First Essay here: Leaving the Dem Party

CNN is on behind me but muted. I don't need their dialogue. We're as smart and possibly more intuitive than they are. My dad always said, "It's 10% of the people dragging the other 90% along." In this case, we're about 45% Dem voters for Bernie. I'm a lifelong Dem. My first vote was for George McGovern. My last will have been in the AZ Primary, for Bernie Sanders.

I believe that it would be a monumental thing for those who are disgusted by the Democratic Party's coronation and embrace of Republican lite policies to leave the party, en masse on a specific day. We create a hashtag and post the hell out of it on all social media formats.
The question is what date should that be. I recognize that some need to remain Dems for various reasons. In fact, I will still be working for and with Dems in AZ to break the 24 yr hold on the AZ legislature. But, I will be doing it as an independent.

I'd like to hear your thoughts about the date we should change our Dem registrations, possible hashtags, and your thoughts.

I'd also like you to read this article about HRC and her Dark and SuperPAC$. It'll remind you why moving away from the Dem party is the only way to break the cycle.
How ‘Citizens United’ is helping Hillary Clinton win the White House
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/07/19521/how-citizens-united-hel...

Sorry about any irregularities in the post. My first. ¡Andale!

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So the Super Delegates know in their bones that Hillary can't win. So the media has nothing to talk about except the mass exodus. So the Democratic Party knows it's days are over unless they relent and the super delegates choose the only electable Dem candidate.

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WindDancer13's picture

the convention start the chatter on FB and Twitter. Then the day after or last day of the convention...Boom!

I would not gt to hopeful about the media covering it. Although, I think there are a few outlets that will, just not mainstream. Probably people like Seth forgot his last name (I think at Salon) and H.A. Goodman would write pieces.

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Several days of action. And if numbers change drastically, Secretaries of State may send out a press release.

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a few journalists would start calling secretaries of state, especially if that suggestion is made in the press release. Of course, if we can't pull it off it will do a little damage to our cause. But not stop us!

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As for the Grand Bailing Out Date, how about Halloween (Samhain)?

Oct. 31 is the traditional date for ancient Northern European societies to mourn their dead; and, as the "Democratic" Party is dead to an increasing number of us, I think that it would be an appropriate date to do it.

Those whose main reason for sticking with being registered Dems is the right to vote in a closed primary or caucus (what I face myself, living in Colorado) can quietly re-register sometime in 2017 without taking any of the impact of re-registering unaffiliated on 10/31 away!

And being just before the General Election on November 8, it would maximize consternation in the ranks of the Dem Party bosses, too!

This is shaping up into quite The Idea, DesertRose! Good on you coming up with it!

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lunachickie's picture

We could call it:

October. SURPRISE!!!!

And won't they be thrilled, how many days before the general?

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Pluto's Republic's picture

Doing it during the week before the Convention would get some press as a 'No Confidence" vote.

That being said, #NoConfidence is what it is, I think.

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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato

I think that would resonate.

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If done before the convention, gives Bernie the maximum amount of leverage.

Also scares Ed Rendell and his ilk, that there could be TROUBLE on the floor of the convention! We know there's gonna be activity outside, but this would put the fear into something happening on the floor.

Ala burning our draft cards.
Guess that dates me Smile

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But, that would be after the convention. The sooner we start, the better, IMO. Let them see as soon as possible that Bernie has juice and Democrats are losing it. Then, I can at least hope they will come to their senses before the convention ends.

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...... congratulations on your first c99p essay!

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I like reading action ideas presented conversationally.

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Cosmic's picture

I think of you regularly these days as I wait for my actual Desert Rose to set its first buds. It is a deep magenta one.

As to the topic, I'm with you. I too am going back to being an Independent as well. Vl Baker wrote a piece the other day about making the shift the day of the Convention. That seems like a good day to me, but I'm open to whatever day people think will have most impact.

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DesertRose's picture

A friendly face, in a new setting.

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wilderness voice's picture

Civil too, even when we disagree. No worries. welcome.

