They hate us because we're assholes.

Today I ran into this article on FB that could have been, should have been, fake news. I googled it to see if it was real. I didn't find it in the American press, well, because it isn't Trumpor propaganda.

Fury in Cambodia as US asks to be paid back hundreds of millions in war debts

Half a century after United States B-52 bombers dropped more than 500,000 tonnes of explosives on Cambodia's countryside Washington wants the country to repay a $US500 million ($662 million) war debt.

The demand has prompted expressions of indignation and outrage from Cambodia's capital, Phnom Penh.

While sputtering my outrage and trying to decide real or fake, I ran into another piece that expressed my disgust for what I had read better than I ever could. I keep wanting to scream obscenities and call my countrymen and their selfies names.

They hate us because we’re assholes
In China and Iran, two countries that are even more enthusiastic about capital punishment than America, authorities sometimes pursue what’s called a “bullet fee.” Basically they try to bill the family of an executed person for the cost of the execution–plus, who knows, a little extra for overhead and expenses or whatever. Families don’t have to pay the bill, but generally that means they forfeit the right to claim the body and give it some kind of funeral ceremony.

We rightly recoil from something so grotesque. Imagine executing someone, quite possibly on false and/or bullshit (i.e., political) charges, then asking that person’s family to pay for the privilege. Here in America, we may not want to pay to keep you from starving to death, or to allow you to see a doctor if you get sick, but when we execute you–whether formally for your third felony marijuana possession charge, or impromptu if you’re doing something really vile like selling loosies–your family can rest assured, it’s on us. Our pleasure, really.

Well, most of the time, anyway.

But what I’m trying to figure out is whether there’s any difference between collecting a “bullet fee” and, say, this:

Half a century after United States B-52 bombers dropped more than 500,000 tonnes of explosives on Cambodia’s countryside Washington wants the country to repay a $US500 million ($662 million) war debt.

The demand has prompted expressions of indignation and outrage from Cambodia’s capital, Phnom Penh. What a bunch of ingrates.[more]

Just as I was about to burst, I saw Caitlin Johnstone with a picture and a caption worth a thousand words. God I love this woman's writing. Go read this too.

Call Me A ‘Purist’ Again

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No, idiots, we are not “purists”. We aren’t asking for our leaders to be pure, we are asking for them to not be lying, corrupt, warmongering psychopaths. That’s normal. We are not the weird and unreasonable ones in this picture. The weird and unreasonable ones are the people saying we need to accept leaders who will continue to bolster income and wealth inequality while funneling all new income to the wealthiest of the wealthy, who will force Americans to work two or three jobs to feed their kids while spending trillions bombing other people’s kids in corporatist wars, who refuse to push for the massive environmental policy changes that need to be made in order to avert climate catastrophe because it might inconvenience their billionaire sponsors, who lie, cheat and steal from the American people with the help of their corporate media mouthpieces. That’s not purism, that’s just basic, bare-minimum sanity.

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today, this place is on fire! I want to grab all those hysterical, poutraged, whiney Fucks by the throats and Scream ' READ THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND WAKE UP!'
Apologies for the outburst to all who choose to be offended. Shit happens.

peace

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to distribute to his pals.

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@kharma I wondered the same thing, but found this, from They Hate us Because We're Assholes link:

When I read this article to my wife, her immediate question was, “is this guy [Heidt] a Donald Trump appointee or is he just a dick?” And of course he’s not a Trump appointee–at this rate the Trump administration is at least two years away from reviewing its ambassadorships to Southeast Asia. No, Heidt was made ambassador to Cambodia in 2015 by Barack Obama. So he’s just a dick.

But really, he’s not a dick, not all by himself. He’s acting on our behalf in squeezing the Cambodian government for what amounts to a rounding error in the annual Pentagon budget (seriously, they could write the whole loan off as payment for weapons practice and be done with it). So really America is the dick here. We the People are the dick, collectively. And what we’re doing to Cambodia (substitute Yemen, Syria, Libya, etc.) right now is very much the kind of thing that dicks do.

