"Obama is a War Criminal!", and so IS Trump

The following is a link to a transcript of a speech given by Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He’s the senior professor at the College of Law having taught there for 41 years and attended Harvard Law School, the same as war criminal Barack Obama.

It’s not a long speech, more like some prepared remarks. He explains how he was initially “fairly disposed toward Obama” but learned quickly like many of us that Obama was just a Big Fat Liar, and a war criminal to boot. His remarks were evidently in response to the University of Illinois giving Obama an “ethics in government” award (at least it's not another Nobel prize). He doesn’t mince words.

“The University of Illinois is giving him an “ethics in government” award. This is a sick joke and a demented fraud! The University of Illinois, for its own typical bootlicking reasons, wants to whitewash all of Obama’s international crimes. Obama should be sitting in a jail cell in The Hague with the International Criminal Court and not here getting some bogus “ethics in government” award from the bootlickers of the University of Illinois campus bigwigs."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50263.htm

He goes on the say he’s hardly alone in his sentiments (Chomsky, Unger, etc.) and that Trump is simply continuing the same policies put in place under Obama and Bush. But, he says, Obama definitely knows better (as opposed to Trump who knows only himself) because “He’s a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard Law School just like I am. Obama has abandoned and betrayed every known Principle of the Rule of Law that I ever learned at Harvard Law School including the United States Constitution which he doesn’t give diddly-squat about. “

Just to be clear, he states:

“Obama is a monster! He’s a criminal! As I said he should be in jail, not getting some bogus “ethics” award from the bootlickers at the University of Illinois administration.”

Right on, Francis.

He goes on to list some of Obama’s war crimes including his “genocidal work” in Afghanistan, and his wars in Libya, Syria and Yemen. For those that know the truth about U.S. imperialism it’s not new nor a surprise (always an enlightening read however). But shout it from the rooftops Professor, the more the merrier as they say in antiwar land.

Which brings me to Trump. I’ve been concerned about all the talk of the deep state, the democratic party and evidently the lizard people as well all wanting to take down Trump. My concern isn't for Trump. His supporters who dig in even deeper (THEY hate HIM so HE must be on OUR side!) and many others, including a segment of the left, are quite concerned about our “democracy” and our “constitutional process” being damaged beyond repair (FUBAR) because of this elected and unelected cabal trying to prevent him from doing his duties and possibly remove (a bona fide war criminal) him from office.

The most common refrain is that they’re preventing Trump from seeking peace (yes, I'm exaggerating) with North Korea, Russia and Syria, like that’s some kind of fact or something and that it will result in World War III or worse. All of this conjecture on what Trump would or wouldn't do is all based on Trump’s own words (as opposed to what he's actually done), and what exactly IS Trump boys and girls? That’s right, a Big Fat Liar just like Obama (and a war criminal to boot).

Here's Paul Craig Roberts:

"This plot against Trump is dangerous to life on earth and demands that the governments and peoples of the world act now to expose this plot and to bring it to an end before it kills us all."

In other words,

"The reason that America is at risk is that the CIA and the presstitute media have put America—and Europe—at risk by frustrating President Trump’s intention to reduce the dangerous level of tensions between the two major nuclear powers."

Regardless of what Trump would or wouldn't do without parts of the ruling class affecting him, what he has done is without question. The fact is that Trump is also a war criminal like his predecessors. It's too fucking late, he not only should be removed from the office of the president like yesterday, he should be put on trial and sentenced to life in prison for his crimes. Regardless of his meetings with Kim and Putin and his interminable bullshit tweets, Trump has been Commander in Chief (CINC) of the U.S. imperialist military machine for over a year and a half and is responsible for the war crimes conducted under his command, of which there are many. It's that simple. It has to be that simple, doesn't it?

So all this talk about Trump being stopped from doing this or that regarding foreign policies is troubling to me because he’s already done enough to justify throwing him in prison alongside Obama and Bush and many, many others, and throwing away the fucking key. No one talks about THAT.