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I think a good day to quit the Democratic Party would be right there in Philadelphia, if the whole thing is dependent on the super delegates and Sanders is basically being killed by them.

Yuuuge protest leaving the party. They don't understand another language, I guess. They better learn not to rig the votes, not to coronate in advance and not to buy super delegates or throw all super delegates out. Period.

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Like taking your ball and going home. and rather Pyrrhic as well.

Doing it the week BEFORE the convention is a hardassed political stance guaranteed to get their attention.

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But would they even know we changed our registrations? I mean, it's not like they get regular updates, do they?

I do like the thought of a big de registration, just wonder if anyone would even know we did it?

Isn't there already a group pushing July 29 as the date? Whichever date we should try to work together as much as possible - not just here but with multiple groups.

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Seriously, he is going there to advocate: and anything done should be in response to what happens then at the Convention:

It is also slightly possible that if there are indictments or more comes out, this will hurt his position.

I am adamant that while it might have "maximum impact" it could also spectacularly harm the work BERNIE has done, and I do believe we owe him the courtesy of staying in until actual delegates weigh in and have voted.

This is the kind of reactivity that could REALLY harm all the work that has been done: we go to the Convention with Bernie

Otherwise we are knee capping him when he has worked hard for us.

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And yes, if these things happen at the convention:

1. DWS is removed
2. Superdelegate system ended
3. Party makes a stand to end PAC money and unlimited campaign spending
4. Goes back to ending contributions from lobbyists

I could possibly stay in the Party. Bernie is just a leader/messenger for changes that need to happen. That movement can't die, and whatever form it takes, I'm there.

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also have to start being more Democratic. Caucuses should end. Primaries should be open. Same day registration, early voting should be in every state. Make it easier for people to vote not harder.

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Caucuses are harder to rig than primaries.

Just sayin'.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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#FormerDemocrat? #LeftBehind? #DemNoMore? Actually kinda like that last one.

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And I love the idea of choosing a day to act together.

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It's plays on the whole revelations apocalypse book series, so will get eyes, plus it's so perfectly true. The left has been left behind....

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altho it does occur to me that evangelicals would probably take it over. They really do believe that stuff (have relatives deeply into it...and I've been warned!)

Another one I came up with was #LeftExit.

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#exitleft.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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While I personally like the joke of #LeftBehind, because I hate that literalist fundamentalist stuff.... you do have a point. No need to dilute the message arguing with evangelicals.

#ExitLeft is perfection.

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&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp I wonder how long it would take for this to go viral.

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          I like the theatrical vibe it conjures from the depths.

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Haikukitty's picture

We are leaving to move left... or the left is leaving the center-right Democratic party.

But it's all there in two little words. Brilliant. Smile

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I used to, for fun, just imagine how much better we could make the world after all the Christian fundamentalists were spirited off the planet. Oh, the things we could accomplish!

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JayRaye's picture

without them, my secret thought is "promises, promises..."

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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons

I still think the Dem party is the best way to get structural change, although the quality of life in your area is probably raised more in the short term by volunteer stuff.

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DesertRose's picture

I tried. Really. But the old guard is really tireless and strong. Even at the District level.

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that will need your input and efforts. Just keep an eye out. I think part of what will happen in Philadelphia (outside of the convention) is some kind of plans for the various groups to work together, form coalitions.

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

your argument has been made repeatedly over the last 26+ years while the dem party has declined in almost every way possible, I think people who keep repeating it should just stop.

Change everything from within!!!! Work your buts off and surely something will change!!!!

Yep, been hearing that bs for years and years.

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dfarrah

I thought there were factions within the party and that, by supporting the faction we preferred, we could effect real change. I didn't learn until this year that the whole smelly "Democratic" mess consists of authoritarians happy to march in lockstep with a right wing warhawk if she could deliver the money. Some of them -- Sherrod Brown, John Yarmuth, etc. -- have pretended to be liberal so well that I bought it. Never again.

