End Game For Julian Assange At Hand?
This is dreadful news for Julian whose only "crime" has been telling us what the PTB don't want us to know about.
Ecuador’s president ready to allow Julian Assange to be extradited to US
Ecuador’s President Lenín Moreno yesterday made his most explicit statement yet of his government’s willingness to hand over WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange to the British authorities to be imprisoned and then extradited to the United States.
Moreno’s comments indicate that negotiations with Britain’s Conservative Party government are at an advanced stage, with the intent of forcing Assange to leave Ecuador’s London embassy on the terms being demanded by the British and US administrations.
Ecuador granted Assange political asylum six years ago to protect him from being extradited to the US to potentially face jail for life or the death penalty on trumped-up espionage and conspiracy charges. Like the Obama administration before it, the Trump White House wants Assange silenced for good because WikiLeaks published material exposing the atrocities, mass surveillance, regime-change operations and other anti-democratic machinations of Washington and its allies.
Now, in an attempt to ingratiate themselves with the Trump administration and the imperialist governments in Europe, Moreno’s government and ruling party are in the process of revoking that asylum and throwing Assange into the hands of the same US state apparatus, with its long proven record of detentions without trial, assassinations, torture and “disappearances.”
Moreno says that after Julian walks out of the embassy he will have to serve his sentence for skipping bail even though Sweden dropped the charges against him and "once this would be done, he could right after this enjoy the right to be extradited to a country where he does not run any risk.”
Yeah right. Like he would ever walk freely out of the British prison and then live happily ever after. Moreno also said "“Mr Assange has been in this situation for more than five years and we have to find a way out … that defends his rights, mainly his right to life, and at the same time can give Ecuador the possibility of not having what undoubtedly represents a problem for our country.”
Assange's so called "right to life" will end the minute he's arrested to be extradited to this country on the off chance that he will even be given a trial. But if he's charged under the espionage act his trial would be the farce that the espionage act is set up to be. Then he would be whisked off to some deep, dark hole where he will never see the light of day again
By “right to life,” Moreno evidently means just a US promise not to execute Assange. Seemingly, Moreno has no qualms about Assange being thrown into solitary confinement, possibly for life, which would be an effective political death penalty.
Moreover, any assurance against execution would be worthless given the brutal record of US imperialism. When Mike Pompeo, now the US secretary of state, was CIA director last year, he directly accused WikiLeaks of being a “hostile intelligence service.” Under the US Espionage Act such activity can be subject to the death penalty.
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Moreno also wiped his hands of Assange’s Ecuadorian citizenship, saying it was granted by the country’s previous foreign affairs minister, Maria Fernanda Espinosa. She awarded citizenship to the WikiLeaks founder in January in an attempt to secure his free passage to Ecuador, only to have British Prime Minister Theresa May’s government refuse to recognise that right.
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The immense danger confronting Assange has been intensified by the efforts being made by the FBI and other US “deep state” agencies, backed by the Democratic Party, to charge Assange and WikiLeaks with acting on behalf of Russian intelligence by publishing politically revealing emails from the Democratic Party and its 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.Those emails exposed the party leadership’s deliberate sabotage of Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign and Clinton’s secret pledges to fully protect the interests of her Wall Street backers.
"The empire hates Assange because he punches holes in their ability to control the narrative, and thus control the public, and they have silenced him to deprive him of the ability to control his own narrative about himself."@caitoz on the silencing. https://t.co/byhasqtGsM
— Stephen W. Carson (@RadicalLib) August 1, 2018
What we have learned from Wikileaks
God Speed, Julian. Thank you for exposing the truth to the world!
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Bananas, shrimp, and cut flowers
....particularly roses — those are Ecuador's key exports and the US is their biggest customer. I will never buy those things again without making certain where they come from.
Do you happen to recall the last story Julian had his name and picture on before he was silenced?
@Pluto's Republic I thought it was his
I thought it was his comment about how Spain was recreating its fascist past in relation to Catalonia.
I find it odd that that was the last straw for the PTB.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
yes, that was the second time he was silenced,
oddly, i've forgotten the ostensible reason for first back in...2016?
Red pill or Blue?
The media is pushing the Blue Pill, morning, noon and night.
Red pills create fractures in the Matrix and may be our only hope for meaningful systemic change. Most people don’t even seem to understand that they have a choice: Swallow whole the codswallop being pushed by the powers-that-be or question everything.
It’s so much easier to live in a well supported fantasy world than to abandon that comfort for a dangerous and uncertain future.