Those attempting to defend Trump against the deep state seem like they’re accepting Trump’s war crimes because they think, based on Trump’s own words (um, he’s a fucking liar) that he wants some kind of peace with Russia, North Korea and Outer Space (you know that's next don't you?) but the deep state won’t let him, and those trying to stop him are out to start absolute chaos. The last part certainly is true but that doesn't change what Trump has done while in office. Since when do words from a lying billionaire cancel out the murdering of innocent children?

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/18/adults-white-house-try...

It all seems so ass backward, which of course is the way it is now. War is peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength and Donald Trump, the war criminal, is our only hope for "Peace".

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Big Al's picture

what are we going to do about it?"

"Every war being fought today is illegal. Every action taken to carry out these wars is a war crime."

https://popularresistance.org/all-wars-are-illegal-so-what-do-we-do-abou...

Obviously, what to do about it has to include holding those who wage war, i.e., our own fucking government and those that control it, accountable. We should start with our presidents and congressional representatives.

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lotlizard's picture

for the professor’s principled and unwavering support of Hawaiʻi and the Hawaiian people in international jurisprudence.

http://www.ihraam.org/HawaiiProject.html

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mimi's picture

disappoint my latest request to you to bitch about serious matters like war criminals. Thanks.
Smile

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Big Al's picture

@mimi glad to accommodate. It's still quite amazing there isn't a major push from the people to end the murderous mayhem. Maybe it's building.

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gulfgal98's picture

We cannot let Congress off the hook for the out of control militarism and imperialism that is taking place all over the world. Only Congress has the authority to declare war and yet Congress has abdicated that authority while continuing to pass obscene budgets for war making. The last DoD budget is case in point wherein Congress actually gave Trump a larger budget than requested! And zero Democrats voted against it.

The entire value system in this country is skewed.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

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@gulfgal98 Unless you consider endless wealth and power a value system. When the founding pigs founded 'Murica, they weren't building a democracy. They were building an empire. Why else do you think the US has been at war for its entire existence?

And now that empire, and capitalism along with it, are in yet another state of decay. But the two-party plebs would rather argue over which 'libtard' or 'trumptard' token policies caused this shit.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

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@The Aspie Corner for enlightening me once again.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

for this BA. So many people, too much koolaid. Bad combo.

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

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Clinton came in at the height of Reagan mania giving him a far-fetched and feeble pass for being a liar and a crook. Bush was plain stupid. Trump even dumber than Bush. Obama has no excuse lame or otherwise. He won with a landslide vote and a clear majority for change. He was smart and knew better. Of all the roaches to hold office in the last 50 years, Obama is the slimiest of them all. When Michael Moore, Maher, and other Hillbamabots like them praise Obama, it makes me want to barf.

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gulfgal98's picture

There seems to be an intimation that some of us are not discussing serious topics. Here is my perspective. We can bitch and gripe about it all, but at some point we have to step up.

I spent every Saturday for four and a half years on the ground with a local Peace vigil and completely echo Big Al's sentiments. What my personal experience taught me is that most people I met, regardless of political self identification, agree that we must end all these wars, but are at a loss as how to do that. The only way I could see doing something, anything, was to participate in the Peace vigil and educate people about these wars. That Peace vigil lasted for 13 and a half years, of which I spent the last four and half years participating. It finally folded due to age and health issues of the few remaining participants.

I have written here about how the obscene amounts of money spent on the military (bases in nearly every country in the world) and on these wars is destroying our country from within. We have money for bombs but not to help our own citizens.

I wrote a lengthy series of seventeen essays on neoliberalism and how that economic philosophy goes hand in hand with our nation's imperialism. I tried to write several essays about the deep state and shadow government which play a distinct part in our imperialistic wars. Finally, I just got tired of trying to do the heavy research that was required to tackle these complex subjects. And it seemed to me as though most people were not making the connections I was trying to write about.

So the question is: Is it a chicken and egg thing or is it a vicious circle? I do not know for sure, but I do know that wars will continue escalate regardless of whether or not we jail Bush, Obama, Trump or any other political figure for war crimes unless the deep state is also dismantled. Wars are being waged to enrich the oligarchs and big corporations and they will always find bought off and/or patsy politicians to do their bidding. There is big money to be made here. Until the profit motive is taken out of war, they will find a way to continue making war and resource theft.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

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@gulfgal98 Our local peace vigil is 15 years in the making. Every Sunday, for all these years, displaying peaceful resistance. We report the weekly casualties, and each has a reading or story to share. We stick together because there seems to be nothing else to do against the machine. Holding signs and banners so that others may see our plight. The 'authorities' have yet to shut us down, which may come to pass. Silly little liberties like freedom of speech and the right to assembly are quickly going the way of the Dodo, it appears. I only wish more people could care and speak up in the name of humanity. Tears.