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@Deja

So really America is the dick here. We the People are the dick, collectively.

Not quite. There are indeed American criminal dicks involved, not disputed.

BUT:

The vast majority of "We the People" are in the exact same boat as the Cambodians are with respect to this issue. The funds constituting the supposed "war loans" were extorted from us, and are now being demanded of the Cambodians to benefit the extortionists.

Unless you are part of the 0.01% of the American population (i.e., 1 in 10,000) who are actually represented by our so-called "representatives" in Regress, you're just as much a victim as the Cambodians are from a financial standpoint. Extortion here, extortion over there.

Again, unless you are part of the 0.01% of the American population (i.e., 1 in 10,000) who are actually represented by our so-called "representatives" in Regress, you're no more to blame for this than a carjacked auto owner is for what happens during the joyride when the carjacker has him locked securely in the trunk. The fact that our name is on the title is meaningless at this point.

And the cure is the same, too: apprehend and punish the fuck out of the responsible criminals.

It is well worth noting that "people to people" interactions, such as tourism, reflect the reality I've described. The working-classes of places like Cambodia, Mexico, Vietnam, China, Russia, etc., know damn good and well that the ordinary working-class people of the USA have nothing to do with these clusterfucks. They know our votes mean less than the most meaningless votes in their countries do. And they evidence this by the loving, kind way that ordinary working-class Americans are treated when visiting their countries.

They know we are fellow victims, and therefore, by rights, comrades. And we ought to do everything we can to make that happen.

Diablo

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@thanatokephaloides Absolutely. The only place where ordinary American tourists are blamed is Paris.
Cambodians are just love. They normally do not hug. I talked, hugged, teared up, and hugged some more.
I would move to Cambodia tomorrow if finances permitted.
Or Laos. Same reception.

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jobs to keep up with health insurance, his two his expensive mortgages that he could not get re-financed after 2008 and to hope like anything he can afford to send his one kid to college. He had a stroke a couple of years, which I believe was from the stress.

Boy, does he piss me off. Damn him to hell for not fixing things!

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Sadly, it is our duty, the empire's role, to be capitalist warmongers.

I liked Caitlin's summary line ...

Go home corporate Democrats, you’re drunk. You’re drunk, and we’re gonna have to take your keys.

Someone needs to take away their keys!

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Even with keys, I don't think the car is going anywhere any time soon. It needs masive repairs first.

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          So, as soon as they straighten out the paperwork, the bill will be sent to Hanoi. And if they don't pay up, well Donald knows how to deal with them.

          I have it on good authority that those bombs landed in Việt Nam, not Cambodia. You know, no one in authority at that time would ever tell a fib, so those returning vets must not have known Shit from Shinola.

          Damn hippy propaganda, that's what that is.

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So, as soon as they straighten out the paperwork, the bill will be sent to Hanoi.

Yeah. That already happened during the Clinton Administration.

Hanoi Agrees to Pay Saigon's Debts to U.S.

MARCH 11, 1997

The Vietnamese Government… has agreed to repay to the United States millions of dollars in debts incurred by the former South Vietnam for roads, power stations and grain shipments during the Vietnam War, Administration officials said today.

The agreement, struck on Saturday in Hanoi, ends several years of negotiations with Vietnam over its assumption of debts, now worth about $140 million, incurred by the Saigon Government before it fell to North Vietnamese forces in 1975.

Many of those debts were incurred to bolster the South's war effort… but the repayment does not include the vast sums -- roughly estimated at $1 billion -- in direct military assistance that Washington transferred to the South during the war. In fact, in the negotiations conducted by Treasury and State Department officials, Vietnam balked at repaying $12 million in outstanding loans for the ''Food for Peace'' program, arguing that through a series of complex transactions the United States used money that was ostensibly earmarked for grain purchases to help finance the war.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/11/world/hanoi-agrees-to-pay-saigon-s-deb...

