@NYCVG

Do you or does anybody here recall a few weeks or months ago a report that Trump had refused an additional shipment from Pfizer? I speculated, cynically, to myself, that Pfizer probably refused to pay him a kickback or laud him publicly.

Not all the details behind it, but a report came out a few weeks ago on it. Rising covered it.

Can’t find it but here’s a few

Hope this helps.

#1 #1 your pointing this out, snoopydawg. The lack of PPE and syringes and personnel and locations are all significant. and disgraceful. And the hospitals taken down to build luxury condos that stand 1/2 empty and unsold. Don't get me started.

My outrage is focused right now on the lack of the vaccine itself. And my possibly ridiculous idea about how this happened.

Do you or does anybody here recall a few weeks or months ago a report that Trump had refused an additional shipment from Pfizer? I speculated, cynically, to myself, that Pfizer probably refused to pay him a kickback or laud him publicly.

The news reported that the additional vaccine had gone to other countries.

Now we have to do without and wait helplessly while Biden delivers promises he cannot keep. Not more vaccine soon enough.

I hope I'm wrong in all of this.

@Pluto's Republic

Was afraid that I was being too cautious in my old age.

I closely follow the science of the Pandemic, although I have not been writing about it. My area of interest is prevention and first aid for exposure. I also look at medicines and other substances that have been tested in trials with SARS-CoV-2 and are shown to block infections. The for profit corporations that guide the direction of medical research in the world have made one disastrous decision after another, in my view.

Stopping the pandemic — with or without a vaccine — was always considered possible.

Some countries were successful, some failed. The problem is that all countries must succeed in halting it — or none will.

The failures in containing the virus, in some cases, were so profound that, to me, that the outcomes looked to be manipulated by entities with different motives. Certainly, it was a terrible time to double down on a trade war with China and slap economic sanctions on China. It was a bigger mistake to start conspiracy theories that blame China for the Pandemic, because most nations have intelligence that tells them otherwise. The fact is, US Intelligence briefed Trump on the pandemic suspiciously early — even before China heard about it.

Although none of this really matters now.

What is important, was that people were deliberately misinformed about the pandemic and about their vulnerabilities. One thing that no one told them was, there is a hard deadline for stopping the spread of the pandemic. Now, it could be too late. There is a theory about a Global Viral Load that says when the viral infection reaches a specific mass, it will all spontaneously mutate into forms that are beyond the reach of our medical intervention. That's what the initial panic we saw among doctors at the White House was really about. They knew the risks.

Back to the corporations guiding medical research, the worst mistake they made was to suppress research into treatments and preventatives, and to go all in on vaccines. Humans have never been able to develop a vaccine for a corona virus, after a century of trying. Humans have never developed vaccine based on mRNA technology, even thought the technology has been around for thirty years. But thanks to Project Warp Speed and Donald Trump, and all the people who have resigned from the Department of Health, we now have two mRNA vaccines! In record time!

Last night there were also news dumps about the state of the pandemic.

Problematic News about Vaccines:

The details are coming back.... It seems that 23 Norwegians died after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Norway officials say the people who died were old anyway, so they are not too concerned. Norway is continuing the vaccination program, without pause.

Meanwhile, numerous Chinese medical specialists are calling for a suspension of COVID-19 vaccination campaigns that use mRNA-based vaccines, such as those produced by Pfizer and BioNTech, especially among senior citizens. Wuhan University virologist Professor Dr Yang Zhanqiu said that if the deaths were indeed caused by the Pfizer vaccine, it would indicate that the mRNA vaccines are not as good as was previously thought. The world should stop using the American Pfizer vaccine that was promoted by the Trump administration, as the mRNA technology was not proved to be safe enough for large scale immunization. The vaccine expert went on to warn against people over 80 receiving any COVID-19 vaccines, citing their weakened immune systems. Others are voicing concerns about the method being too novel to be used safely.

Keep in mind, a lot of what is posted above are opinions. Keep in mind also, that there are several good vaccines out there. Ask the FDA to approve them.

Theres more....

— #2

@Pluto's Republic

All of it.