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I finally got it thru my thick skull that my local yokel party "Leaders" were more interested in the free pizza and patting each other on the back than, you know, winning elections, that I finally stopped going to meetings.

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

for the past 40 years. While the dem party continues it's slide to the right.

The party is rotted to its core. Down to the nub. You cannot change it from within. That's been tried for far too long. It's time to go Green.

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I still think the Dem party is the best way to get structural change,

The Democratic Party as recognizable as such in a continuously-loyal State in 1975, maybe.

Sure as fuck not and never with today's Dixiecrats, Turd Way, and other such conserva nonsense in charge. In other words, anything surnamed Clinton or any supporter of the same.

We don't really have a Democratic Party any more; we have two Republican Parties, one called "Democrats" who are only mildly to the right of Ronald Reagan, and the nominal Republican Party which is becoming ever less distinguishable from Benito Mussolini's Fascists or the Spanish Falangistas of Francisco Franco's time. With one exception: both of my European examples understood full well that both unemployment and underemployment needed to be completely wiped out for their nations to have the strength their nationalism desired. By contrast, the American major political parties of 2016 don't give a rat's ass about anything but how to make the Wall Street Ca$ino wealthier and more powerful. Neither of them could care less as to whether the United States of America and its ordinary working-class people prosper or not.

Your saying might be true if we still had the Democratic Party as continuously-loyal States knew it in 1975. But we don't. Therefore, your saying isn't true, as the bait-and-switch Presidency of Barack Obama shows us altogether too well. Here was a golden opportunity for large-scale structural change, in the hands of one who promised us that change; and it was flushed down the fucking sewer in a huge wave of kumbaya bi-partisan compromise with the forces of right-wing evil. Barack Obama will go down in history as exactly effective a President as Millard Fillmore or James Buchanan, with a legacy of net harm far more like the latter than the former. We still have military personnel in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Guantanamo Bay's military prisons are still in operation. We're saber-rattling against China and Russia hoping to ignite yet another God-damned WAR.. And the so-called "economic recovery", what there is of it, is essentially a jobless one, only really benefiting the F.I.R.E. sector at the cost of all others.

And you want us to come together behind Hillary "Even Worse" Clinton? The one we voted against in 2008 because we already knew what she really stood for after the first Clinton Presidency did so much to destroy everything common working Americans had? And was confirmed when Hillary Clinton became the Secretary of State who never met a war she didn't like or that the USA and her arms industries shouldn't get involved in?

I don't think so. Truth be told, we're not leaving the Democratic Party at all. It has long since left us, in preference to the Third Way, the Dixiecrats, and Hillary Clinton's Wall Street buddies. All we're doing is offering to make honest women and men of ourselves en masse on the same day, so that the Dems' bosses hopefully get the message.

One other small point of order: You are correct insofar as our needing serious improvement in the quality of our lives. But tiny individual volunteer charities will have no effect here whatsoever. Only a total, committed, all-in, World War II style national effort can. And the sooner we trash austerity, incrementalism, conservatism, governmental inactivism, and timidity, and replace these with bold, strong national domestic activism on the part of our entire government, the sooner we can recover the kind of economy and national life we can and should have.

Of the three surviving Presidential candidates, only one has advocated any such thing.

And it's not Hillary Clinton. Or her Republican counterpart, either.

Diablo

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Solidarity always!

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Democratic Party more to the left, progressive! Especially when he is pushing for the close to treasonous TPP which will see our country give up its national sovereignty over to foreign corporations.
And the ACA is a stinking pile of dog shit, after what he campaigned on it being. Making deals with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies while the democrats let the republicans water it down and taking out the great parts in order to get their votes for it. But knowing damned well that they weren't going to vote for it. Then giving it to Baucus who had Liz Fowler from WellPoint write most of it.
Not prosecuting the banks, the CEOs or MAKING THEM apply real effort in helping people whose houses were upside down.
Income inequality is as bad as it was in 1928, and what has he done that has actually helped the middle class or the poor people?
More wars, countries destroyed, people dead or fleeing from them.
The 3 coups he and Hillary orchestrated which has turned those countries in to flaming Shitfests.
I could go on all night, but electing Hillary who has said that she's going to continue his legacy isn't going to do a damned thing changing the party. If the democrats were really in favor of this, they would have gotten behind Bernie and his ideas.
And when Hillary privatizes social security, like Bill was in the process of doing, don't say that we didn't try to warn you.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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I really do. I'd be happy to come back when that happens.

