This Clinton mystery is getting out of hand

This is interesting. Some are saying that Hillary's rally in Greensboro was a fake, done on a green screen. The most extensive analysis is here (long, 30 mins)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzFglNq0Thc
Though he gets some stuff wrong. For instance he questions the placement and size of the flag on one shot, but it's from an angle and the flag seen is not the large on on the wall, it is one that is in the corner of the room. The same explanation for the small group of supporters. The guy who casts a shadow on the flag could possibly be 40 feet behind Mrs. Clinton if the camera was at the back of the room, he wouldn't seem that much smaller than someone in the 'foreground' (but still a long way away from the camera) of the shot.

Now with the criticisms out of the way, something does seem hincky here, as best illustrated in this 3 min video where dozens of cameras held aloft don't show any flags in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCP3HIhQgLI
Neither do they show Hillary as she walks past them.

But what I find really interesting, and it pops the tinfoil off my head with a puff of smoke, is this still image of the video stream, where some artifacts appeared in the video. We expect artifacts in web video, but what I would like someone to please explain to me is how you could get artifacts of the background showing through FSC?
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sensetolisten's picture

Okay, so now people are saying that she didn't collapse due to "illness" but rather, that what we are seeing is her resisting arrest:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBh3yIIf-JE]

Now, some people are saying that the lady holding Hillary is her Doctor, Dr. Lisa R. Bardack, and not an agent, and I don't really know from the video and that really is irrelevant, so be that as it may, I have to be honest, the big black bald guy holding her left arm and the bald white guy holding her right arm, don't appear to be holding a VIP Dignitary who is ill, they do appear to be throwing a perp in a van who is resisting, but who is weak, so they lift her off her feet, at which point, she goes limp. I mean, if you lift a lady her age and her weight off her feet by her arm pits, it's gonna hurt, and she will probably go limp from the pain.

Here is a better version of the video to study, but you tell me, because I don't know what to think. But, the more times I watch this video (and I've watched it 4 times now), the more I think it is an arrest. Doesn't it look like Hillary's arms are being held behind her back?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPyOwDR-rJg]

And who is that guy video taping Hillary with his cell phone? And why aren't the Secret Service concerned with him? They must know him.

Here are three screen captures, and how it appears to me.

Hillary handcuffed:

STL-HILL_CUFF-01.jpg

Hillary's handcuffs being removed just before they throw the perp into the van:

STL-HILL_CUFF-02.jpg

Handcuff dangling from Hillary's right hand:

STL-HILL_CUFF-03.jpg

I don't know folks, you tell me.

From what I have seen in the comments on this thread, the lady who exited Chelsea's apartment was clearly NOT Hillary. And further, are ANY of the versions of Hillary we have seen since 9/11 the "real" Hillary? Could they all be an actress? And how many "Fake" Hillary's are there? Because, from my research over the past 2 hours, it seems like there are at least 2, and the version we have seen in the media since 9/11 Memorial seems 10 years younger than Hillary. In fact, from my review, most of the versions we have seen over the past 18 months seem 10 years younger than the version of Hillary we saw at the 9/11 Memorial. At this point, I really don't know what to think. The implications of this revelation are staggering, to say the least. And to be honest with you, this would explain so many perplexing actions by Comey and Lynch over the past 3 months. It is almost as if, they were all waiting for this moment to arrest the "real" Hillary as soon as she reappeared.

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I think there was a grain of truth to the ABC news report that she died at Montfiore Medical Center. It is located along the quickest route from midtown to Chappaqua. I think she had a severe episode of whatever is afflicting her at the ceremony and once in her motorcade she made a beeline for home either based on her decision or the fact that the motorcade needed to get rolling ASAP and the destination could be worked out en route. So she's on the way home and then her condition worsened and they had to seek the nearest hospital, or else someone else made that decision around the time the motorcade hit the Bronx. She went code blue that evening and they resuscitated her. In the meantime, the actress pops out of Chelsea's apartment to greet the press who was not allowed to follow Hillary.

Since then it's anyone's guess. I'm leaning toward it being a second double on the plane, but she has a minute long coughing fit. Either that's a great actress or it was really Hillary. One of the videos I've seen lately makes a point that Hillary has very deep laugh lines into her cheeks, what he refers to as the "Joker smile". It's very visible in all the shots from the 9/11 ceremony. It is not visible on the woman who leaves Chelsea's, or the woman on the plane.

So I kind of like the theory that the authorities were waiting for the real Hillary to make an appearance and they nabbed her. But I don't think she'd lock up her feet in a petulant attempt to resist. And the video you posted uses a shot of the hillary double when he says she left the apartment before going to the ceremony.

Technically I don't think what they're doing is illegal, as long as the real Hillary is alive somewhere, even if it's on life support.

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In the last of the still cap photos posted by "sensetolisten" someone has pulled down her knickers to get her ready for a dominatrix convention at Chelsea's place...

