What you aren't hearing about Syria

You may not know that Syria isn't all about Russia! Russia! Russia!
For instance, the pro-regime change Syrian Network for Human Rights had something interesting to say today.

According to a report by the Syrian Network for Human Rights published on Wednesday, coalition strikes targeting mainly IS-held areas in eastern and northern Syria have killed 649 civilians since September 2014.

It's hard to seize the moral high ground against Russia when you have so much blood on your hands, so the news media will ignore this.
But this isn't what I wanted to talk about today. I wanted to talk about the Kurds and Turkey.

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Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan declared on Tuesday that his country would next attack the town of Manbij in Syrian Kurdistan (Rojava) after capturing the Islamic State-held city of al-Bab nearby.

Then, in an ominous tone, Erdogan called for some Neo-Ottoman Empire.

In a speech at his palace, Erdogan conjured up an image of Turkey constrained by foreign powers who "aim to make us forget our Ottoman and Selcuk history", when Turkey's forefathers held territory stretching across central Asia and the Middle East.
"From now on we will not wait for problems to come knocking on our door, we will not wait until the blade is against our bone and skin, we will not wait for terrorist organizations to come and attack us," he told hundreds of "muhtars", local administrators generally loyal to the government...
He often laments the concessions made by Turkish leaders after World War One, with the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne that brought modern Turkey into being in 1923. Pro-government media this week published maps depicting Ottoman borders encompassing an area including Mosul.

Erdogan is especially pissed about not having a leading role in the Mosul offensive. He's even playing a game of chicken with Baghdad.

Two weeks ago, Turkey's parliament voted to extend for a year the deployment of an estimated 2,000 troops across northern Iraq to combat "terrorist organisations".
Around 500 of these troops are currently stationed in the Bashiqa camp in northern Iraq, training local fighters for the battle to recapture Mosul.
Days before Iraqi troops and their local and international partners started their push to recapture Mosul, Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi condemned Turkey's military presence in the country, and warned that Ankara risked "triggering a regional war"....
Mosul remained under Ottoman control for nearly 400 years, until its capture by Britain in 1918. The city served as the capital of one of the three provinces in Ottoman Iraq and was seen as an integral part of the empire.

In the more immediate future, the Syrian Kurds of the Afrin canton are in danger from Turkey's jihadist allies.

Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) factions and Islamist forces have given the Kurdish YPG just 48 hours to leave Tal Rifaat or else face a war.
Tal Rifaat lays just 10km west of Marea and 40km north of Aleppo city.
The imperative town had a prewar population of around 20,000 war and was captured by Kurdish forces from the extremists of Liwa al-Fatah of the Islamic Front in February 2016.

Just in case there was any doubt about who's side Turkey was on, and what the consequences might be.

Local observers on Twitter reported that Russia launched airstrikes Oct. 19 against Free Syrian Army (FSA) positions in the city of Marea, Aleppo province, north of Sahba Dam. The FSA warned all civilians to leave Tal Rifaat on Oct. 18 and declared it a military zone. The area is primarily held by Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) based in Afrin, but the FSA wants to retake it, having lost the area amid the battle for the city of Aleppo. Turkish-backed units of the FSA have been embroiled in ongoing clashes with YPG fighters since Oct. 18 as each moves in on Islamic State positions in the vicinity. Turkey has stepped in with artillery support for the FSA, shelling YPG positions Oct. 19 in Hasajik, Hasieh, the Sahba Dam and Um Hosh. The FSA's recent advances have brought it within a few kilometers of loyalist lines.

Put simply, Russia is defending our Kurdish allies against an al-Qaeda-like group aligned with our NATO ally, Turkey.
So Turkey and Russia could end up shooting at each other over, with Russia defending the Kurds and Turkey defending our al-Qaeda enemies.

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YOU ARE A GIFT, a blessing, all good things - a voice of reason, sanity, and always valuable information. Some of it damn hard to read, frightening, true, incredible detail, - always grateful for enormous amount of work you do to keep us informed.
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for expressing my awe of gj, too.

You keep us informed to the nth degree. A million thanks, dear friend. Good

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Erdogan just recently announced his gov is training 1,700 people from the FSA to attack Tel Abyad right in the heart of Rojava in 29 days.

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Solidarity forever

Got a link?

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Edrogn did not anounce anything. I just skimed the headline soon as I woke up this morning. It was just a few tweets from a very relible source, giving info on what he is calling the Jazira sheild op. The Turkish/FSA op objectives are to take all majority Arab SDF controlled areas of Rojava, with the focus on Jazira/Tel Abyd

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Solidarity forever

Alex Ocana's picture

The USA support of Rojava is minimal and only because the only effective force against Turkish supported Daesh and Al Nusra have been the Kurdish forces and their local allied ethnicities. Secular, socialist and feminist, I hope they won't be betrayed once again by the United Terrorist States of the USA , NATO, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

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And being a Bolivian socialist myself, this Kurdish girl's school book says it all to me. Long live Rojava! Free Kurdistan!

