Wikileaks New Hillary Leak: DNC manipulated news coverage on Nevada caucus
RELEASE: 19,252 emails from the US Democratic National Committee https://t.co/kpFxYDoNyX #Hillary2016 #FeelTheBern pic.twitter.com/Pft8wnOujl
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) July 22, 2016
The WikiLeaks drip is starting.
Of course, we intuitively knew that the NV caucus and uproar about throwing chairs etc, was rigged. But we didn't have proof of the extent of the DNC manipulation until now.
From RT News:
One email indicates that the DNC was in close contact with news websites on articles related to the Democratic Party.
A Real Clear Politics article said that Bernie Sanders supporters causing a lack of unity at the Nevada Democratic Convention.
“This headline needs to be changed,” said Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who serves as Chairperson, or top official, of the DNC.
“We need to push back... Patrice, what happened, DNC had nothing to do with this, right?” Luis Miranda wrote, referring to DNC Director of Party Affairs Patrice Taylor.
Taylor responded saying that the article should be changed the event was run by the state party and the disorder “sounds like internal issues amount Sanders supporters.”
“Walter, please connect with Stewart and get him to push back,” Miranda wrote. The last email on the thread says: “Done. Article has been updated.”
my bold
This is brazen, stunning, direct manipulation of the Fourth Estate.
Updated: Here is link to e-mail message from DWS stating that Mika Brzezinski, from MSNBC should apologize to her for saying that she is unfair and 'should step down'
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11878
Update II: Email showing how DNC worked to manipulate vote in RI primary to benefit Hillary by suppressing vote.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5289
Comments
Who is truly surprised
Brazen? Stunning? Hardly.... at least not to anyone on this site I assume.
The only people that might be surprised by this are the ones who think that words like "reporting" and "journalism" mean anything in today's America.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Of course no one is surprised, but that hardly makes it OK.
The DNC sucks all kinds of shit. This just confirms what we've been saying along, is all.
I miss Colorado.
I never intended to be "surprised", I AM PISSED
this is just blatant.
What are we going to do about this?
What else is there to do?
I work to convince my friends and family that media is wholly and completely unreliable and in this day & age there is simply no substitute for doing your own research. I point out that if the content is about anything political or anything financial then it is an absolute certainty they are being lied to. Typically they tell me I'm nuts so I ask them to drag out their favorite magazine or whatever and find a random political article then I point out the zillion and one errors and omissions in it and ask if they'd like to try again.
It's a laborious process but that's not particularly surprising. It was a laborious process for me to drag myself into the really real world.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
And here I thought Real Clear Politics
was less biased than others.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
You can't browse a list of the emails on wikileaks?
I don't know what to search for.
Any suggestions? With so many emails, there have to be hundreds of subjects discussed. I'm overwhelmed
I searched for "Blumenthal" on wikileaks
Because I didn't know what to search for. Found a series of 'what do we say about the $ & DNC/down ballot recipients.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5246
No
No. The money the state parties are transferring back to the DNC is helping Hillary rig the election and smear Bernie.
Beware the bullshit factories.
List leaked today, search with key words
like a librarian and have fun, shock and awe!!! There could be mining there for days.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Search for anything!! Its endless...
Like this one - my latest favorite from DWS:
Edited: Gah - can't read image: it says "This is a silly story. He isn't going to be president."
Also, if you twitter, use DNCleaks hashtags to find emails people have pulled out.
This election just keeps getting more insane.
Could you edit the image to 800 width or so?
It's a bit too small to read for me unfortunately.
at the end of the image source line when you edit you can just paste in: width="800"
right before the slash and then hit preview (It will auto adjust the height) is an easy way to do it if you are so inclined.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Thanks for the info. Although
Thanks for the info. Although it seems to me more as though the insanity messing with policy, politicians and the elections is just being revealed...
Noticed this, from the 'update 2' link given (below), thereby making it obvious that there was something else going on on top of what is specified in this email. Why else would they be expecting Hillary to outperform the polling and for there to be a concern about complaints being made and a pretense made even of establishing, presumably for deniability purposes, (see? We didn't like it either. snicker) a record of an inquiry made by the Hillary campaign 'even though she's one of ours'?
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5289
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Under ideal circumstances,
the only way that The Fourth Estate will be manipulated is if they agree to it.
