for "next year's model", then calling next year's model "a golddigging, homewrecking slut."

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On to Biden since 1973

Pricknick's picture

is a new one to me. I likey.
Maybe she can join Andrea Mitchell in a vodka swilling contest.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

when Swillie Brown was mayor of San Francisco. He was following a city tradition started by Diane Feinswine - fucking over taxi drivers so that her co-conspirators in the taxi companies could continue to share the profits with her. Taxi drivers also didn't appreciate the deregulation movement of the late 70s, so a local politician who favored deregulating the taxi industry found himself with the dubious honor of having people's dogs being let out to "go take a Quentin Crap". Working class humor at it's finest.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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Why think they'd respect anybody else?

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Shahryar's picture

an article at HuffPo suggests there are ways that Hillary can win, constituencies she needs to shore up. Check this out and see if you can spot the incredible dumbness.

3. We must get all the Bernie voters we can get. Admittedly, there are some Bernie bros who will reject Bernie’s plea, and almost every other progressive leader’s plea, to vote for Hillary.

That'll work!

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of 'Hi! I am a BernieBro!' pins. Or Tees. I would buy one.

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Or they don't feel that it's necessary to try.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

The die is cast.

At best, the next President will preside over the continued decline of the country. At worst, the Great Unraveling will arrive.

Now I don't count the Clintons among the sane, and HRC is clearly willing to sacrifice everything to sit in that Oval Office, but there are a lot of powerful Democrats who are happy to see the party become more and more impotent.

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I'd think it's most likely the latter case - after all, they have huge donors among TPTB ensuring that the votes will be there for them whether the voters are or not. It's only necessary to make the 'win' look possible to avoid riots by conning/brow-beating enough people to say they might/will vote for them and the rest is all rigg-able.

Lol, my recs aren't showing again, this last retry again came up with this: 0 users have voted, including you. This is rather like playing one of those slot machines, something I've never bothered with...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

insisting they know better than I do what is good for me.
Hence, they can all kiss my ass.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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Hillary Clinton is and always has been a member of and advocate for the predator class, those who prosper in direct proportion to how much the lesser classes suffer. From Walmart to "super predators" to welfare "reform" to NAFTA and TPP and multiple wars of choice against brown people, her career has been one long exercise in reverse Robin Hood-ism, taking from the have-nots and have-littles to heap even more lucre on the plates of the haves and have-mores.

Would a lioness express humility and compassion to a zebra or wildebeest? No, she'd be much too busy trying to rip its throat out. That is the same dynamic that governs Hillary's relationship with what she considers the peasantry, which is basically the entire undeveloped world along with the bottom 90% of Americans. Our misery, loss and powerlessness are the benchmarks of her success.

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I stand in awe of your ability to nail it so accurately to the wall. But what I personally prefer to term the parasite class should bear in mind that killing off their hosts leaves them nothing to feed off of - and that destroying the global life-support system will adversely affect them, as well, in the reality they've grown so adept at ignoring.

(Also love your Jill Stein quote, btw.)

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They know that doing what scorpions do will kill the frogs under them and drown themselves also, but they can't stop themselves. It's their nature.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

It is very clear and well written and it makes some excellent and necessary points. Thank you !

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EJF

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