But as a completely disillusioned lifelong democrat, I need to leave for my own mental health. Some relationships cannot be changed from within. It's like staying with an abusive partner. Simply by staying you are condoning it.

Sometimes you just need to walk away.

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that clearly isn't true. If it was, we would have seen some kind of improvement over the past couple decades. But no, we have seen things get worse and worse, and the Dems drift further and further to the right. If I can see that happening over the short period of time I've been old enough to vote (and hence started paying attention to politics), which has been since 2008, then I think it's time to do some reflection and ask what changes have actually been accomplished through the Democratic party itself. I for one can't think of anything beneficial for the people that started within the party itself. I can only think of things that started with we the people fighting for it, often times in spite of the party (lgbt rights, minimum wage, internet freedom), that the party ended up taking credit for.

Meanwhile, I've heard and read numerous examples of the party working for and enacting things that benefit themselves at the expense of the people (war, pot criminalization, trade deals, militarized police). They never celebrate those ones too loudly, but they reap the benefits nonetheless.

What change has originated within the party itself that has been beneficial to we the people?

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Every four years, the progressive wing gets marginalized, condescended to, ridiculed and summarily dismissed as dirty hippies or some such nonsense. This year the slam is that progressives are just childish unicorn-chasing hipster millennial Bernie bros. Every four years, the D party effectively uses identity politics to distract from the fact that until money is out of politics NOTHING beneficial or substantial will come to pass that actually DOES lift people of color, women, the poor. Certainly nothing will happen to prevent the ongoing effort to turn the planet into an uninhabitable toilet. At this year's convention, our ritual pat-on-the-head-now-go-away will come in the form of meaningless platform platitudes that the anointed one has no interest in or obligation to adopt. (Sorry to be in such a piss-poor mood. Besides Bernie losing yesterday, our elderly bunny had to be put down. So I'm both pissed off and weepy today.)

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"Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy." --Albus Dumbledore

Seriously, I feel dirty. I can't stand being a part of an organization headed by Hillary Clinton and her chorus line of grinning Professional Party Prostitutes whose hands are perpetually extended to grasp their shares of Clinton-collected corporate cash. The Dems are now the Rockefeller Republicans, and the Republicans are now the Dixiecrats. A plague on both their houses.

But although I've wanted to drop my 44-year-old party registration since the primary, I've held on in hopes that I can do it as part of a mass effort that may attract the prostitutes' attention. I thought the day AFTER the convention might be the day, as that would be seen as a reaction to the Coronation.

Is #GoldwaterGirlOwnsDems too long for a hashtag? (Sorry. I'm old. I don't do Twitter.)

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on "Makeitplain" this afternoon. She was very impressive and passionate that the Green Party wants Bernie and his followers. She has no less experience than trump (zero in both cases) but she is smart,articulate, and well versed in the issues and persons involved in government. I liked her point that with the Libertarians making a strong showing in the polls, a Green could win in a four way race (So might the Libertarian).

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

I just can't pull the lever for a Clinton knowing how corrupt they are.

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better than today's Dems in many respects. That is where I started out, many years ago. At least the Rockefeller Republicans seemed to believe in clean government. Just as I realized that it was time to leave the GOP because fighting as a Rockefeller Republican was tilting at windmills, I too am thinking of foregoing my Dem registration. Kind of sad to feel forced out of both major parties.

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The Rockefeller Republicans hadn't sold out. They didn't have to, because they were already on the side of money, and money supported them while they did what they AND the money thought was right.