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shot by three different people from different angles. This is the first one posted of the three. However, a later one shot from the left gives a better view. Based upon the three different videos I have seen, Hillary Clinton was not arrested, but did experience some sort of medical event.

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I have only seen this one.

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how could he arrest her.

What I mean is--if the Clintons are so powerful they can thumb their nose at the FBI (as well as at the NSA, parts of the Pentagon, etc) over exposing classified information, then how could they be hauled off in a van by the FBI, or whatever spooks were involved?

And, by the way, as much as I hate Hillary Clinton, this kind of thing, if true, would not constitute an "arrest," seeing as how refusing to prosecute somebody or even process them through an actual arrest, but instead putting handcuffs on them and tossing them into a van is not law enforcement, but more along the lines of disappearing someone.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

... And, by the way, as much as I hate Hillary Clinton, this kind of thing, if true, would not constitute an "arrest," seeing as how refusing to prosecute somebody or even process them through an actual arrest, but instead putting handcuffs on them and tossing them into a van is not law enforcement, but more along the lines of disappearing someone.

We probably won't see such things, involving special security of that type, happening on camera until after the Clintons gainfully gain public office.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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apprehension. Perhaps the lizard people were taking her away for reprogramming.

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Might be a simpler explanation; the sim skin to make her look human kinda melts or crumples at times and she needs to have it ironed and properly inflated. So the maids at her daughter's and some other places got a nicer-looking effect than the ones she has chained to the server in her basement? And perhaps there's some chameleon capacity which she absentmindedly failed to monitor in front of the flags at one point?

There, doesn't that seem like a perfectly normal, reassuring explanation showing that the lizard-people don't have to cover any of those human weaknesses? Unlike the Russians. ... Trump? BernieBros? 'The rest of you' ought to cover it, right? Sigh. OK, big guns out - SQUIRREL! Over there!

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you could actually get the President your really want, the real Hillary, who might just represent you well. Who would have thought. May be the solution to all your problems..../s

Freedom of blog speech, the one and only speech and ueber alles too.

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OK, Here is a tutorial of how one AE jockey changes a cell phone screen in HD video... the first few minutes will give you a general idea. Tutorials will say you should have a green screen on the cell phone to change it. That makes life easier, but you can just as well mask anything in a rectangular screen and replace it with anything else in about five minutes. With low def footage all the fine tuning is unnecessary. So, if one wants to change 15 cell phones, that might take a couple hours of goofing.

http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/video-tutorial-cell-phone-tablet-screen-...

I could make Clinton or Trump explode into firework-like embers, or go up in smoke... making them disappear completely would be a piece of cake. The only thing one needs is vid which they contrast strongly with the background. One color keys out the background using multiple color and luminescence masks. Less movement is much easier than more movement. Slow motion easier than fast motion. You cannot mask very well (if at all) if the background is similar in color. Where this gets fun is with dancers, because you can make them seem to float in a dream environment. Like I said, I am a rank amateur who liked to present my kids with a vid of themselves playing hopscotch in front of the Eiffel Tower, if you get my drift.

Other easy effects are cutting, slowing and speeding, blur, add noise, opacity, slight color changes.... I therefore strongly suggest that everyone be very careful of what they are seeing or imagining they are seeing because the only vid or photo you can trust are those you take yourself (or watch your kids take). Original footage can usually be source verified and checked forensically for modifications.

That said we do know certain straight forward facts from raw footage. H. Clinton has fainting spells, dehydration episodes, coughing fits, seizures, blood clots and eyes that don't track. We know she has worn prism and blue anti-seizure glasses.

We know that both major party candidates are just the faces of corporate governance and that the only realistic solution is a non-violent revolution. 3-4% of the population has to be mobilized in mass non-violent protest in such a way that logistically demobilizes the forces of repression.

Frankly, this imaginary Alex in Lalaland stuff, while a bit of good fun, is embarrassing if anyone actually believes it.

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of the video frame.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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Was Bigfoot carrying the body of Paul McCartney under his arm?

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Our village and town are so small that we don't have a village idiot or a town drunk. Nope, we all take turns.

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I could make Clinton or Trump explode into firework-like embers, or go up in smoke... making them disappear completely would be a piece of cake.

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My movie editing equipment is back in Bolivia... but I may be able to together a storyboard on my bare bones el cheapo laptop... although I have a lot of other things more important to do, and I have seen enough imagery of H. (Eech) Clinton on this thread to make me ill for a few weeks into the future. Its lucky I don't have to turn on the sound...

"Everytime I see Eech Clinton I get an allergy." That includes, uncontrollable vomiting, blood shooting out of my eyes, lengthening and sharpening of the incisors, melting of facial flesh and a zombie-like gait. Of course, I live close to Haiti where such things are known to happen... and a beetle drone was flying around the house last week.

