Monday OT: Sept 7 is Neither Snow Nor Rain Day

August 31 is day 251 of the Gregorian Calendar year,
Setting Orange, Bureaucracy 31, 3186 YOLD (Discordian)
And let us not forget 13.0.7.14.17 mlc (the Mayan Long Count)

US Post Office Marshfield VT 05658

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Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.

US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 - 
The Congress shall have the power ... To establish Post Offices and post Roads;  (Clauses 1 & 7) 
This has been interpreted quite broadly as to the powers and authority cnveyed to Congress and, indirectly, to the post office itself. However, it has also been ruled that it does not give the Post Office a monopoly on mail (and package) delivery.

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On this day in history:

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0878 – Louis the Stammerer was crowned as king of West Francia 

1776 – According to American colonial reports, Ezra Lee made the world's first submarine attack in the Turtle, attempting to attach a time bomb to the hull of HMS Eagle in New York Harbor (no British records of this attack exist).
1812 – The Battle of Borodino, the bloodiest battle of the Napoleonic Wars, was fought near Moscow.
1857 – Mormon settlers slaughtered most members of peaceful, emigrant wagon train in the Mountain Meadows massacre.
1860 – Giuseppe Garibaldi entered Naples.
1901 – The Boxer Rebellion in Qing dynasty (modern-day China) officially ended with the signing of the Boxer Protocol.
1906 – Alberto Santos-Dumont flew his 14-bis aircraft at Bagatelle, France for the first time successfully.
1916 – US federal employees won the right to Workers' compensation by Federal Employers Liability Act (39 Stat. 742; 5 U.S.C. 751)
1936 – The last thylacine, a carnivorous marsupial named Benjamin, died alone in its cage at the Hobart Zoo in Tasmania.
1965 – US Marines and South Vietnamese forces started Operation Piranha during which the Marines blew up a Vietnamese field hospital situated in a cave, claiming that some of the occupants had returned fire when they attacked and invaded it.
1977 – The Torrijos–Carter Treaties between Panama and the United States on the status of the Panama Canal were signed. The United States agrees to transfer control of the canal to Panama at the end of the 20th century.  This infamously led to the US invasion of Panama in 1989  under Bush I (CIA Bush) to remind them who was really in control.
1979 – The Chrysler Corporation asked the United States government for US$1.5 billion to avoid bankruptcy.
2005 – Egypt held its first-ever multi-party presidential election.
2008 – The US government took control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
2017 – Equifax announced a cyber-crime identity theft event potentially impacting approximately 1451/2 million U.S. consumers.

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Born this day in:

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.
~~ Edith Sitwell

1705 – Matthäus Günther, painter
1707 – Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon, mathematician, cosmologist, and author
1726 – François-André Danican Philidor, chess player and composer
1740 – Johan Tobias Sergel, sculptor and illustrator
1777 – Heinrich Stölzel, horn player and composer (
1791 – Giuseppe Gioachino Belli, poet and author
1795 – John William Polidori, physician and author
1860 – Grandma Moses, painter
1887 – Edith Sitwell, poet and critic
1900 – Taylor Caldwell, author
1903 – Margaret Landon, missionary and author
1903 – Dorothy Marie Donnelly, poet and author
1904 – C. B. Colby,  author
1908 – Max Kaminsky, trumpet player and bandleader
1912 – David Packard, engineer and businessman, friend of Hewlett
1914 – Graeme Bell, pianist and composer
1914 – James Van Allen, physicist and philosopher
 
1915 – Kiyosi Itô, mathematician and academic
1917 – John Cornforth, chemist and academic,
1917 – Jacob Lawrence, painter and educator
1923 – Nancy Keesing, author and poet (
1930 – Sonny Rollins, saxophonist and composer
1934 – Mary Bauermeister, painter and illustrator
1934 – Little Milton, singer and guitarist
1936 – Buddy Holly, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1939 – Latimore, singer, songwriter, and pianist
1947 – Gloria Gaynor, singer and songwriter
1951 – Chrissie Hynde, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1951 – Morris Albert, singer and songwriter
1951 – Mark Isham, trumpet player and composer
1953 – Benmont Tench, keyboardist and songwriter
1956 – Michael Feinstein, singer and pianist
1956 – Diane Warren, songwriter
1957 – Jermaine Stewart, singer, songwriter, and dancer
1960 – Brad Houser, bass player
1961 – LeRoi Moore, saxophonist and songwriter
1961 – Jean-Yves Thibaudet, French pianist
1962 – Jennifer Egan, novelist and short story writer
1971 – Gene Pritsker, composer
1979 – Owen Pallett, singer, songwriter, and keyboard player