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Listen to your higher mind.

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@QMS Our Peace vigil was in front of the local courthouse. Our town has a very lively downtown, especially on the weekends when folks come from all around to visit. We had signs and a banner that read "No Blood For Oil." We did not do casualty figures or sing or chant, but instead smiled and greeted those who passed by trying to start a conversation. I found the best approach was to avoid moralizing, at least at first, and used the fiscal costs as a way to start the conversations. Most people have zero idea of how much money is being wasted on war and when they would hear the figures, they were shocked.

In the end, it was just me and Don who was in his late 80's. Our other last stand guy, Bill had to drop out due to very bad health. Don and I tried to go on, but it was not the same for Don without Bill who was a founding member along with Don. Since Don was the last remaining founder, he decided to disband our vigil. It was in June of 2016 and I still miss it.

I tried to recruit people, but it was very difficult to get people to join us because it meant giving up a Saturday. I really looked forward to doing the Peace vigil each week and found it very rewarding.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

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@gulfgal98 I am stymied by the fact that there are no young'uns involved. We are all in the later phases of life, some more later than others, but no-one under 60. What happened to the enthusiasm of youth? It seems this is where us old hippies go, with no magnetism toward idealism for the kids. Sundays works here before the church bells ring, it is like our sunday service. Not in the chapel, but in the company of nature.

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@QMS I think that no young people would get involved. First, of the 100 counties in NC, only two have an average age population older than ours. Second, for some reason the college kids (there is a small college here near the downtown) never stopped to talk to us. We had a number of high school kids stop and wanted to hold signs for one day, but not commit to every week. The high school kids we met were incredibly informed. And third, this area is known for outdoor activities such as fishing, hiking and cycling, so many people use the weekend to engage in those activities.

Here is the essay I wrote about our Peace vigil and the men I knew who participated in it. There is also a picture of the five of us. I still miss it.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

Big Al's picture

@gulfgal98 take the profit motive out of war. That could be a good start. Maybe that's related to the effort to end capitalism as we know it, it all goes hand in hand. Relative to taking down a president for war crimes and the so called deep state, if we ever got as far as putting a president on trial for war crimes it would mean the entire system is coming down. I don't see it happening that way, we're too far down the rabbit hole, from slavery to Native American genocide to 30 million killed since WWII to ever achieve true justice. Maybe the best we can hope for is a reset, we need a reset button.

The Popular Resistance article talks about the Kellogg-Briand Pact in the 1920's, after WWII, which basically outlawed all war. Didn't work the first time, but maybe we need to try it again.

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@Big Al

“Four sorrows are certain to be visited on the United States.

First, there will be a state of perpetual war.

Second is a loss of democracy and Constitutional rights as the presidency eclipses Congress and is itself transformed from a co-equal ‘executive branch’ of government into a military junta.

Third is the replacement of truth by propaganda, disinformation, and the glorification of war, power, and the military legions.

Lastly, there is bankruptcy, as the United States pours its economic resources into ever more grandiose military projects and shortchanges the education, health, and safety of its citizens.”

Chalmers Johnson, The Sorrows of Empire, 2005

https://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

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The US markets will be closed tomorrow in honor of George H. W. Bush.

We should have a memorial day for the truth, which we have allowed to be led down the blind alley of our willful delusions, and strangled.

Lord have mercy on us.

You want to talk about a criminal. Every fiber of Trump's being is criminal and Trump is President not Obama. Not to mention Trump is extremely stupid and short sighted, with no leadership qualities, unlike Obama.

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@Timmethy2.0

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@Eagles92
People are still getting killed because of those arbitrary lines Churchill drew in the Middle East after World War I. He was also a great leader and motivator and orator with a sense of what is right in the end. Bloody tyranny could still be ruling Europe if not for Churchill's leadership and intelligence and foresight. It's easy to look at the big picture and jump to wrong, self serving conclusions.