They have been agreeing with The $hill, DWS, and the DNC for quite a while, now --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
The 'Fourth Estate' is now a wholly owned property of
corporate America. BOTH literally and figuratively. As my poor Mommy used to say "worthless as tits on a board".
(She sometimes got her metaphors mixed up but this one still works.)
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Worthless as tits on a boar hog is what my mom says lol n/t
I once heard the extension of that one...
I heard somebody told they were even more worthless than tits on a boar - at least those scratch the sow's back while he f***s her...
LMAO!
Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos
worthless
Or... as worthless as a cut dog in a f---ing match.
I grew up on a good German protestant farm where the real fun was learning how to curse from the farm help. Never in front of the ladies, but ...wow, did we learn to swear
Yup. Reporters literally owned by corporate management
with "contracts" you probably need a PhD to go through, unless you're a marquee name (where you don't even bother your own beautiful mind about such trivialities as "contracts"--that's what agents are for these days, is my understanding, but that's for another day...)
It's practically servitude if you work in the newsroom. The unspoken message is "do what you're told and don't make waves". Or even "Write it this way or else you're fired".
Maybe now this makes clearer that the Circuit Court (I forget which one) decision in Akre/Wilson vs New World Communications (that I'm always on about) set the precedent for the corporate power structure in the USA to be able to employ "reporters" to serve their bidding, under the guise of "Employment Law". In other words, journos will do what they're told to do, and write what they're told to write, or they can find another job. Oh, and don't you dare talk about it. You can't blow the whistle on liars upstairs, when their reporters are ordered to alter the news copy to suit the subject's needs even when the edit turns it into a lie.
Because read those emails! Those people all act like reviewing and making changes together--the reporter editing along with the actual subject--constitutes actual journalism. It absolutely does no such thing. Every last one of those on-air people and all the staff that writes their copy, that are taking money to lie to the public, are shameful and disgusting, un-American whores. What journos in America ought to do--assuming any of them give a damn--is start blowing the whistles out loud in tandem.
Somebody better do something (more on that in a minute). Because there it is, right there in the emails. Unless these emails are also made up bullshit, this is what they did: They helped to shape opinion by lying to the public, in collusion with "television network and print media anchors and staff", and then they covered it up. They lied to the public they're supposed to serve.
Stuff we can do: flash mobs? That popped into my head on the cruise home. Gathering to do what, I haven't worked out yet. But we can't even plan it online, you know damn well the eyeballs are keeping an eye out...
media manipulation
Please remember that it was Bill Clinton who enacted the deregulation of the media...they owe the Clinton Dynasty for allowing their monopoly of the media nationwide.
RCP supposedly has a conservative bias....
conservatives and neo libs/cons are both scared shitless by Bernie.
oops...link for comment above..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251133566
OK Jill Stein has to be President
Or at least Gary Johnson. We have to stop Hillary and Trump.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I disagree with the Libertarian stance.
But Johnson doesn't seem to be stupid or a sociopath.
We need Jill Stein. And it's possible. I think Trump will destroy Clinton. He probably will do better than Johnson most of the time. All Jill has to do is beat Trump in a bunch of densely populated states, including red states.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
At least Johnson is for legalizing weed
To help get me through the next 4 years.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I wonder what else is contained in those 20,000 emails?
The DNC has been corrupted. This is just proof of what we've been saying all along: the power brokers of the DNC are nothing but craven, power hungry assholes. I thank WikiLeaks for doing this -- there's never too much sunlight in government.
What other goodies are hiding in these pages? I can't wait for someone to rip into this shit and let us all know. It's hard for me to gracious right now, you'll have to excuse me. I'm enjoying this a little bit.
The RNC convention was a total shitshow, and I'm sure the DNC convention will be a shitshow in its very own way. Unity is just not happening, across the board. I wonder which loser Hillary Clinton will choose for VP: Tim Kaine or Tom Vilsack? Ugh or double ugh, that is the question.. If she picks somebody even remotely progressive (like Tom Perez), I will be shocked. I just did a search on Perez's name and it looks like there are scandals around the corner for Perez, so he's probably out of the question now.
I wonder what Bernie is gonna say about this. Huh. Thanks for the article, vl!
I miss Colorado.
Shiz - how can we help?
"I'm enjoying this a little bit."
Ain't enough! We need Martha and the Vandella's - Dancin' in the Street, at least!!!
