Trump, Sessions and Sanders - God Approves of Our Actions But it's the Democrats Fault

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When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” (attribution uncertain but face it, it's happening now)

The Attorney General of the United States of God Bless America, because God ONLY blesses America, has said that God him or herself has Blessed the practice of separating immigrant children from their parents.

Because God wrote the Bible, right?

"I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order," he said. "Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful."

I didn't see where he addressed putting those children in cages but I'd imagine the authority is somewhere in Psalms, or maybe Peter.

"Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137

1 Peter 2:18: "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-cites-bible-to-defend-se...

Then there's this little factoid:

"It's fitting that Sessions turned to Romans 13. The text has a long track record of being used by Christians attempting to defend immoral public policy. In the 1850s, when slave masters paid preachers and public theologians to defend the plantation economy against abolitionists, Romans 13 was one of the most cited texts of slaveholder religion as well."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bible-verse-sessions-used-to-defend-imm...

Oh those Christians, they're such sticklers for morality aren't they? Slavery, putting kids in cages, wars, torture, just obeying God ya know. Isn't there something in that book that talks about Making America Great Again?

White House Propaganda specialist, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, defended Sessions' assertion that God has approved of the administration's actions.

"I can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. That is actually repeated a number of times throughout the Bible," she said. "It's a moral policy to follow and enforce the law."

Sorry God, but that's fucked up. Have you seen some of these laws?

I watched a short video of Sanders sparring with the press on this (can't find it now) and have to say, she sounded like a childish, petulant liar. To accompany the bizarre use of God to justify their actions she also repeatedly and nonsensically blamed the democrats.

"The separation of illegal alien families is the product of the same legal loopholes that Democrats refuse to close, and these laws are the same that have been on the books for over a decade, and the president is simply enforcing them," she said."

Make sense of that one. Their actions are just because God has approved of them however it's the democrats fault for making a law that God says they must obey.

That's the same bullshit Trump has been spouting and it's basically obfuscating lies. They're fucking liars, but what else is new. So was Obama and his crew, and on and on. It's Trump's "zero tolerance policy" that is the culprit. But it's all the same with God, he/she wants us to obey our government, evidently.

"The zero tolerance policy was announced on April 6. From April 19 to May 31, 1,995 children were separated from 1,940 adults, according to Homeland Security statistics obtained by The Associated Press. The figures are for people who tried to enter the U.S. between official border crossings.

Trump's repeated, but nonspecific references to a Democratic law appear to involve one enacted in 2008. It passed unanimously in Congress and was signed by Republican President George W. Bush. It was focused on freeing and otherwise helping children who come to the border without a parent or guardian. It does not call for family separation."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trump-assails-dems...

Of course for the whacked out sociopathic narcissist person that is "our" president, the act of separating children from their parents is a good negotiating tool against the democrats to get his and his supporters their WALL.

"President Trump has calculated that he will gain political leverage in congressional negotiations by continuing to enforce a policy he claims to hate — separating immigrant parents from their young children at the southern border, according to White House officials.

On Friday, Trump suggested he would not change the policy unless Democrats agreed to his other immigration demands, which include funding a border wall, tightening the rules for border enforcement and curbing legal entry. He also is intent on pushing members of his party to vote for a compromise measure that would achieve those long-standing priorities.

Trump’s public acknowledgment that he was willing to let the policy continue as he pursued his political goals came as the president once again blamed Democrats for a policy enacted and touted by his own administration.

“The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda,” he tweeted. After listing his demands in any immigration bill, he added, “Go for it! WIN!”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-trump-immigration-bill...

This helps illustrate how ridiculous our political system has become under the two party rule. Two political parties, both representing different factions of the oligarchy/ruling class constantly bickering and blaming each other while invoking God as their authority. Logic and common sense go out the window replaced by near adolescent level arguments to justify increasingly brazen actions. Tell me, what is the biggest law breaker on the planet?

Ya, God Bless America, man.

FUBAR.

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We will continue to practice our inhumane practices, until you agree to more inhumane practices.

It's past the point of no return. Grab what you can, it ain't gonna last is by far the most dominant mindset of the American Elite these days. Once I figured that out, everything they do makes sense. Keep everybody busy watching the bullshit while they run away with the money.