Vietnam was given 20 years to pay back the "loans." That plus they had to throw their off-shore oil to Conoco to exploit.

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          Hyperbole and Satire leapt to oblivion from the Golden Gate bridge today as the World continued to spiral out of control disrupting what order still remained in the Solar System.

RIP

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knows no bounds. They hate us because we are the single greatest terrorist nation on earth.

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You know, all those well-informed FaceBook users have the ability to flag posts as "Fake News" and then FB can remove them.

I'm surprised it hasn't been flagged & removed, because it puts us in the exact light we should be in - bad.

And they were given leftover corn - but Cambodians don't eat corn, so they fed it to livestock.

Do we send bills to all countries we bomb the shit out of?

I'm gobsmacked.

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the greatest mass murderers and/or creators of mass murder and genocide on the planet. If it wasn't for Hitler, Stalin and Mao we'd already be there.

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@Steven D but no one talks about it.

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@gjohnsit I bet future BBC seasons of "Victoria" don't mention this atrocity.

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and work up until today. Not to mention all the people we killed under color of the death penalty, maintaining "law and order," etc.

This is just an official list of the official wars. A drop in the killing fields.

https://www.thoughtco.com/american-involvement-wars-colonial-times-prese...

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@Steven D except that they're dead.

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About a decade after a 23-year long slave revolution, in which 100,000 of them died, France sailed into Port-au-Prince with a huge navy and invasion fleet.
France demanded compensation for the loss of their "property" - i.e. the slaves.
So they forced the slaves, who had undergone incredible suffering, to buy their freedom.

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post, I posted this reply to Alligator Ed's claim that the Cambodia story was the ultimate example of chutzpah. "Just wait until we demand reparations from African Americasns. http://caucus99percent.com/comment/249182#comment-249182

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The asshole had the gall to suggest that Cambodia needs to "Look to the Future", while stating that the past debt would never be forgiven. Oh where have we heard THAT turn of phrase before?

I thought that "Looking Forward" was Obama code for not holding anyone accountable. Apparently it is merely a polite way of saying "Fuck you, I got mine, and now I want YOURS too."

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…at the end of the stick.

...had the gall to suggest that Cambodia needs to "Look to the Future"

Permission to trade with the US blockade is "the future."

Of course, Cambodia will also have to give control of select natural resources to Western corporations to exploit. But that's in the small print.

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Bush ever was. My hand itches to smack the shit out of him.

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EmptySuit that was real. He was one of the biggest and most successful PR sales jobs in history.

They thought it would work with the Clinton Creature too. Her 30+ years of baggage put the squelch to that. But they haven't learned a thing. The Dims are still trying and still lying. When will they figure out that we really DON'T have to support them, and that we won't when the choices is between the 1% and the rest of us?

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@dkmich
The con job that he pulled on the millions who voted for him is exactly why Trump is sitting in the WH instead of Hillary.
After surviving 8 years of Bush abuses and the republicans we thought that he was sincere about turning the country around and he would help the people who were losing their lives in the wars, losing their homes and pensions after the banks screwed us and offering us a decent health care plan.
The excitement that people felt during that election and the tears and smiles at Grant park after he won were dashed one by one with his cabinet picks and then watching him start the use of drones in countries that weren't involved in 9/11 or were a threat to this country.

There was an article about him and Michelle coming out of a luncheon with Bono and there were so many people commenting on how much they miss them and wish they were back in the WH.
These are the people who had no problem with his foreign policy or any of his domestic policies which has seen income inequality rise to levels not seen since 1928.
How people can live in a bubble and not see him as he truly is mind boggling, isn't it?

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who Obama was when I donated to him, worked for his nomination and election and voted for him.

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(Edit to add, since this landed so far down-thread: Obama is big on our always looking forward from recent governmental official-committed crimes)

... Because he knows, a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread. ...