One thing that no one told them was, there is a hard deadline for stopping the spread of the pandemic. Now, it could be too late. There is a theory about a Global Viral Load that says when the viral infection reaches a specific mass, it will all spontaneously mutate into forms that are beyond the reach of our medical intervention. That's what the initial panic we saw among doctors at the White House was really about. They knew the risks.

I believe that time has gone for the world to get a handle on the pandemic too. Of course it’s going to mutate because most of them do given enough time. And doing it now just when there is a vaccine could be very bad if the virus mutates out of the vaccines range. Then what? An out of control pandemic where people will be triaged and only certain people can be saved. Maybe by then we will start hearing about preventative measures we should have been doing all along. But $$$ was more important than lives.

This is what I have always thought because of my background in medicine and my years in the laboratory.

Humans have never been able to develop a vaccine for a corona virus, after a century of trying. Humans have never developed vaccine based on mRNA technology, even thought the technology has been around for thirty years. But thanks to Project Warp Speed and Donald Trump, and all the people who have resigned from the Department of Health, we now have two mRNA vaccines! In record time!

(my bold)

I read about this today.

Meanwhile, numerous Chinese medical specialists are calling for a suspension of COVID-19 vaccination campaigns that use mRNA-based vaccines, such as those produced by Pfizer and BioNTech,

On top of the Norwegian deaths there have been others for people who had no allergies and were healthy. Many Israelis had their faces paralyzed as did 3 people in the original study. Many of them also got Covid after their vaccinations. Bell’s palsy is one of the more serious side effects. Or contraindications for the 2nd dose. 3 congress members were just days away from receiving their 2nd dose when they got exposed to it and they have tested positive and 2 have symptoms. But it’s not just the quickness of making the vaccine, it’s that Bill Gates is connected to BioNTech which he bought into right after it was formed in 2009. He is connected to AstraZinika too.

I can’t wait till more...

I closely follow the science of the Pandemic, although I have not been writing about it. My area of interest is prevention and first aid for exposure. I also look at medicines and other substances that have been tested in trials with SARS-CoV-2 and are shown to block infections. The for profit corporations that guide the direction of medical research in the world have made one disastrous decision after another, in my view.

Stopping the pandemic — with or without a vaccine — was always considered possible.

Some countries were successful, some failed. The problem is that all countries must succeed in halting it — or none will.

The failures in containing the virus, in some cases, were so profound that, to me, that the outcomes looked to be manipulated by entities with different motives. Certainly, it was a terrible time to double down on a trade war with China and slap economic sanctions on China. It was a bigger mistake to start conspiracy theories that blame China for the Pandemic, because most nations have intelligence that tells them otherwise. The fact is, US Intelligence briefed Trump on the pandemic suspiciously early — even before China heard about it.

Although none of this really matters now.

What is important, was that people were deliberately misinformed about the pandemic and about their vulnerabilities. One thing that no one told them was, there is a hard deadline for stopping the spread of the pandemic. Now, it could be too late. There is a theory about a Global Viral Load that says when the viral infection reaches a specific mass, it will all spontaneously mutate into forms that are beyond the reach of our medical intervention. That's what the initial panic we saw among doctors at the White House was really about. They knew the risks.

Back to the corporations guiding medical research, the worst mistake they made was to suppress research into treatments and preventatives, and to go all in on vaccines. Humans have never been able to develop a vaccine for a corona virus, after a century of trying. Humans have never developed vaccine based on mRNA technology, even thought the technology has been around for thirty years. But thanks to Project Warp Speed and Donald Trump, and all the people who have resigned from the Department of Health, we now have two mRNA vaccines! In record time!

Last night there were also news dumps about the state of the pandemic.

Problematic News about Vaccines:

The details are coming back.... It seems that 23 Norwegians died after receiving their first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Norway officials say the people who died were old anyway, so they are not too concerned. Norway is continuing the vaccination program, without pause.