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From the Light House.

leonamarie's picture

Then you sort and report. You are truly a voice of reason and clarity. Interesting how murrika seems so happy supporting all quarters in this $$$$$$ making conflict. Except of course, when the russkies get involved. Thank you again.

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I no longer believe in the religion of progress

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Kurds - No friends but mountains.

The Turks are bombing and shelling numerous Kurdish positions tonight as the Kurds have defeated Daesh in frontline areas NE of Aleppo. They are challenging the USA to see if they support Turkey and Daesh, or the Kurds.

The region of Western Syria known as Rojava by its Kurdish majority is undergoing a profound project of democratic reconstruction that offers possibly for transformative peace and freedom in Syria and the larger Middle East. Key dimensions of this transformation relate to its decentralized nature, and how economy, justice, defense, ecology, pluralism and feminism and many other issues are brought to the fore. The Rojava Revolution is fundamentally a women’s revolution against oppressive social structures and patriarchal traditions. Not only are women leading the democratic transformation of their society, they are also engaged in a total war against the so-called Islamic State.

https://kurdishsolidaritynetwork.wordpress.com/2016/10/13/upcoming-event...

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Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Kurdistan, ISIL, etc. are all just pawns and pieces on a giant chessboard.

The players are the USA and Russia (b/w as per your choice).

The chess game is being played out as we watch. Obscure moves are carried out, pawns and pieces are sacrificed from time to time in exotic combinations, and only the GMs understand the logic of the game.

We're in the Middle Game now, where the outlook is murky. Soon the situation will resolve (or not) by an unexpected sequence of moves, or, more likely, the game will meander into a meaninglessly boring draw with only a few pieces/pawns left on the board.

The players will shake hands, and ready themselves for the next conflict on another Board.

Isn't that the way it's always been?

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

as minder for a friend who took the dangerous true hallucinogen, Belladonna. Literally having to deal with giant spiders and trains in his living room bugging him. This is how these times are different. We've got literal lunatics playing the game while holding nukes.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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I mean, our government plans on mass murdering even more civilians anyway, so let's do it efficiently! I'm sure it'll lead to many more great business opportunities like Iraq did! Just gotta make sure our arsenal is prepared for the challenges ahead.

Sorry, I think I channeled Shrillary for a moment there.

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Pretty sure the USA has supported/promoted FSA as moderate rebels. At least until very recently. (I don't know what happened after FSA #2 posted on Facebook !!! that "First we exterminate the Alawi." Then again GIOKIYAEN -- Genocide is OK if you're an exceptional nation.)

If my Memory serves, there picture is even worse than you describe.

All apparent conflicts resolve once you realize selling weapons to everybody in a conflict is one of the objects of policy.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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A discussion from a site that I don't know anything about:

http://iswresearch.blogspot.com

From elsewhere: There are reported to be 5000 US troops involved. The Kurds are moving quickly and efficiently. Serious refugee crisis already with many refugees aiming for the Rosovo (Syrian Kurd) border.

Peshmarga is announcing nine villages captured from Daesh. Women are a major part of the operation and sending Daesh to a place where, after being groped by the likes of Clinton and Albright, 72 pigs chew off their rodent-like genitals.

I suppose its clear I don't have anything good to say about religious fanatics of any stripe, color or book, nor the role of police state capitalist vulture states of which I could name quite a few.

Kurdish Peshmarga Women Fighting and Preparing Food - Mosul

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Situation Map:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bHid4cjV8P0/WAfSoB0K2HI/AAAAAAAAH6c/vhFniHUtJ...

I am not sure what is propaganda, what is true, don't have any trusted sources. As an anti-war activist, anti-imperialist, a socialist/athiest and long time supporter of Kurdish Independence (Free Kurdistan), I am not even sure what my position is anymore. It sort of seems to me that if they just stopped, declared 8 or 10 separate "states" where people could freely migrate where they wanted (maybe make trades for land and houses) and had a strict ban on weapons imports... well we'd still have the fucking religious fanatics trying to force their sick shit religions and corporate vultures forcing their capitalist schemes on people. What a complete cluster fuck... and all those poor people being maimed and killed and their livelihoods destroyed... for what?

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From the Light House.

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Syria warns it will ‘down Turkish planes next time,’ calls bombing of Kurds ‘flagrant aggression’

Damascus has reacted harshly to the bombing of Kurdish militias in northern Syria on Thursday morning by Turkey’s air force, vowing to intervene next time Ankara sends its planes over its border.

In a statement, the Syrian Defense Ministry accused Turkey of “flagrant aggression, which targeted innocent citizens,” saying that it considers it “a dangerous development that could escalate the situation.”

“Any attempt to once again breach Syrian airspace by Turkish war planes will be dealt with and they will be brought down by all means available,” warned Damascus, whose planes, which have flown in concert with a Russian expeditionary force, have been avoiding direct confrontation with unauthorized NATO jets.

Just when you thought tensions couldn't get any more strained.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?