The other Big Lie about the stolen election
Here’s ten minutes of every prominent Democrat denying Donald Trump won the presidential election in 2016. These same people now tell us questioning the result of a presidential election is a direct threat to our democracy. pic.twitter.com/h428LRT8Tq
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) June 23, 2022
Oh my now ain’t that funny how democrats went on for 4 years lying about Trump only winning because Russia put him in office. Not only that, but Hillary and Obama asked the intelligence agencies to make up charges about Russia interference which I think made the election more illegitimate than some made up charges about Russia Russia.
Not to mention how Hillary and the DNC interfered in the primary against Bernie and giving Trump billions in free advertising on the Democrats’ mouthpiece media while having them not cover other republicans who were running and Bernie too.
Democrats have been saying that any republicans that weren’t going to certify the election were traitors to the country and yet we see that they used the same legal tactics to not certify Trump’s win. And they also did it when Bush won both times. And never forget that both Gore and Kerry just rolled over even though there was evidence that Bush used lots of shenanigans to make sure that he won. As did Bernie.
Democrats have also lied about Russia invading Crimea and stealing it from Ukraine. What they don’t mention is that the people there voted to return to Russia in a vote that was watched by some organization that certifies elections to make sure that they are legitimate. Just like they do in Russia and other countries. Jimmy Carter used to be involved in it IIRC and it’s sad to see him swallowing the Russia Russia crap. But then Bernie does it too even though democrats used it against him in Nevada.
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The One Thing the Dems Do Not Do
is anything other than posture.
This shit about Trump trying to bully public officials into changing Electoral College votes is fucking hilarious. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "The January 6th Insurrection." But I am ready to buy into the theory that Trump trying to coerce public servants is a violation of criminal law -- so indict the mother fucker already.
The Attorney General of the United States, Merrick Garland, serves at the pleasure of Sleepy Joe. Posturing about it on TV substitutes for actual, you know, action.
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By the way, about Russiagate and American Elections, this disjunction has been noted before.
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I posted that on November 11, 2020. Since then, the Dems in control of Congress have impeached him again, and bloviated a near infinity of trash talk -- but done nothing.
Once again, I offer the opinion that the apparent disputes this decade are feigned distractions from the ongoing transformation of global civilization from the Nation State system to a World Wide Order led by "expertise" rather than democracy.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
They're mostly right
in the video about the 2000 and 2004 elections -- stolen, with more evidence for the 2000 theft as Scotus stole it openly. But fair evidence too for the 2004 one, esp as per Mark Miller and the shenanigans with the election machinery in OH. So the difference is the Ds brought up valid-appearing charges of election theft, but did not formally pursue it further in either election and so just grumbled about it. Gore has never led the charge for election theft, and Kerry only quietly well after the fact grumbled about a stolen election. DJT, otoh, publicly alleged a 2000 election theft and also had several dozen opportunities in court to show his evidence, but could produce nothing.
Recall too that in the 2016 primaries, Donald was publicly complaining about a stolen vote in the IA caucus, and speculated openly about whether the Nov 2016 election would be stolen.
Ds were wrong of course about 2016 -- that is, how it was stolen. Nothing to do with the Rooskies. No evidence for this shown in 6 yrs. Collossal waste of time and dangerously so. But -- and it's only my suspicion; I don't assert it as fact -- I suspect Donald quietly stole the 2016 election, the angle Ds should have been aggressively investigating at least in private with professional investigators. Same way he tried to undo the 2020 election -- by contacting state and local election officials in the key states of WI, MI and PN to get them to arrange by various means, including before the election, to ensure he would prevail in those states.
I can't prove it though, so it's only my speculation. Partly triggered by the brazen way Donald went about trying to undo Biden's election. It all had the spectacularly bold appearance of not being Donald's first time trying to illegally alter an election behind the scenes.
Sqwauk about real election fraud when you lose,
shut up when you win by election fraud. Over and over.
sigh...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Not sure "they" ever squawk about
real election fraud, regardless if they win or lose. To do so would reveal/highlight the extent of voter disenfranchisement and voter suppression, any effective modern version of ballot box stuffing, and vote counting irregularities. The first two may be the most robust. Inadvertently revealed in GA 2020 with the COVID-19 mail-in ballot process. Took away the GOP and Trump advantage through voter disenfranchisement and suppression. (Not that I suspect GA 2016 would have had a different outcome with vote by mail.)
Something hinky happened in FL 2020, but nobody is interested enough to bother looking into that one; so, I haven't a clue on that. Otherwise, 2020 was the least fraudulent general election in many decades.
FL 2000 was the clearest recent instance of election fraud that changed the outcome. As the evidence for most of the usual methods began surfacing, the Democratic Party chose to accept the SCOTUS decision and move on.
I knew a billionaire who bragged
Retired O'Connor said she regretted that opinion. Like, too little, too late.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
He wasn't alone --
Mega-bucks quickly rolled into the Bush coffers to fight the recount. Gore, and not the first time in that election cycle, had difficulty raising recount funds. Is it two or three of the Bush recount hires now sit on the SC?
Is O'Connor's regret because it was one of the worst SC decisions in over two hundred years or because it revealed that she's not only a partisan hack but willingly put her personal agenda into a decision? (She wanted to retire to spend more time with her ill husband, but would only retire under a GOP administration.)
John Roberts
Things worked out really well for him.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Yes that happens,
Going back to 1960 w Nixon and the GOP quietly contesting that race in 11 states including IL. After a review, the results changed in only one state -- Hawaii, where the slim lead for Nixon changed to a victory for JFK after a recount. In IL, the heavily R election commission found no evidence of major shenanigans sufficient to change the outcome. Nixon, like Trump, was a Sore Loser, period. His behind the scenes efforts in 1968 in arranging to thwart Johnson's VN peace talks were his way of getting even.
When the Ds experience true election theft by Rs, in 1968, 1980 and 2000, and possibly 2004, they passively accept the results and throw in the towel, usually erring on the side of doing so too quickly. While there was plenty of agitated grumbling by D voters in 2000, their leaders appeared less interested in determining what happened and more interested in showing everyone what gracious losers they are. Gore in 2000 having prematurely conceded had to retract then later was remarkably accepting of the SupCt intervention. Kerry in 2004, against the wishes of his VP pick and others, gave a quick concession despite troubling evidence of early morning hours sudden massive shifting of votes to W. It doesn't count that more than a year later, in private, Kerry allowed that he thought the Rs had stolen it. He missed the chance to uncover that evidence and hold Rs accountable, as with 1968.