From a sick sociopath point of view the Concentration camps are by far the most brilliant idea ever. I mean, Nobody gives a shit about the poor and criminals, and the Democrats claiming to so after doing the exact same thing for years is the height of hypocrisy. Since the poor will of course rally to the defense of their own, the Democrats feel no shame whatsoever in manipulating the poor with empty promises to end the depredations...

Course the wool coat is getting a bit threadbare, and the accusations of wolf fur clearly visible are ridiculous because they come from emails that we totally agreed we weren't going to talk about. Yes we did, poor people. You weren't there. We totally had a vote though, and your guy agreed that they were something we were sick of hearing of.

/snark

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Reverend Dr. Barber, someone I admire very much, definitely disagrees with Jeff Sessions. I think Reverend Barber carries far more moral authority in his little finger than Jeff Sessions ever will.

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@gulfgal98 but it's not an atypical attitude among the true believers with a long, long history.
I don't know about Barber, the mega preachers turn me off big time. I don't believe the bible should be the primary arbiter of moral authority in this society or with our government.

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@Big Al

Yes, pun intended.

I don't believe the bible should be the primary arbiter of moral authority in this society or with our government.

This is it, right here, I could not agree more.

Yes, now with this ridiculous biblical justification from Jeff Sessions, and the double down by Sarah hucksterby Sanders, now we are definitely going to be in for another round of “whose interpretation of the Bible is the right kind of Christian” arguments.

No true Christian... well, that gets us nowhere. As you pointed out, the Bible is full of passages that can be held up to justify basically anything. Including truly vile stuff. Everyone who followes the Bible chooses the parts they like, and ignore the rest.

Fine in ones personal or spiritual life, if that’s the book you find useful. But when our public policy is being argued based on what the Bible says, in any capacity, that is a terrible idea.

We are supposed to be a secular country. Obvious, we are not. This taking the Bible as the basis of what to do about immigration and the way our government is treating these people at our borders, is just so ... ugh. I have no words. Or about anything else for that matter.

Thank you for this essay Al. Yesterday at my job, this came up. Sessions really lit some fires. We usually avoid talking politics too much there. So the whole argument about what a “real Christian” would do ... I had to bow out of participating in that discussion. It’s maddening.

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@CS in AZ Less a "one true Christian" argument and more a "you needn't be this kind of psychopathic asshole if you *ARE* a Christian" argument.

Of course, if you go back to what Jesus is reported as having actually said, and stick to that, I'm afraid you can't avoid the "one true Christian" argument, or, as Gandhi once put it:

Reporter: "Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of Christianity?"
Gandhi: "It might be nice if they tried it."

From that perspective a lot of the shit that's followed has been a series of deviations from the original message that are various amounts of crazy and abusive.

But it all depends on what you mean by Christian. After a couple thousand years, while it's still relevant to point out the way Christians don't follow Christ, it's hard to say that practices they've engaged in for hundreds of years are "not Christian."

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@CS in AZ And it goes without saying that the Bible can't justify public policy.

A man I once respected once said: "You put your hand on the Bible (Koran, Torah, whatever) and swear to uphold the Constitution. You don't put your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."

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@Big Al is the founder of the Moral Monday movement that began in NC. He was arrested at the NC state capitol for leading the Moral Monday protests at the NC legislature.

Reverend Dr. Barber is also the founder of the Poor People's campaign. He is the head of the NC chapter of the NAACP. He is the pastor of the Greenleaf Christian Church in Goldsboro NC, hardly a megachurch by any stretch of the imagination.

While folks may not like religion or religious leaders, Rev. Dr. Barber is a man who walks the walk by advocating for human beings. The Moral Monday Movement has advocated for voting rights, gay rights, the environment, equal justice for all, and especially for the poor. Despite having a physical handicap, Rev. Dr. Barber continues to get out in the front lines advocating for human rights for all people and for the poor in particular. By his works, I believe he is the closest person today who is following in the footsteps of Martin Luther King, Jr.