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Died this day in:

I'll sleep when I'm dead
~~ Warren Zevon

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1685 – William Carpenter, colonist, co-founded Rhode Island and Providence Plantations 
1833 – Hannah More, poet, playwright, and philanthropist
1881 – Sidney Lanier, poet and academic
1892  – John Greenleaf Whittier, poet and activist
1942 – Cecilia Beaux,  painter and academic
1949 – José Clemente Orozco, painter and illustrator
1951 – John French Sloan,  painter and etcher
1978 – Keith Moon, drummer 
1978 – Charles Williams, composer and conductor
1979 – I. A. Richards, literary critic and rhetorician
1981 – Christy Brown, author, poet, and painter
1990 – A. J. P. Taylor, historian and journalist (
1991 – Edwin McMillan, physicist and chemist,
2003 – Warren Zevon,  singer, songwriter, and musician
2010 – Barbara Holland, author
2015 – Guillermo Rubalcaba, pianist, composer, and bandleader

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Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
Grandma Moses Day
Salami Day
National Beer Lovers Day
National Neither Snow Nor Rain Day

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Music goes here, iirc, well, With apologies Wink

Max Kaminsky

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Sonny Rollins

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Little Milton

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Buddy Holly

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Latimore

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Gloria Gaynor

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Chrissie Hynde

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Mark Isham

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Benmont Tench

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LeRoi Moore

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Keith Moon

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Warren Zevon

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 Guillermo Rubalcaba
 

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Lookout's picture

We're having a couple of friends over...gathering outside at the camphouse. First company we've had since Feb. Having drinks and snacks.

Always like the folk art of Grandma Moses
https://www.biography.com/artist/grandma-moses
Screenshot_2020-09-07 Grandma Moses - Shelburne Museum.png

As to Labor day

The Central Labor Union of New York first proposed a Labor Day — with a September date — in 1882. Other labor activists, though, pushed for May. May 1 became a politically charged date — it was the date in 1886 that the American Federation of Labor had set as a deadline for adoption of an eight-hour day, and it was close to the date of the bloody Haymarket Riot for labor rights on May 4, 1886, in Chicago. (If you’re not familiar with that, then you need to read up some more on American history.) It was precisely because of the political connotations with May 1 that President Grover Cleveland decided a September date for Labor Day was a more palatable option — and perhaps why Americans today see Labor Day as a three-day holiday weekend and not a call for marching in the streets. Cleveland was fine with appeasing workers who might also be voters, but he didn’t want to give credence to a labor movement that was seen then as a front for socialists and anarchists.

The whole essay is interesting
https://roanoke.com/opinion/editorial/editorial-labor-day-isnt-what-it-u...

So y'all have a good one!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

And snacks will you be having?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

With olives and cream cheese celery, pimiento cheese lettuce leaves, cauliflower crust pizza, and no sugar no wheat sweet tater treats.

Plus a nice french wine which I drank but others stuck with the G and T.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

enhydra lutris's picture

@Lookout

history. The choice of the date and Cleveland's reasoning behind it is why I tend to try to remember to put it in scare quotes or label it as USA Labor Day since it was very much anti-labor, intended to deflect and distract from labor organizing and solidarity.

Enjoy your party and party safely. Be well and have a good one

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@Lookout and his daughter. She is a nurse. We kept our distance.
Last week, the county judge stopped by to sit on the patio and have a couple of beers. He and his wife had COVID and he is careful to keep his distance.
Hope it is a fun gathering for you all.

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If Trump pardons Snowden he will have my vote

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1302451757369368576

The Labor Day graph that says it all

“You are not allowed to film!”