Great timing on Wiki's part - now if we could just find an index to it all!
RNC shit show
On a slightly different note... visited with an administrator ( Top Dog) in a large Indiana school district this afternoon at his family cottage here in Northern MI. His response to my question of " will you be sad to see Pence go??? was a big goofy smile, a sarcastic wave, and a joyous bye-bye. The State of Indiana can't wait to see him go....and these good people are conservatives!!!
How about this gem?
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new-leak-top-dnc-official-wanted-to-...
DNC CFO Brad Marshall suggested that the party should “get someone to ask” Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders about his religious beliefs.
Didn't I read somewhere about a religious test for office?
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Same coin
Different sides.
Howls of protest notwithstanding, Hillary and her entire machine are no different than the Republicans they claim to hate. Bernie was a breath of fresh air from the usual putrid stench of beltway politics.
Just when I thought I'd reached peak disgust.
Assholes, all of them.
That's the beauty of the Clinton's.
No matter how deep you drill you can always tap into another pocket of revulsion to mine.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Fri, 07/22/2016 - 3:17pm —
Fri, 07/22/2016 - 3:17pm — Alphalop
And the fracking waste flows directly into the corporate media to poison all in its path...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
As a reminder, it's Brad Marshall who is Treasurer of
Bernie Victory Fund (which among other reasons makes it appear that BVF is not really Bernie's nor a victory fund, of course): http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommit...
His main role, as stated - http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Brad-Marshall/260482016
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
DAMN: is it the same person? eom
Check the links
Bernie has never asserted he signed an agreement for a victotry fund.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
WikiLeaks is likely to prove that the DFHs were right.
It may be too little and too late but will be satisfying, nonetheless.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Kinda satisfying...
But also extremely frustrating. Do you think this will be mentioned on any of the nightly news broadcast? Fuck no. MSNBC? Rachel? LOL! How about Hilington Post? OK, now I am just getting ridiculous.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
Huffpo at least does have something!
Just a link to an intercept article, but it's on their front page:
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new-leak-top-dnc-official-wanted-to-use-bernie-sanderss-religious-beliefs-against-him/
Huffpo is so swingy sometimes.
Great click bait too
gets them views.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
It's only too little too late if we sit back and do nothing
So I'll ask again, what are we going to do about this? We have to come up with something.
This is unacceptable. These craven, corrupted criminal asshole "Government Representatives" and their bought off toady lickspittles on American Information Networks like CNN and MSNBC--must be stopped NOW.
I am so with you on this.
But what action(s) can we take?
Honest question. The more brazen shit that comes out, the more helpless I feel.
We have to organize
We need a mass organization to monitor and challenge the vote. It needs to be a huge organization.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Philadelphia
Philadelphia is a place to start. Make sure there are posters, hand outs all about the Wiki leaks.
Still time to call the super delegates from your state, and make sure THEY know that YOU know all about this.
F--K UNITY. Never Hillary. All loud and very clear at Philadelphia, for a start. Don't think MSM will pick it up unless there are numbers of people acting up.
Anyone wanna bet if GOS even mentions Wiki leaks
Sure, I will bet. :)
What odds will you give me on "No"?
I would be a fool to bet any other way... lol!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
What about all of the once
What about all of the once-organized Bernie volunteers who were doing all of the door-to-door and informing people in places like markets?
If they had hand-outs on this and did the amount of run-around they did for Bernie before, wouldn't that do marvelous things? This is their right of choice and democracy being flushed, after all, and we already know that they're dedicated and care.
Edited because I rather ironically missed the 'double-you' in 'we', but it's there now.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
what to do
maybe it is just a way to vent, but I have been sending a rfeply to every politician from the left who supports Clintion, that I will offer not one penny to support a corrupt warmonger for POTUS. For every email I get lambasting Trump, fear mongering me to donate to the Dems, I respond with " HRC will be the reason we have a Trump presidency. She is a corrupt, and terribly flawed candidate that will only solidify the GOP voters."
Maybe no one reads them, but I feel better after sending 50 or so repies to beggars who are super delegates, and or are in the Clinton camp. The media keeps spouting that 90% or more of Bernie supporters will vote HRC in November. Damn!! I hope they are wrong.
Write in, or vote Green! Never Hillary
Corporate media
will ignore this story just like they have Bernie and Jill. We desperately need a main stream media outlet that practices journalism!