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@gulfgal98 But you can't deny Christianity and the bible have been used to justify awful things since it began. And religion, especially Christianity, has been used to keep the people distracted and docile toward being ruled. That's been especially true in this country with all the God Bless America, In God we trust, and the countless other ways they try to portray this country as a "Christian" country. I've found no bigger hypocrites than American Christians and this thing with Sessions and Sanders is another example of it. Of course that's a generalization, like generalizing about the democratic party.

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@Big Al

But I do admire Rev. Barber, and I think he would be first to agree with you.

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@dkmich familiar with him, plus, I absolutely do not watch TV news or political shows and am not religious so I just haven't followed what he does much. And I'm a big admirer of MLK Jr. in what he said and did. But you certainly don't have to be a Christian to be moral or understand what morality is. In fact, like you say, Christianity doesn't really have any standing to lead a moral resurgence. Again, kind of like the democratic party.

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@Big Al But if someone happens to be a minister and is doing good works or advocating for the poor, I certainly will not dismiss him or anyone else who is doing the right thing.

I do not attend church because of the hypocrisy involved in most main line churches. When North Carolina proposed the anti-gay Amendment 1 several years ago, Reverend Barber was one of the few well known ministers to speak out against it. He made a very eloquent video that said discrimination is discrimination. It was intended to remind African Americans that people used the Bible to discriminate against them and they cannot do the same to gays. Not one minister in my town spoke out against Amendment 1 and only a retired Episcopalian minister did.

As I have posted here on many occasions, I am all for forming alliances with others that I may not agree on all things. We are fighting against some very evil forces who are against humanity. If we are to survive, we must band together based upon our commonality, not be divided by our differences.

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Anyone else recall the bible tv show with all the little boys in cages on wheels being carted off to die because the king had heard that Jesus existed? Maybe Trump thinks he can stop another Jesus. Lots of 'em named Jesus, so round everybody up.

"Muddy Jesus" aka 'Jesus Crossed the Rio Grande' by Ian Moore

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The democrats already agreed to give him $25 billion for his damn wall, but he turned them down. How many miles does the wall already stretch? If people are still finding ways to get passed it then it seems to have been just a big waste of money. Oh wait. It is. Guess who has submitted examples for his wall? At least 3 banks. I'm sure that you aren't surprised by that.

Sanders and Sessions are totally ignoring the words of Jesus himself, not someone else's translation of what he said.

I'm in agreement with dkmich. So many evil things have been done in the name of religion. What the Catholic Church alone did shows that there is no Gawd's love in their actions. IMO, of course.

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Trump has demonstrated the emperor is naked and there is an all out war on the American people by its government

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@snoopydawg

dunno how much was actual wall, but the millions spent on the cameras were a waste as in: they dinnae work. gawd's blood. oh, and O's massive deportation was all about 'criminals', remember? course that might have meant you dinnae have your green card with ya. and how long did he let sheriff joe arpaio's tent cities for 'illegals' in AZ flourish? note the clever signposts. folks died of hunger, thirst, disease. he took road crews out in pink underwear, remember?

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hypocrisy. as brian sonenstein reminds us only too well: 'The U.S. Has Been Breaking Up Families For Years', Mintpress News and shadowproof, June 15, 2018

"CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Democratic Senator Diane Feinstein about a bill she introduced, which would prohibit the federal government from separating immigrant children from their families during arrests at ports of entry or within 100 miles of the border of the United States.

As he asked his question, Tapper brought up a photo taken in 2014 of children sleeping on the floor of a cage at an immigrant detention center.

There were a lot of things done to undocumented immigrants that the immigrant community was very upset about during the Obama years, that Democrats didn’t seem that outspoken about,” Tapper said. “What do you say to people who say, where was all this activism during the Obama years?”

“I don’t believe that it was nearly to the extent that it is done today,” Feinstein said. “And candidly, I didn’t really know enough about it at the time to focus on it. I do know enough about it now.”

Immigration arrests rose during President Donald Trump’s first year in office when he reinstated the Secure Communities Program (S-Comm), which began in 2008 under President George W. Bush and continued into President Barack Obama’s second term.

ICE under Obama averaged 309,887 arrests per year from 2009-2012, while ICE under Trump averaged 139,553 in 2017." [snip]

"Breaking up of families and separation of children from their parents is a practice that dates back to the Obama administration. As Rewire News has pointed out, men were routinely separated from their children and families during deportation proceedings.