Hope everyone’s enjoying their nice long weekend and staying healthy and safe, as Earth hurtles headlong through the heavens towards her autumnal equinox …

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@lotlizard
near everywhere except the US where the date was specifically chosen to deflect and detract from labor solidarity and organizing as represented by May 1. I would love to spend it some year in someplace like Spain or Italy.

be well and have a good one

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@lotlizard

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@lotlizard surprised me. I understand about not filming faces. But the rest surprised me. I had not known about that. I live in the Portland metro area and I have tried to keep up with what is going on. The protesters discussed in the article have been successful in the sense of keeping some of their activities from the public.

However, I think the article itself is misleading in a way. There seem to be two groups of protesters. The protest rallies scattered around the city have been peaceful. Many or most of the downtown protests early in the evening have also been peaceful. But later in the evening, after a lot of activists have headed home, the fire setting and so on starts. I think the peaceful daytime protest rallies around the city, and in downtown are not being covered, or given very little coverage. And there have been many of those. The article gives the impression that all of these protesters are violent, and that is not true.

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Woke up this morning with a bit of a hangover. But since I work for myself these days there’s no calling in sick. Even so, It’ll be the best Labor Day I’ve spent in recent memory. So, here’s to the boss who fired me 3 weeks and 4 days ago. Living well really is the best revenge.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz
"free" on this day does have its rewards, regardless of the uncertainty and self-imposed discomforts, however.

be well and have a great one.

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I rely on my post office. I live in a rural area with no home mail delivery, so I would be SOL without my PO, although I'm confident they would come up with a miserable alternative!

My son and his wife spent a few days with us. Had a marvelous time but ate too much and now must do a 24 hour fast to get myself back on track, lol!

Freeze coming tomorrow night and Wednesday night. We will have to cover all flowering plants and those with fruit! It's going to be a race to beat the freeze. Hope it works out for us.

Enjoy the day! Pleasantry

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@Raggedy Ann @Raggedy Ann
on the PO and was once sufficiently rural that I had to go to General Delivery nearest town. Wink Have friends who still get the "rural delivery" with a mailbox on a post along the road too.

Sorry about the incoming freeze. We don't generally get them, maybe one or two "heavy frost" warnings with corresponding rush to cover everything we can, set out fans and low voltage lights, etc. Good luck.

be well and have a good one.

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And the lockdown only makes it worse.
Future Tucson will likely deal with more days of extreme heat
At 121 degrees, Woodland Hills hits all-time high temperature for L.A. County \
The Mountain Meadows Massacre began on Sept.7, it ended on 9/11.
The immigrant wagon train was surrounded and besieged for 4 days before the actual killings took place.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

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@Azazello
Mountain Meadows Massacre. Heat is a thing here too, 3rd straight day over 100, second such heat wave, most unusual.

be well and have a good one.

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@Azazello I would be obsessed with the weather too. We’ve had an unusually hot summer, but not like that, thankfully.

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@Granma
He lives in Hillsboro. I don't know. We're both 66 now and a move at this age would be quite an ordeal. Lots of factors involved; comparative housing costs, my absolute hatred of cloudy days and cold winters, etc. We may end up putting in air conditioning though.

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@Azazello

my absolute hatred of cloudy days and cold winters, etc.

There's a reason they're called The Ducks.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris
bein' desert dwellers and all. But the Kid says it's not really rain as we know it.
It's more like a constant drizzle. Would our shoes rot, would my pocket-knives and tools rust, do cars rust out in just a few years ?

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@Azazello
wear shoes after your feet get webbed. Rust, mold and mildew are concerns and even oreso if you are coastal. Unlike in the desert, organic matter left outside will begin to decompose.

be well and have a good one

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@Azazello for people who can’t deal with cloudy days.

You don’t have AC with that kind of heat? You have a swamp cooler maybe?

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@Granma
Heretofore, that is, for my entire life up until now, the swamp cooler has been adequate.
In fact, I always used to say that if you can't make it with just a swamp cooler, maybe the desert isn't for you. Climate change is forcing me to re-think my position.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

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@Anja Geitz @Azazello

Mountain Meadows Massacre. It really was terrible.