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@ovals49 The Resistance seems to
The Resistance seems to have no problem supporting Trump when it comes to expanded surveillance powers, bombing the shit out of Syria, and seizing Julian Assange for no reason.
Oh, yes, I forgot. He's a rapist. Even though those charges not only were never proven, but were, in fact, dropped.
I'm sure the CIA wants to get its hands on him to #ProtectWomen.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The first charge against him was because the woman
that he had sex with wanted to know if he could be compelled to take an AIDS test because the condom broke when they did the deed.
Both women never said that he raped them and the charges against him were dropped. Until for "some reason" they were brought against him again.
I accidentally erased my comment about this last night about the charges against him, but just do a search for the charges and see how many different stories there are about this. I think he could have sued a lot of people for slander and defamation of character. Guess he was too busy trying to not be extradited at the time to worry about that.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
If Assange were to go free
he’d be able to tell the world that he got those DNC leaked documents from Seth Rich and not the Russians. Seth’s murderers are petrified of that.
"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush
That's behind this.
Assange's attorney had arranged one-time immunity for him so that he could come to the US and testify before congress and prove that the emails did not come from Russia. (The evidentiary proof is already in place, actually, in the VIPS forensics.) They were ready to go. Then, Comey, who was not fired yet, and Rosenstein (and Senator Warner) called for an emergency "stand down."
That is the classified part of why Comey was fired.
This is the smoking gun
That there was a deal made for Julian to tell congress who actually got access to the DNC computers, but Comey and some members of congress refused to let him testify. What reason would there be for not allowing it to happen? Why it would have blown a hole into the madness of Russia Gate. Right? Why wouldn't Wikileaks expose that to let people know that they have once again been lied to?
BTW. The NSA would have evidence of the supposed Russian hack. Why hasn't Trump ordered them to release that information? We know why. Another thing that Trump can do is fire everyone in his address that are working against him and saying that he is a Russian puppet and committed treason when he met with Putin. This includes Rosenstein who worked with Comey to get a special counsel appointed after Comey leaked his conversation notes with Trump. This is why I think that Trump is playing along with this farce. He isn't any more in charge than any previous president. They are just puppet figureheads that people think they elected.
I agree that Seth was killed so that he couldn't tell the truth about the DNC information. Poor guy. Him and the others who were just trying to expose the truth about how the primary was rigged.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
The NSA knows the truth. They have always known.
Ed Snowden comes into play, here. Following his footsteps, another contractor with the NSA took an even larger array of NSA's malware and handed it over to Assange. The NSA has since kept its distance from the brainwashing the CIA and FBI are currently performing on the American people, forcing into their minds a frightening vision of Russia as a purported enemy of the United States. Real physical evidence that supports this propaganda has never been shown to the people. All of the physical evidence that exists in public hands points to exactly the opposite. This is the current status of the Russia Hoax.
The American people succumbed to the brainwashing right away, given the lifetime of propaganda they had already experienced. No real evidence was ever necessary; the People did not even ask to see any,
But the NSA has never really added its voice to the Russia Hoax. In the end, they possess all of the evidence that can prove or disprove everything that has happened. But they say nothing either way.
When Assange found out about Comey's emergency stand down on his testimony about Russia and the stolen emails, he knew he was a dead man. Ecuador had just elected a new President, who upon winning immediately flipped his affiliation from populist left to right-wing conservative. His own Party promptly threw him out, but he is still President. The US State Department will be calling the shots in Ecuador from now on.
It's no mystery why we push democracy on the weaker nations of the world. It's so simple to subvert and there are so many places in the process to do so. It's easier than ever before.
Within days of the standdown in spring 2017, Assange began a massive release of Vault 7. The wikipeida entry is a "must read" for anyone trying to understand what this means. This information made it possible for forensics professionals to see evidence of the CIA's attempt to create documents that appeared to be hacked by Russia. Documents such as the few DNC emails that were released as evidence.
The Intercept blew the whistle, themselves, on Reality Winner who tried to do the same thing. She is in jail now. A sacrificial criminal. The last of the dissenters.
given that it's an article of faith for most of us...
that the DNC, podesta emails were insider leaks, not hacks, partially based on download speeds, according to the VIPS, would any of you here be interested in weighing in with analysis if i were to create a diary: 'Duncan Campbell claims he’s convinced Bill Binney and Ray McGovern that the DLC emails were hacked not leaked'?
i've read myself purple over it during the past two days, and mainly with scant comprehension. but i figured if we kinda crowd-sourced it here, folks could see what they see, don't see, conclude, and so forth.
i put some excerpts and links to what i'm on about in a few comments at the top of snoopy's 'open letter to bernie sanders'.