"In January 2016, the Obama administration openly targeted immigrant families for arrest, separation, and deportation via early dawn raids. It was part of an explicit strategy to attempt to scare people fleeing death and abuse in their home countries from crossing the US border."

boy, howdy, do i remember the photos of kids on the floor in cages covered w/ silver space blankets; might even have a few in my media files. yeah, this iteration of the ICE campaign seems a notch more cruel, esp. targeting unaccompanied minors fleeing violence, and he didn't thump the bible on this issue as i remember. but he did make a deal with peno nieto to stop those fleeing central america at mexico's southern border to send them back.

but it was okay when the other guy did it? kinda like a lotta D/R 'partisan' responses, eh?

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but i hadn't seen mention of them in your OP. and when i'd mentioned ICE raids and policies getting worse, i apologize for forgetting these items i had on a minimized word document to possibly write up (so many issues joust for amplification in the hard days):

Outcry mounts against Trump policy of forced separation of refugee children and parents; Administration preparing to hold immigrants in tent camps’, Norisa Diaz and Patrick Martin, wsws.org 5 June 2018

far too much horrifying reporting to feature much, but:
"Driving the media coverage Thursday was a tour given the previous day to a small group of journalists through the largest single detention facility for children, the 1,500-bed Casa Padre in McAllen, Texas, near Brownsville, where boys between 10 and 17 are held. The facility is a former Wal-Mart superstore, now run by Southwest Key, a “non-profit” which has raked in more than $1 billion in federal contracts to run detention centers in the region.

At Casa Padre, an estimated 95 percent of the children came as unaccompanied refugees, seeking asylum from the violence-ridden countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. But a significant number, 5 percent and growing, were separated from their parents under the new Trump policy.

In other detention facilities along the US-Mexico border, the proportion of children separated from their parents by the Trump policy is now 10 percent. The ORR oversees nearly 11,000 youth in an estimated 100 shelters across 17 states, with Southwest Key operating 26 shelters in Texas, Arizona and California."

US Citizenship and Immigration Services unveils new initiative targeting naturalized citizens’, Meenakshi Jagadeesan,14 June 2018, wsws.org

Abolish Washington’s immigration Gestapo! Stop the persecution of immigrants!’, wsws.org, 16 June 2018 (in which he also mentions beauregard's bible thumping.)

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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reported that in 2016, private prisons held nearly three-quarters of federal immigration detainees.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarceration/privatization-criminal-ju...

And we all know the real God in America is the dollar. That's the "change" we're after.

BTW the quote from Paul is ironic since he was imprisoned for civil disobedience...

"He spent five years in prison, from 57 A.D. to 62 A.D., during which he wrote the prison epistles, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians and the letter to Philemon. He then appeared before Nero, who was only 24 years old at the time, having become Emperor at age 17, in 62 A.D"

Paul had been seen in the city with Trophimus, a Gentile from Ephesus, and so the rumor quickly spread that the apostle had taken “Greeks” into the temple and “defiled this holy place” (Acts 21:28)—which was a capital offense. Before long, the city was aflame with the “lynch-him” mentality. Paul’s life was saved only when Roman officials intervened and took him to a place of safety.

Eventually, under heavy guard (470 soldiers; Acts 23:23), the apostle was taken to Caesarea over on the coast, where he was confined in Herod’s palace. Over some period of time, Paul was subjected to a series of interrogations. Finally, after two years had lapsed, and it appeared that “justice delayed is justice denied,” the noble preacher concluded that he would never receive a fair hearing under the present circumstances. And so, exercising his right as a Roman citizen, he appealed his case to Caesar (Acts 25:11-12).

Funny how those who quote scripture rarely understand it.

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https://therealnews.com/stories/georgia-county-commissioner-takes-oath-o...

Georgia’s new Athens-Clarke County Commissioner Mariah Parker is a 26-year-old PhD student and rapper who took her oath of office on Malcolm X’s autobiography. She discusses how leftists can start transforming US politics at the local level, and how music can inform social justice

Guess everybody has their concept of a holy book or words from a prophet...or is that profit? I never could go with just one view as "the word" myself, but think there's something to learn fro them all. Glad they let her use it. UGA is in her county.

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