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I just finished reading Caitlin Johnstone's great piece today. I had copied the same paragraph you did and was looking for a place to drop it here. This weekend on cc99% I felt I was being hauled back to the idiotic Demoratic loop of blaming anyone who doesn't believe the duopoly narrative a purist. People like me are the enemy of the good and agents of Putin to boot. So tell me again people what a bad man Putin is and why it matters which psychopathic pol whether Democratic or Republican implemented war crimes and crimes against humanity?

I am not and never have been a 'progressive'. I never liked this fake moniker as I felt it was a way to avoid the L word (old fashioned liberal). At the time it came into usage the Demorat's we're busy remaking the Dem. party into the DLC which then morphed into The Third Way. New Democrat's and New Labour are not liberal or 'progressive' they are neo-conservative and neo-liberal. This seems to me to be an insult to the real progressive movement that actually took on the ptb.

Opposing and resisting the current geopolitical reality we live in, Axelrod's 'world as we find it', does not make you a purist. Ask me it makes you a realist. I'm sick and tired of being in a loop wherein it all revolves around a partisan fake reality and a fake story. If it's all about the love/hate/fear of psychopathic politicians or meaningless party's then why are people who don't buy this insanity, purist's. I'm not a progressive or a Demorat. I don't self identify with any fake party or love any pol's persona.

I find the nationalistic global endless war fervor positively demented and pure evil. Shades of Dr.Strangelove. I became a member of my counties Democratic party in 2001 as I mistakenly thought the Bushies had staged a RW coup. I was recruited by a former Green party member who said we on the left need to get these RW nutjobs out of power and then we can go back to squabbling among ourselves.

Turns out we were both wrong and that the coup was by-partisan. This purist worked hard via the Demoratic party to get progressives elected on an local, state and national level. It worked people we're fed up with the Bush regime. The sad ending to my tale is that these so called progressives on every level we're corrupt, corporate, anti-democratic, disaster cappies on steroids.

In my opinion too many people are addicted to outrage, hatred and fear be it of Trump, Obama, the Clinton's or the complicit political party's both R and D's. When you add in the Culture Wars which the ptb love to stir up all the while calling for unity it makes no sense to me to base your reality on their cooked up reality. Doesn't mucking around in their world just validate the insanity and keep them in power?

How about playing it as it lays and really resisting the whole cooked up global shebang. I just refuse to give my consent to rule by any of these global psycho's. As for dkos just let it go it is pure evil weather your a Democrat, a purist, a pragmatic moderate so why give it your energy. It enables the false narratives to continue like purist's or unpatriotic Dr.Commie Rat Putin lovers. Enough is enough.

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@shaharazade That is so righteous it also deserves a Hallelujah!

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…Liberal, Progressive, Left, Democrat. I've never identified with them because they have no generational sovereignty. They are soulless badges from the olden days and not forged in the fires of the present. Thus, they enslave rather than empower. They have no vision in them anymore.

I believe in a continuously improved life for each generation. That's why you form a government in the first place. I believe in an ever more lovely nation year over year. I'm would join the Utopian party. Or the Better Life party. I'm done with old words that have had the meaning sucked out of them.

I find the nationalistic global endless war fervor positively demented and pure evil.

For me, this was the inflection point; it blocked all domestic progress. I pushed all other issues aside. That's the only issue I will vote on.

Had the US anti-war movement not lost its moral soul in 2001, and held strong against attacking Afghanistan (which had nothing to do with 9/11) — Americans today would still have a country they controlled. This I know.

That's a terrible story about your experience with a Party of betrayers. Was it betrayed and corrupted by a particular generation, or was it pre-doomed?

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Had the US anti-war movement not lost its moral soul in 2001, and held strong against attacking Afghanistan (which had nothing to do with 9/11) — Americans today would still have a country they controlled. This I know.