The Baker-Fancher Party was a prosperous group heading for Southern California. They entered the Utah Territory on their way there. Their intent was to re-supply in Salt Lake City, but the Mormon’s would not sell to them. Some of the Mormons encouraged them to pass through the southern part of Utah and one man suggested they head to Mountain Meadows near his land where there was good pasture.

The party arrived at the meadows and set up camp. They were then set upon by the Utah militia disguised as Paiutes apparently assisted by a few members of the tribe. The travelers were able to hold them off at first, butof course under siege they ran low on water and food. The militia began to fear that the travelers had recognized their attackers were not Native Americans, but were in fact Mormons. Therefore, militia approached under flag of truce and lured them out of camp with promises of water and food, and then turned on them. They massacred all but the children 7 years old and younger, who were “taken in” by local families. Their belongings including cattle were sold off.

The account is set against a background of suspicion of the US government as federal troops were being sent in by President Buchanan. Rumors that the travelers had poisoned a spring arose even though such an act was highly unlikely. Many reasons were given as to motive, but the wealth of the party seems to most likely to me. What goods were not taken by the Paiutes and militia members were sold and the money went to the LDS funds.

The children were eventually returned to family in Arkansas by the US Army and one man was finally arrested, tried and executed after the end of the Civil War. I find the whole thing horrible.

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@Lily O Lady
I wrote a piece about it at another website.

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@Azazello

heard of the incident before but nowadays that doesn’t mean I didn’t. Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my mind the most.

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@Lily O Lady

detail to the MMM. It was indeed a very ugly thing.

be well and have a good one

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Yeast seems to be available again. If not in your part of the country, and you need some, pm me and I’ll send some to you. I think supply managed to catch up with demand when summer heat discouraged home baking.

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@Granma

good bread flour is scarce again - my wife just ordered some from Bob's because KA was out and back-ordered.

be well and have a good one.

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@enhydra lutris I’ll make a trip to Bob’s soon I guess. Because of online school, lots of classes being eliminated. I promised my grandson I would teach him to cook and bake bread. It made him happy. Music and other things are out but this helps some of his disappointment.

It is hard for the kids, particularly the ones whose families have done their part in terms of distancing, staying home, etc. They have given up a lot and when you are young, a year or two is a long, long time. We don’t have anything to give them to replace what they are missing, except life and health maybe, and the young take those for granted I think.

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@lotlizard
vice-versa) sort of redundant?

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris  
like these (who start with “adbusting,” practicing culture jamming on posters and billboards, and go on from there to other forms of action) seem to be unwilling to cede the word “libertarian” (along with the root concept of liberty) to the Right without a fight.

I was looking to see if Chaos Computer Club’s Dresden chapter (CCC DD ==> c3d2.de) had any info about SDR (software defined radio) and saw the link to those anarchists and their “Libertäre Tage” (= “Libertarian Days”), piquing my curiosity. I’ve half a mind to drop by to see what I can see.

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Sure, Kamala, you are going to be the bestest VP in history and bring the justice system up to date and start going after the elite class that commit crimes. I am sure this means that you and Joe will look back at the bank fraud that led to the Great Recession. Right?

Of course everyone is eating this shit up because .... reasons and Russia won't be telling the president what to do anymore.

Anyone who has looked at Kamala's history of prosecuting the lower class whilst letting people like Mnuching and the catholic church off for their crimes.

Thanks again, Tulsi for exposing the rot at the core of Kamala Harris. At least we had her dropping out because the people rejected her and the only way she can become VP is from rigging the primary for her and Joe. There better be an asterisk after her name in the history books for that.

The fools who are celebrating the number of heinous republicans who are endorsing Biden should pull their heads out of their $%%#! and see how it highlights how dems are moving further right to compete against Trump. That Biden didn't reject Snyder's endorsement is beyond belief.

Snyder poisoned a generation of kids who will have learning disabilities as well as other health issues and he got away with it. If it was Assad or Maduro who did that we'd be overthrowing them as we speak. Why the hell is the world silent on this? AND F YOU OBAMA for throwing the water in their faces.

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@snoopydawg
the JD clip.

be well and have a good one.

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