Rockefeller Republicans who are calling themselves Democrats and who are running as Democrats are a different kettle of fish entirely. They take money to do exactly the opposite of what they claim to stand for, of what the party platform says they stand for. They are the very essence of sellouts.

The policies they ultimately espouse are similar, though, if not identical: classic Country Club Republican, with fairly decent social policy. They're not overt racists. How nice.

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of Bernie challenging Hillary until she and her surrogates repeatedly, publicly, covered themselves with shame. Longtime Democrats, even people who have worked in their local or state parties, now want to leave, precisely for TwainDisciple's reasons.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Seriously, I feel dirty. I can't stand being a part of an organization headed by Hillary Clinton and her chorus line of grinning Professional Party Prostitutes whose hands are perpetually extended to grasp their shares of Clinton-collected corporate cash.

Thing is, I've got to stay Dem so I can vote in the second Florida primary, held in August (I've got a vote with Alan Grayson's name on it, assuming it will count?)...

Upthread, someone noted 10/31, which sounds like...a treat. I can hold out that long, to be able to dump them along with a bunch of other folks at the same time. Should be an illuminating day, whatever day we decide on :).

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And Halloween does sound like an appropriate choice.

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Twain Disciple

my head around how much immorality and republican policies dems will accept as long as it is a dem pushing.

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dfarrah

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I don't think I can hold out to Halloween.

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And I still like that date a lot.

Doing it before or during the Convention is a BIG mistake. There's no question which side of the primaries we are on; and if we bail from the Democratic Party before the final decisions are made with respect to the Presidential ticket, that will guarantee a Hillary Coronation, earned or not. So let's not do that. Let's keep our impact pure, clean, and as immune from retribution as possible.

Bailing on Halloween, 1 week before the General Election, will do just that.

And don't forget that after the Inauguration, if you have local political needs to remain affiliated with the Dems, you can always sign back up, temporarily or otherwise. In fact, that could even work to our benefit; the Party bosses won't know who they can rely on, which is just where we need 'em.

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

The problem there is the danger of losing your vote entirely. You can't switch parties at the last moment before the election and guarantee you wont' get purged from the voting booth.

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Today I voted in Iowa for Fieglen against establishment pick Bob Hogg and Patty Judge and fellow progressive Bob Krause. Unfortunately I suspect progressives divided between Fieglen and Krause. Neoliberals are worthless, even as lesser evils. There is "NO HOPE" that a party that doesn't respect voting rights will change anything for the better for the 99%. I will vote third party when neoliberals are nominated. Charity is a necessary evil in a shit society not real change. We need to start filing civil rights lawsuits though. And we need to sue organizations like the AP and MSNBC for election rigging.

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Good to see you here. Drinks

I'm waiting until after the primary in August. Here in AZ-02, we have a Berniecrat running against a CorpoDem, so I'm still in until the primary. The day after that I'm ready to get out tho, whichever wins the primary.

Actually, I like the October 31 idea. It would be great to do it all at once.

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You don't have to be a Dem to vote in the primary.

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I guess I'm ready to go anytime, then Smile

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KrazyKitten's picture

I'm trying to hold off changing to unaffiliated to join a mass re-registration drive but it is really hard. I live in Oregon and can quickly change my registration online. At least November is a bit away because I have yet to decide whether I will write in Bernie or vote for Jill Stein.

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The Democrats and their corporate masters. The new Reagan lite party can piss off. They'll get no more of my time, money or effort. If there is a movement to leave in solidarity on a specific day count me in.

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I've been looking thru the comments and can't find it again, but one mentioned a build up to a day, which ever day we choose, commence with a hash tag and chatter about the plan. Building momentum and gathering support like that would be good.

About the date, my thot is that it doesn't have to be just one date. Now I think a few days before the convention would be a good date. But some need to wait because they still need to vote for Bernie in a late primary or for Grayson in Florida. So there could be other dates also, with the same build up on twitter and face book. A few waves of resignations might increase the effectiveness of the exit.