Some of us DID hold strong against attacking Afghanistan. I know I did. I also know gulfgal did. And I'm sure a rather impressive roster of those who did, in fact, do that could be raised from the c99p user list. Hell, enough of us still held strong that Mr. Obama made getting out of Afghanistan a campaign promise -- which he trashed, along with all of us, as soon as he was in power. (Al Capone would have been proud of his fellow townsman!)

And it's not just the nationwide anti-war movement (which I do agree with you -- it seemed like we were shouting at a granite wall for quite a while there). Almost all the American Left was neutralized in one way or another, do what we might to the contrary.

And we won't have a country we control until the ilk of the "DLC Democrats" are completely removed from power, and the portion of their number who deserve it sent to prison where they belong.

Diablo

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@Pluto's Republic In the sense that the Democratic party was remade by Al From in 1985. Remade in the image of a 'socially liberal' version of so called Raygun Democrat's. Bill Clinton was their man and the first DLC the New Democratic party's success. When I joined the Multnomah County Democrat's there was an influx of new blood due to Bush winning. Portland at that time was really lefty as it had not yet been gentrified or yuppified to the degree it is now. Daddy Bush labeled Portland 'Little Beirut' after his car got egged in a visit here.

I think that in the 80's and 90's regardless of generation it was a solid liberal Democratic city. The young people here were pretty radically left. Tree Hugger's abounded. Our district's state senator once told me in 2003 that anyone to the right of Che would have trouble getting elected in our district. I campaigned for Gore and got a lot of doors slammed in my face with along with the words Coke or Pepsi? from younger voters.

Lots of Greens,Indies in my then predominantly Democratic district. Our weasel Dem. pols all jumped on the 'progressive' bandwagon and talked like Howard Dean. Once in office they proclaimed Oregon was 'open for business' and proceeded to alien themselves with the corporate pillagers, privatizing everything and called it progress or laughably environmental and green.

Since then Portland has like the Democratic party become a free market cappies wet dream. These days the pols do not bother to campaign like green progressives. They do change their party affiliation from R to a D, as a R could not win here. The pols span the generations. Now that they have demolished the city and moved out the left here I'm sure they are looking forward to having a new population where the new resident's are more into endless growth for profit and fit there definition of progressives.

On the other hand I'm seeing a lot of resistance to the Democratic party these days, Lot's of yard signs that are not about partisan politics but are Black Lives Matter and ones that read 'In this house we Believe in love.....' I've got a Stop Demolishing Portland sign in my front yard. during the election I saws only two sign that were with Her. We voted out the most outrageous developer posing as a 'progressive'. This gives me hope as the Demorat's might lose their grip on even the professional yuppified progressive voters who are socially liberal. People are not as stupid as they believe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was a non-profit 501(c) corporation founded in 1985 that, upon its formation, argued the United States Democratic Party should shift away from the leftward turn it took in the late 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. One of its main purposes was to win back white middle class voters with ideas that addressed their concerns. The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves New Democrats. This term is also used by other groups who have similar views on where the party should go in the future, like NDN and Third Way.

On February 7, 2011, Politico reported that the DLC would dissolve, and would do so as early as the following week. On July 5 of that year, DLC founder Al From announced in a statement on the organization's website that the historical records of the DLC have been purchased by the Clinton Foundation. The DLC's last chairman was former Representative Harold Ford of Tennessee, and its vice chair was Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO was Bruce Reed.

Yikes! I had no idea the the Clinton Foundation bought them lock stock and oil barrel.

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@shaharazade
And it has morphed into another DLC type think tank which Markus is involved with it.
I tried finding the link for this and will keep looking.
But the fact that he is working for the new form of the DLC was the reason he made his March decree, in my opinion.

This article goes in depth about the DLC, its death and how it actually didn't go away.
I have a link to the article that Markos wrote during the Obama Hillary campaign where he states the reasons why she shouldn't be the president.
He called her a too much of a Clinton democrat and states why he's voting for Obama.