They won't report on their own complicity in the delusion. Remember the CNN LA protest they didn't cover. Remember occupy.
I saw TYT cover one of the last big Bernie rallies and the people were standing in front of the press box chanting the media is corrupt...the media is corrupt...
But of course that doesn't make the 6 o'clock news.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Is this bad, or am I reading into it?
Vernon Jordan
Is a clintonite from way back. I knew he was involved in the Monica Lewinsky mess. Had to look it up; he found her the job in nyc.
Didn't he also serve under Jimmy Carter?
I think he's been around longer than Clinton, but I might be thinking of someone else....??
Probably.
Maybe you're thinking about Hamilton Jordan
Carter's press secretary. Vernon Jordan was a leader in the civil rights movement and he later worked for Bill Clinton.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Yup
you're right, that's who I was thinking of--thanks
You're welcome. I remember him because he was kind of cute.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
That doesn't matter
Just do a "check drop" with DWS.
Beware the bullshit factories.
A check drop might mean she dropped off other people's
checks; so after donating all she could, became a bundler.
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I wonder what Bernie's going to do.
Is he going to pretend America didn't just get played and he didn't just lose a rigged election? Or is he going to call out the DNC and, if necessary, run as a third party candidate?
Beware the bullshit factories.
Whatever it is, I hope he does something.
He absolutely cannot let this slide. It's an insult to all of us who voted, supported, contributed, and worked for him to have this go unchallenged. The DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign and the media to rig the election and steal the nomination, despite the fact that they claimed to be neutral. This is everything that we've been saying this entire time, but now there's hard evidence.
If Bernie stays silent about this and keeps up with his "Hillary supports..." and "worse than Trump" nonsense on Monday, I'm going to lose my shit.
This is really off topic but
Is it the military that took an oath to defend the Constitution?
Just askin'
Now, what were we talking about?
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Technically, if we were strict constructionists . . .
there would be no standing army.
Vernon Jordan very old Clinton bff
This one is interesting
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/426
It's a whole slew of negative comments about Sanders after Nevada
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
that's an email/news letter TO the DNC
It is from the Washington Post.
http://link.washingtonpost.com/click/6747175.459938/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2Fz...
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
Personally, I lost faith in
Personally, I lost faith in Mother Jones after they published pro-Monsanto articles and the Atlantic after pro-Harper propaganda was printed. Those hurt.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Okay, one of the emails lists a donor's full name! Not cool!
It's a very small donation, and the phone number is bogus, but this is not cool, wikileaks!
Nope. That donors name shouldn't be in the email
to begin with.
Exactly.
Not cool, and probably missed
Not cool, and probably missed in the hurried processing - or perhaps contains an important hint?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
anyone know where I could get a copy of the whole dataset?
In something like MBOX or PST format?
I can do a lot of cool stuff with this dataset with my tools at work. I already talked to a PM here, and she was interested. I'm pretty sure I can get my bosses to sign off on the idea as well, selling it as a sample dataset for examples and training and whatnot - most e-discovery platforms already use the old Enron dataset for that, this would be just be a much more up-to-date example.
I want to run this through Nuix e-discovery software (think metadata mining) and then load it into a database platform that will let me do a lot of tricky, cool things to it.
Displaying all the the e-mail threads in order, while removing duplicates in the chain (lessens duplicate e-mail review); and also apply conceptual analytics against the dataset (think instead of searching based on dt-search index type keywords, but grouping documents together based on concepts within the words of the documents) - this lets me then apply clustering of those concepts together to bring like-minded e-mails and documents together for review.
I wouldn't be able to let anyone have access to the database, but could definitely get away sharing screenshots of the cluster groups and e-mail threads - it would help people show where and what to search against to find the same documents....
Anyone, bueller? I couldn't find any sort of download link on the wikileaks site as of yet....
I don't have the answer to your question
But I do hope you find it!
Wow
They are actually writing the media response to the Nevada caucus.
nevada
Beware the bullshit factories.
Ratf*cking, thy name id DNC (and HRC)
Kaplan sounds like a beep!
https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/24#searchresult
Correction: Kaplan IS a Beeeep!
Side note: is that a handy way to keep money that's over limit? Or do you suppose to tribe sent a note saying they wanted to donate to the building fund?
Emphasis mine, of course.
https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/25#searchresult
Is this legal? Not that Killary or DNC cares.