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@Eagles92

Here we go again.

The passion overtakes me, because I'm freaking upset about all the manipulation and greed and narcissism.

Sorry about that.

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@Timmethy2.0

I'm freaking upset about all the manipulation and greed and narcissism.

The difference, though, is that I'm unwilling to apply the blinders just because a particular candidate sports a (D) next to their name.

I voted for Obama twice. Shame on me.

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@Timmethy2.0 it comes to Trump, the point is that war crimes are war crimes, murder is murder and justice is justice. If we continue to give a pass to our presidents and government representatives for what they're doing in the name of imperialism, like it's all just a natural order of things, then it will likely never stop. Someone like Obama is probably convinced he did what he had to do for this country, that he operated as best he could under the circumstances. Trump no doubt is the same in his own way. That mentality has to change, at least among the people.

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@Big Al
Fucking "lesser-evilism" is a propaganda tool of huge use to the greater evils.

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@Timmethy2.0 Trump isn't even close to Obama yet. Obama went on an 8 year reign of murder while Trump has only been at it for over a year and a half. What you're debating is akin to debating whether Dahmer was lesser evil than Bundy, etc.

My position is that's the way it's got to be if we're ever going to stop them.

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@Timmethy2.0

Hitler was a war criminal
Churchill was a war criminal
Obama is a war criminal
Trump is a war criminal

The difference between Obama and Trump seems to be that people refuse to admit that Obama was because he was 'Mr. Charm' while he was doing it and Trump is seen as a water buffalo and Obama is still seeing awards regardless of that fact.

BTW. People are being sold as slaves in Libya because of Obama's actions. History is always affected by people's actions. Hitler's actions are still affecting people today so I really don't understand your point. Bad is bad and evil is evil. No way to quantify Evil.

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@snoopydawg

and bill clinton was a war criminal, as were harry truman, dubya bush, poppy bush, colin powell, jimmy ('I never dropped a bomb') carter only *aided* war criminals over iran, the list would go on and on to those who aided and abetted the, from samantha power to madelieine albright, to dick cheney's 'secret energy tak force'...well, you get my drift.

and those heroes w/ feet of clay...the list is too long to bring. zionists, the one who escorted war criminal nareda modi on his amerikan charm offensive after the US state dept. had denied him entry for his crimes, those in the O administration who'd done shuttle diplomacy and put their arms around genocidaire paul kagame...condi rice, and on and on.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
You going to choose Trump? It seems like the good ship C99 sometimes sails close to false equivalence land.

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@Timmethy2.0 equivalence right there with the Hitler thing. Really? Is that the best we can do then, let's all get on board with one ugly racist after another when it can talk the good talk and not be Hitler? Using Churchill is rather telling in and of itself, hardly a bastion of progressive or liberal or whatever you want to call it values, and certainly a rabid Imperialist in the finest old British tradition. But hey, whatever works for Trump Derangement Syndrome I guess.

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@lizzyh7  

IM IN MY MORAL HI GROUND

PRESSURING U 2 H8 TRUMP

I’m up here on my moral high ground, chiding you for an insufficiently vehement, out-of-control emotional reaction to Trump.

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@lotlizard

Can't say that of any of the last four Presidents, all of whom always did the wrong thing for the worst reasons (money and power).

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven  
The U.S. making noble-sounding noises and leading war alliances hasn’t worked, has it? It’s only made things worse, with everything bad spreading, and everything the planet needs getting bogged down, while every other real power in the world dodges the hard questions and pursues its own narrow self-interest.

So let the U.S. make selfish, perhaps even stupid-sounding noises and seem too unpredictable to lead for a while. Let’s see if that gets better results.

Maybe all the other powers on earth will now have to pull more of their own weight, learn to co-operate, and actually solve the world’s problems together — with the added emotional kick of thinking that, every time they succeed, they’re spiting the United States?

Imagine North and South Korea saying: “Bolton, Trump — hey, you know what? We’re the Korean people and they’re not. Screw those guys, let’s talk.”

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