From the article:

But for other self-identified progressives who have embraced the establishment candidate, such as Moulitsas, the answers may be simpler: partisan loyalty and ambition. The fact is the odds of Clinton winning the nomination are very good. And for the likes of Moulitsas - who now writes columns for an establishment DC paper and is a major fundraiser for Democrats - being on the side of the winner will certainly make him more friends in DC than supporting the self-identified socialist that opposes her. Moulitsas argues that Clinton has dismissed "her husband's ideological baggage" and is "aiming for a truly progressive presidency." He is now a true believer, he claims. It is up to readers to decide if they find his argument to be credible, especially compared to the conflicting statements he has made for many years. Many on his own blog are skeptical.

It may have been up to us readers to decide if we found his argument credible, we just couldn't do that on his site Smile

The tendency of some progressives to downplay, ignore or deflect populist critiques of Clinton's record was observed by Doug Henwood in his 2014 Harper's piece "Stop Hillary."

In the article, he describes the "widespread liberal fantasy of [Clinton] as a progressive paragon" as misguided. "In fact, a close look at her life and career is perhaps the best antidote to all these great expectations," Henwood writes. "The historical record, such as it is, may also be the only antidote, since most progressives are unwilling to discuss Hillary in anything but the most general, flattering terms."

There are a lot of good links in it, including in this paragraph which I don't know how to make active from my iPad.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33869-hillary-clinton-s-ghosts-a-lega...

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... the historical records of the DLC have been purchased by the Clinton Foundation. ...

Needed to Correct The Record before they got leaked?

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Thanks so much @shaharazade for filling in the blanks. Portland's transformation was a leading indicator and microcosm of the effects the Neoliberals would have upon the nation and upon its society. But there is some redemption there. It is a place that still has a grip, while much of the nation is curling up at the edges. The nation's ruling class throws entire cities away. I noticed that the suicide and overdose rate in Ohio is now so high, they've had to resort to mobile morgues, rolling refrigerated semis.

Yet if this doesn't play out, the people will never find their centers and take the reins of government.

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@shaharazade I bow to your greatness.

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and created the conditions for the rise of Pol Pot.

John Pilger - Year Zero - The Silent Death of Cambodia [1979]

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The bombing killed over 500,000 men, women and children and created the conditions for the rise of Pol Pot.

My first protest action, at the ripe old age of eleven years, was against this bombing.

A fact of which I am still orgulously proud today!

Smile

note: I've stated elsewhere here on c99p that I was seven years old. I was just corrected today. My apologies for the prior misinformation.

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I'll forgive you anything, for 'orgulous', which I had to look up. Thanks for the nice, shiny 'new' word!

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I'll forgive you anything, for 'orgulous', which I had to look up. Thanks for the nice, shiny 'new' word!

You're welcome!

The words "orgulous pride" are all over Sir Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur, an old favorite of mine!

Wink

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"Cambodia has informed the United States that it is canceling an annual joint military exercise this year, even though planning for the event had already begun, officials from both countries said Monday.

Some analysts tied the cancellation more closely to China's influence in the region, which they believe will be exercised more vigorously after Donald Trump becomes U.S. president. Trump's rhetoric on China has been unfriendly, and he has suggested that the U.S. may reduce its involvement in the region."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cambodia-cancels-military-exercise-us-1113402...

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@Big Al "give us Kissinger and we'll consider it".

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Cambodia is probably afraid that this annual joint military exercise with the US will taken as 'proof of anti-US-(corporate)-interest aggression/concealed WMDs' calling for another expensive bombing to pay for Trump's Parasite Class tax cuts. Can't say I blame them; first thing that occurred to me. s/

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... The Trials of Henry Kissinger explores how a young boy who fled Nazi Germany grew up to become one of the most powerful and controversial figures in U.S. history.

Note right at the beginning, the secret bombing started after the Paris Peace Accords were signed.