Look at the second batch of bolded text I posted above.
Can a political party receive a donation in excess of the limit, and just put it in a different fund?
I'm assuming the limit is $100,200 for these groups since that's the exact amount donated by the other listed groups, and it's the amount limited by the guy who got called a dick.
FYI DWS email address
Hi,
Someone else can confirm, but DWS email seems to be hrtsleeve@gmail.com if you search on hrtsleeve you find emails signed DWS.
One presumes by this point she is no longer using that email address.
PS: I assume the email address implies she "wears her heart on her sleeve" Puh Leeeze!
____________________________________________________________________________
"I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it. "
-Niccolo Machiavelli
"Sorry Hillary"
-TheJerry
More like she has a plastic sleeve filled to the top
with the hearts of her enemies.
That woman is as vile and corrupt as her bestie Clinton...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Just read that #DNCLeaks is trending on Twitter.
Interesting tweets, for those interested:
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=DNCLeaks&s=typd&x=27&y=16
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
Dammit I did it
I went to the SOB (Site of Betrayal), to see what's being said about this. In the one thread on the rec list, something doesn't compute. Wait Bernie people were banned for pointing out rigged elections. Bernie people are electing Trump. Bernie beats Trump in polls. No error error smoking error error does not compute.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Rhode Island issue isn't really clear.
It sounds like they've heard reports about closing polling stations through a Twitter account -- believe it's actor Tim Robbins -- and that they want to seek clarification from the Rhode Island Governor, a Clinton supporter, so that they can be on the same page.
If they need to ask for an explanation, that doesn't suggest coordination on the poll closures -- only with respect to their messaging about why poll stations are being closed.
On balance, however, the e-mails confirm what everyone knew -- that the DNC saw themselves as an extension of the Clinton campaign, and that beating Bernie was part of that mission.
I'm glad that I haven't given money in years to the DNC too, because it sounds like donor information was also compromised -- something that the DNC claimed had NOT happened.
I've found 4, I think
I only posted about 1 donor, but I've found more. Their employers are listed too.
I completely understand wikileaks wanting to release these emails and am grateful, but, like the identities of informants that have been released in the past, personal information (including IP addresses, browsers, addresses, and full names) should not be released.
It puts them at risk of all sorts of things, and I'm not cool with that - I don't care who they support.
Maybe should have been blanked.
OTOH, they should never have been in emails to start with.
Is that all you're concerned about here?
If you're more grateful than concerned, perhaps try not to do the enemy's work for them? Why not let THEM find the information and make a stink about it? I'm sure they'll notice, and try to use it to discredit all the emails Because Wikileaks Don't Care 'Bout Nobody's Business.
No, for crying out loud, they just exposed proof of MASSIVE FRAUD AND COLLUSION with the American "media".
You want your address posted online?
Cool, then post it. See what types of idiots show up at your door. Hopefully they're just a little nutty and not rapists, murders, arsonists.
Thing is, if you post it, that's on you, and hopefully no one near you gets hurt or killed or ripped off because of it.
If I posted your information, I'd be liable for any harm you, or anyone near you incurred.
The first person I found made a $5 donation. Everyone whose info shows up in the leak should sue everyone involved.
It's foolish and dangerous to put private citizens' personal information online. But I can see we disagree on that.
As stated above, the information should never have been passed around in emails.
See, I think you're still missing the point
Sensitive donor information should NEVER be included in an email. EVER.
That's on the DNC -- not the donor, and not Wikileaks. In fact, we should be grateful to WL for showing the DNC's incompetence (once again).
I agree AND I didn't miss the point
I stated
Never, ever should've been in any emails (and lots of people are included in the email loop). But they were.
I just hope nothing horrible happens to these people. I consider them koolaid drinkers, but not "the enemy" and I don't think they deserve to be hurt because they drank the damn koolaid.
I don't agree that WL isn't partially liable. Other emails appear to have been wiped, because there's obviously stuff missing. They could have done the same for personally identifiable information on private citizens. Lord knows they've had the emails long enough - at least most of them.
Agreed.
It's enough to simply demonstrate that the DNC was lying about donor data being secure. However, the information has no other public interest. It should have been scrubbed.
DNC rather more than supports
DNC rather more than supports Hillary, being willing to cheat for her - they obviously have no problem than Hillary does with hazarding the security of other people/the nation.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
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