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snoopydawg's picture

Put so many lobbyists are the convention platform which is going to set the democratic agenda?
At least Bernie has gotten 5 great people on it and that includes Dr. West. So what that he criticized Obama?
There are so many of us that have been criticizing him since he went back on his promise to filibuster the FISA vote, his cabinet appointments and so many, many other policies and actions he has taken.
Especially when it comes to the increasing wars in the Middle East. The drone program, the buildup for wars with Russia and China. And finally spending over 6 years working on the TPP.
Just think if he had worked that hard on the ACA, improving the economy and going after the people who crashed the global economy and then put them in his cabinet.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

DesertRose's picture

A spirited discussion. I must admit, I like the idea of several days of re-registration action prior to the convention. That should give those inside the convention hall, a bit of a jolt. Well-needed. It would be great to get at least 20% of Dems to re-register. IN AZ, Dems are the smallest Party affiliation and Indies are the largest.
Thanks for reading, all. Let's work on this to make it happen.

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It sure is nice to hear from my hometown.

Thank you Rose for suggesting an action item. I will be changing my registration to Independent after the convention. Whatever date will help our cause the most has my support.

“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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that is scheduled for Thursday, I read somewhere. Because I'm a nosy person, I really would like to know that they say.

I suppose that since the meeting has been announced ahead of time, there will be some sort of blah, blah, blah statement. "We had a substantive discussion." Or something that means it didn't go anywhere.

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While I'm enamored with the resonance of Halloween, I also agree that many do not want to wait that long. (Disclosure: I live in Vermont, where I do not have to declare party affiliation, so I can't participate in this action -- though I wholeheartedly support it).

Labor Day has the advantages of being far enough after the convention so as not to hurt Bernie, and after critical primaries where some need to be registered as (D) in order to vote people like DWS out on her ass. And, given Bernie's lifelong support of Labor, I like the connection.

Just my humble two cents.

As for hashtags -- how about #DemNoMore? I think someone may have suggested this already but I can't find it.

I'll do whatever I can to spread the word once this thing gels.

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I was leaning towards pre- or post-convention, but you and others have convinced that wouldn't be wise. I like Labor Day better than Halloween.

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This article posted in today's BNR (well worth the full read) suggests dumping cable TV as an act of revolution.

While I've personally already done this, I'd love to see a massive "Dump Your Cable" day coincide with a mass re-registration day ...

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Great idea! In my home we don't subscribe to cable or watch much TV (better for our mental health!), but this would be a very effective social action, I think, as most people probably do write that big monthly check to the corporate propagandists. Dump Your Cable day would hit 'em where it hurts.

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Re-Registration Day

Shortly before the convention
Shortly after the Convention
Labor Day
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I would not have known how to do that.

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          in the lower right of the poll: It will take you to the site. The process is reasonably straight forward.

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The symbolism is nice, because the chief reason I want to leave the Dems is that they have abandoned Labor to the tender mercies of management. I wish there were a Labor Party that I could join.

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My state, Minnesota, went overwhelmingly for Sanders on March 15. But our so-called "liberal" lawmakers (Amy Klobuchar, I'm looking at you) who are super delegates, never altered course from the predetermined Clinton Third Way highway. If someone does start a drive to de-register from the D party, they should include state-by-state instructions. The secretary of state in MN does not record party affiliations; that falls to the parties. At any rate, I'm done voting D after decades of naïve loyalty ("Maybe THIS time it'll be better!"). My state is "safe," so I won't feel too conflicted about filling in the oval for Jill Stein in November.

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          With the likes of Pete Ricketts Nebraska is safe from ever being on the right side of anything.

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My mouth dropped open when she showed up, all giggly, in the all-female conga line behind Hillary in New Hampshire. Talk about nauseating.

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O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.

I'm still shocked at what I learned about professional Democrats during the past few months. And now Elizabeth Warren has joined the in-crowd. Jesus.

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happened here. The supers were campaigning for Hillary well before we had our caucuses.

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Enough disgusted people in states like Minnesota and Washington (and California) might vote in big enough numbers for Stein to keep Hillary from winning those states.

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