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No, idiots, we are not “purists”. We aren’t asking for our leaders to be pure, we are asking for them to not be lying, corrupt, warmongering psychopaths. That’s normal. We are not the weird and unreasonable ones in this picture.

Yeah, what she said. What they call "purity" I call "common human decency". That's why there won't ever be any unity. We aren't united. Heh, I just had this discussion with my Hillary loving brother yesterday.

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@SnappleBC @Pluto's Republic Think of all those jobs.

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which is coming to St. George, Utah this weekend and has the names of the over 58,000 soldiers who were killed during the war.

I wonder how big a wall like that would be just for the people of Vietnam who were killed not just during the war, but from the exposure to Agent Orange and other contaminants that were left in the country or from the unexploded armaments?

According to one genocide researcher, up to 500,000 Cambodians were killed, many of them children.
The bombings drove hundreds of thousands of ordinary Cambodians into the arms of the Khmer Rouge, an ultra-Marxist organisation which seized power in 1975 and over the next four years presided over the deaths of more than almost two million people through starvation disease and execution.

And how big would that wall need to be for all the people that this country has killed from its creation, after the Monroe doctrine was signed and especially after WWII and 9/11 when this country has gone from country to country to protect "US interests" by either invading them or overthrowing their governments and installing its own government that as long as they play by our rules can commit any human rights abuses they want while our government turns a blind eye to them?
Pretty damned big I would think.
The numbers of people killed during our war on terror is much bigger than what they tell us because any male over a certain age is considered an enemy combatant.

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we don't like people that will stand their ground on principals and integrity, becuase it reflects just how much we as a society have little or no principals or integrity, and that, is just to to hard to deal with. We like to think, we're exceptional, but, having integiry and principals means we have to go against the majority, who have not only no principals, integrity, but compleltely lack any type of morals, Christian or otherwise.

The progressive Drone Murder King, jailed the whistler blowers about the illegal torture program, while the torturers were never even questioned. I'm surprised we haven't sued the people we tortured. The horror of making our proud men and women of the CIA torture people.

what an insane country, Kissinger walks free and now we are suing a country we illegaly bombed back to the stone age. These people need a bullet to the head, end of fucking story.

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party than I do the republican party, I find the continued focus on the democratic party by those that say they're fed up with the democratic party interesting. No railing on the republican party and its leadership, and they're in charge of the whole thing.

"we’ve eagerly embraced imperfect leaders like Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, Nina Turner and Tulsi Gabbard".,

apparently that's most of this blog but it isn't all of it. She doesn't speak for me regarding that. That indicates people who are still with the democratic party as long as its a leader they like.

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@Big Al I don't spend much time worrying about the Republican party because I understood they were all lying, cheating, corrupt bastards some time ago. The realization that the Democratic party is the same is much newer for me... 6 years ago. The primaries pressed the point home brutally. The McCarthyism only just makes me shake my head at this point. I suspect I comment on them more because I expected/hoped for more.

There's another aspect. As dim of a hope as it is, they are still the most likely source of some sort of 99% recovery. No, I'm not naive. I get it that it's a dim hope and that hope would require a complete turnover of the leadership. Yet there are no other prospects on the horizon and so reality is as it is.

For me personally, I am quite definitely not with the Democratic party no matter what. I'm not with any party. I vote candidate by candidate and what my "support" goes to the Greens.

Honestly, the most interesting thing going on in politics right now to me is Bannon and Trump. It's quite clear there are layers going in... particularly with Bannon. But I'm slowly beginning to think he might actually be fighting for at least interim goals I approve of. I have a LOT more digging I want to do on that.

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Mercer, Trump's billionaire donor who supplied Bannon, doe not like the TPP, which is the one bright spot I can see. On the other hand corporations are being given the same license to freely pollute, poison, defraud and kill workers/consumers in America as was demanded for participating corporations/billionaires in the TPP's offshored global private corporate/billionaire-only 'trade court' so it's hard to tell if it's going/gone through anyway...