Meanwhile, numerous Chinese medical specialists are calling for a suspension of COVID-19 vaccination campaigns that use mRNA-based vaccines, such as those produced by Pfizer and BioNTech, especially among senior citizens. Wuhan University virologist Professor Dr Yang Zhanqiu said that if the deaths were indeed caused by the Pfizer vaccine, it would indicate that the mRNA vaccines are not as good as was previously thought. The world should stop using the American Pfizer vaccine that was promoted by the Trump administration, as the mRNA technology was not proved to be safe enough for large scale immunization. The vaccine expert went on to warn against people over 80 receiving any COVID-19 vaccines, citing their weakened immune systems. Others are voicing concerns about the method being too novel to be used safely.

Keep in mind, a lot of what is posted above are opinions. Keep in mind also, that there are several good vaccines out there. Ask the FDA to approve them.

Theres more....

— #2

@snoopydawg exactly!

#4

combined with a "just in time" inventory management ideology that infects our manufacturing base C suites across the nation.

But this is how many hospitals staff their health care workers. Just in time to get an extra nurse on shift or lab or therapists, etc. And try not to get sick at night because the hospital is basically shutdown. I remember only having a few lab techs working for the whole hospital. Or in some cases just one person does the night shift. All departments.

At best, again imho, it's gross dereliction of duty, and since the body count is so outrageous, it's a felony level offense.

He’s not alone in causing so many deaths. NYC and California are run by democrats and look at how badly they screwed up. But congress owns a lot of it too. They knew that Trump was ignoring the dangers of the epidemic, but they stayed just as quiet as Trump did. What were they told in that meeting when 3 people came out of it and immediately sold some stock? Hoefler, Loefler Purdue and Feinstein have all gotten away with it. Love this word: Hoefler.

And every death from being kicked out of their home because congress did not provide support after telling people to stay home should be prosecuted. But they have gotten away with killing millions so I won’t hold my breath.

@NYCVG

They talk about how Pfizer did get government funding from the US and Germany and they had a $2 billion guarantee that the government would buy their vaccine. Their funding relies on government money for R@D research and then they get to keep all the profits from things we helped them make. And yes they want to privatize everything they can. Congress is on board with them too.

Just saw that a fire department in a big city had to have a fundraiser to buy a freezer for the vaccines. In the richest country in the world. Funny how the military never needs a fundraiser to buy planes that don’t fly.

#4 #1.1.1 Pfizer until June! A Million thanks to snoopydawg for this research.

Watched Rising and then David Muir. OMG.

My worst fears about Trump seem to be real.

What does the impeached and soon-to-be-gone president care. some patriot.#4

@The Voice In the Wilderness

It was a happy place with mostly cheerful residents.

The hospital I worked at was run by the catholic nuns since the 40's, but the members started getting old and retiring and so it was sold to the 1st company in the 80's. Before it was sold the staff seemed like part of one big family and that showed in how well patients were treated. After it was sold that changed for all departments. Instead of partying with people from all departments we separated into groups by where our departments were. Point your hand out and close the thumb. This is how the hospital was laid out. The wings were patients were are down each finger. Medical and the coronary ICU was in the last finger farthest from your wrist. Medical ICU was at the end of #3.

The laboratory, respiratory therapy, X-ray and the emergency department were all down at the wrist far away from the patients. Imagine how long it took for people to respond to codes down at the bottom of #1. They got there all tired and out of breath and gawd forbid you forgot something in the lab that’s needed right damn now. Anyway that’s why we broke into groups. The morale went down immediately. This keeps happening everywhere. It’s sad. No loyalty to companies anymore.

#4
It used to belong to the Catholic Church. It was a happy place with mostly cheerful residents. A sitting room with a big fish tank. another with an aviary. A large dining room that family could share meals with their loved one for a $5 fee. Now it's part of a corporation. everything gone. no more cafeteria. All meals in their bed. Sullen or defeated faces last time I was in their which was a long time ago. someone stole his jacket that my wife bought him, bit I think the rottenest part is someone stole his Vietnam Veteran cap.
Our billionaire Governor won't let anyone in to visit, citing covid concerns. except covid has already run through. bob got it. his roommate got it. lots of them got it. Either f4rom staff or the unmasked construction workers running in and out, converting the amenities and cafeteria into offices and more resdent rooms. got to keep those profits up. I wonder if Pritzker is an investor.