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Now that would be one drone strike I could support.

"Center of debate stage is primary, Fire! Fire! Heat!" " Copy VC. Primary engaged with HEAT. On the way... Target is secure. VC Complete."

Yeah, I know, I am a bad person, but I wouldn't shed a single tear...

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A lightening strike somehow seems appropriate...

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millions or others. We do not know that they were anti-seizure glasses.

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millions or others. We do not know that they were anti-seizure glasses.

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Hey, I'm enjoying it!

... I could make Clinton or Trump explode into firework-like embers, or go up in smoke... making them disappear completely would be a piece of cake. ...

And if you could only make both of them disappear, and others like them, and their paymasters and others messing in (and up) public policy around the world, we'd all be able to afford/be let to eat cake!

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Have her sitting on someone's lap, like every other ventriloquist dummy? No, I'm serious, really. If she is indeed still alive (I've seen some things saying that she's concealed in a hospital, dying from sepsis), I would watch, just to see whatever absurd thing they come up with. With the volume turned down, of course.

Parallel universe, like looking through a looking glass to the world beyond. I hope that I live long enough to read books written by her Secret Service agents, once they feel safe enough to write them.

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an earpiece. Easy peasy.

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in the earlobe really hurt without long use.

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My gut tells me they are trying to see if she'll recover in time for the debate. I really can't see how they could let a surrogate debate for her, although half the time they don't answer the question asked, anyway.

After I posted the side-by-side photos on Facebook one of my best friends said I needed help. So I bet him a $50 donation to her campaign that she won't make it to, and through, the debate. Without her funny glasses I think she'll freeze up, and her wandering eye will make people uncomfortable unless she's constantly looking from side to side, that could make them just as uncomfortable.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

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I would like to see a DNA test, fingerprint match, digital voice match, but best of all, Donald Trump holding up a life size picture of the real Hillary and it taking over to her podium on live TV.

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Alternatively, Trump is in on it, a double conspiracy sponsored by Deep State.

How could anyone have guessed a year ago that Sanders nearly pulled it off (or did) and that we would be discussing body doubles and Hillary Clinton together. Punch drunk with Clinton fatigue and over a month left with angry Congress involved. What a ride!

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the developments being discussed on this essay are new to me, as i don't get my news from the msm
all i can think is that these two are the strangest, most disturbing candidates ever seen, and i've been voting since the 60's
hoping something good comes out of it

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And software exists for voice analysis (at least according to LE and FBI, haha there) to see whether there have been several versions of HRC around. Why has this not happened? Hmmm?

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starring Kevin Kline, Sigourney Weaver, and Frank Langella, is the Hollywood scenario of what may be unfolding before our eyes, but with a twist. And I'm sure that Bill saw it, because it was very popular when he was president. In Dave, the president was brain dead and kept on life support in the White House basement. A body double actor (Kevin Kline) who ran an employment agency was recruited to stand in for the president, until his evil, scheming chief of staff (Langella) could "defeat" the "president" after he pretend resigns. Farfetched? Maybe, but I can see Bill Clinton decades later hatching a similar plan to crawl back into the White House for a third (and fourth) term (wink, wink) using a body double "Hillary" for that very purpose. Many voters (not us) are so brain dead themselves, they might just go along with the charade.

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Old Abe put it best: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

What he didn't say was, watch out when they wise up.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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I haven't seen it in years but I remember finding it to be both funny and engaging.

Damn, now I gotta go dig up my DVD's out of whatever box they got stuffed into years ago, lol!

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I may have explored the rabbit hole a bit too far tonight when I came up with this possible explanation of Hillary's physical ailments.

The people of New Guinea call it "Kuru."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/09/06/482952588/when-people-ate...

At first I thought it was a matter of suggestion: NPR recently did a story on Kuru, and then the Internet used that as fodder for a new Urban Legend.

That is, until the symptoms of Kuru were enumerated.

  • Headaches
  • Trouble Standing
  • Trouble Walking (esp. Stairs)
  • Moodiness
  • Incontinence
  • Inability to Speak
  • Difficulty Swallowing
  • Pneumonia

So a little freaky there. This next part is for all you Lizard People fans out there. Why, you may ask, would Hillary have been eating dead flesh?

James Michael Casbolt is perhaps the world's foremost Conspiracy Theorist, and yet his military background gives him just enough credibility to be believable. I think he takes it a bit too far, with this theory of skin-covered cyborgs who feed on human flesh, but a lot of what he says is focused around the pedophelia problem which we all know is very real.

Anyway, I'll leave you with this video that includes an interview with JMC. The best part of the video, however, is the clip from a hologram museum where the holograms fool people just inches away from them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjOdnU6pMgQ

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Too scary at midnight alone in my house.

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When I clicked on the link (using my smartphone), my browser opened the page in "Incognito" or stealth mode. Uh oh. Unknw

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