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@thanatokephaloides @Big Al @Big Al @Big Al I agree. Why do people rant and rave about how fucked up the Dems. are and yet still keep focused on them. Get real both of our two party's are the same party. I too feel no more slighted or screwed by the Republicans or the Russians then I do by the Demorat's. Actually I feel more screwed by the Democrat's as I have spent decades thinking that perhaps they were the only alternative that could and would stop this shit. These days I realize we the people globally must fight them and stop giving them any energy by believing that the are the only alternative available. What a con. None of this USA! political bs. has anything to do with stopping this insanity. The Demorat's and their sponsors feed on the binary hate and fear that people waste their time, energy and outrage, propagating.

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@shaharazade
After Pelosi ran on rolling back the Bush abuses if we put them in the majority. We know what she said about impeachment and keeping their powder dry.

They never fight back at the republicans by using the filibuster or placing holds on legislation like the republicans do.

And I find the timing of Reid removing the requirement of legislation needing 60 votes to pass rather convenient when he knew that republicans would regain power leaving the democrats helpless to block their agendas and Trump's cabinet picks.

I admit that I believed that Obama would at least try to do what he campaigned on and voted for him the first time. But I never believed that 11 demential bullshit that people were saying when he continued to cave to the republicans or the kabuki actions during the health care debate.
Looking back I should have seen who he was going to be after his fisa vote that he promised to filibuster.

The democrats aren't going to change a damned thing. I know that because they are voting to confirm the worst cabinet appointees who are not qualified to run their departments and they know that those people are going to destroy their departments.
Fucking Ben Carson to head the DOJ and Warren voted for him knowing damned well that he wasn't qualified.
I haven't heard one democrat speaking out against any of them.
They are going to do what they always do. Let the republicans destroy our social programs, give tax cuts to the corporations and the elites, and let them take away people's health insurance starting with Medicaid because who the hell cares about the poor and disabled people?

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Wish I had extra recs so often here!

Sooner or later, all of that dry powder they've evidently been saving to blow out of their asses is going to... well, blow. I'd hoped it would Bern much earlier.

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The Democrats have been pissing on Trump and the GOP for over a year. They don't plan to stop, and they don't need our help. That leaves the Democrats needing real criticism, not Obama is a Muslim bull shit. I do not understand why you think we can't walk and chew gum at the same time. If Dems can get replaced, I'm in. If we remain stuck with them, give me a bat. I prefer my candles burning from both ends. I like options.

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@dkmich @dkmich party system because that's just the way it is? I heard that line in my 30 years in the fed, "that's just the way we've always done it". The democratic party, the warmonger, wall street, neoliberal party is my opposition. I'm not going to play with them while opposing them. Go for it if that's what you want to do but I don't know what you're going to achieve.

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Supporting a known evil is never a good idea; it invariably worsens and there's not much room remaining to hold more - or much time for any attempt to maintain life in the planet.

To both sides of the political (and the rest of the) Parasite Class, the American people are just another people to be conquered and America just another country to be freely polluted, looted and drained. Look at the stolen democracy and 'emergency management' replacement of elected officials of Detroit for the fire sale to the wealthiest of public property and the (edit: imposed extreme austerity and draining) of the citizens, if you have any doubts.

We must clear away the propagandized notion of the need of a 'Savior' 'from above' coming to save us - which is what got us in this state in the first place - and work to save ourselves. (Nonetheless - barring brainwashing - I have an entirely different notion of Bernie's strategy, which those who've read of Resistance actions may recognize. Let him, at the least, do what he must to keep the concepts of democracy alive in the corporate media, where they reach members of the public not having internet access or awareness of un-co-opted/un-propagandized sites, while The People work for a pacific means toward that democracy.)

With that caveat, from someone who often says what I'm thinking so much better than I ever could:

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