@wendy davis It's not an
It's not an article of faith, unless you mean my faith that Binney wouldn't lie to me about the technical evidence he and McGovern and the Forensicator all agreed on.
I would actually like to hear Binney say that Binney has changed his mind,given that the last time he spoke on this issue, it was in response to the VIPS dissent, and he and his supporters, including Ray McGovern, said this:
For more than a year, we have been pointing out that any data acquired by a hack would have had to come across the Internet. The blanket coverage of the Internet by the NSA, its UK counterpart GCHQ, and others would be able to produce copies of that data and show where the data originated and where it went. But US intelligence has produced no evidence that hacking by Russia led to it acquiring the DNC e-mails and passing them on to WikiLeaks.
The dissent refers to “independent of transfer/copy speeds,” but one cannot simply ignore them, as if they were irrelevant. Also, again, the “Guccifer 2.0” July 4 and 6 posts are being ignored. The dissent’s argument ignores the fact that on July 5, the data was transferred at a speed not obtainable from East Coast ISPs. The transfer rate, however, is entirely consistent with a USB port connected to a portable device such as a thumb drive.
As the author of The Nation article pointed out, our investigations continue. Recent data analysis gives additional support to our key finding—namely, that the speed of the data transfer from the DNC server (22.7 megabytes per second) far exceeded the capability of the Internet in early July 2016. We have now learned that the 22.7-megabytes-per-second speed was merely the average rate for the duration of the data transfer, and that a peak rate of 38 megabytes per second was reached during that transfer. A copy to a thumb drive could handle that peak speed; an Internet hack attempted from abroad could not.
I want to hear Binney say that this has been disproved somehow, or that he interpreted it wrongly, and explain how, and I probably won't be satisfied unless I hear it either from him or Ray McGovern--or Craig Murray, who said this:
An associate of Assange, former UK ambassador Craig Murray, has said the WikiLeaks source was a leak from an insider. “To my certain knowledge,” said Murray, “neither the DNC nor the Podesta leaks involved Russia.” Oddly, Murray has not been questioned by any US official or journalist.
There has been, not proof, but circumstantial evidence that Murray was himself the go-between who picked the data up from the leaker and transported it to England. I would like to hear from Murray and Binney, at the least, if my current belief is to be overturned.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
you might have noted that the 'last you'd heard'
was on the link i'd provided, lol, and iirc, the craig murray quote i'd given also said something close to 'the data would have been with wikiLeaks already', which certainly could have been a misdirection. but no, they'd never subpoenaed him, and reneged on allowing assange's testimony. although contra the 'assange doxed cia agents' crowd, he'd said he'd carefully redacted names and replaced them with numeric codes.
yes, as i've said: i'd want to hear it from binney and mcgovern if duncan campbell's evidence (published on july 31, 2018) had actually changed their minds.
but yee-crikey, it sounds like putting up and open sourcing investigation here...would be too much bother for any gain.
thanks for weighing in.
on later edit: aside from the hilarity of causing my ears to perk up hing like a german shepherd hearing a dog whistle when you'd said: 'last i'd heard' causing me to wonder where, no link, when?.... i'd only later hear this echoing in my mind: "...unless you mean my faith that Binney wouldn't lie to me about the technical evidence he and McGovern and the Forensicator all agreed on."
why in the world would you ever leap to lying? that marcy wheeler brought the duncan campbell piece means it's also highly politicized. but *if* analysis is useful, of course, i shouldn't be political. computer weekly? i have no idea what IT knowledge he or they have at all.
and 'the foresnsicator' seems to be a group founded by Adam Carter (pseud), actually Tim Leonard. but i admit that it's all far too complex for me to want to even write up a shell w/ some of the most key parts from the players.
@wendy davisbut yee-crikey
but yee-crikey, it sounds like putting up and open sourcing investigation here...would be too much bother for any gain.
Quite the opposite; it's just that I, personally, have a particular standard which will guide my reactions to that information.
I wasn't trying to squash you, but to state where my personal bar is.
My personal bar as in standards, not whiskey, sadly.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@wendy davis No, that wasn
No, that wasn't what I meant.
Since you said we take it as an article of faith here that the info was leaked, I examined myself and tried to see where I might be relying on faith.
The only place where I found myself relying on faith was my faith in Binney, McGovern, and Murray not to lie to me.
I was trying to be meticulous in self-analysis; I was not trying to attack you.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@wendy davis Sorry for the
Sorry for the lack of link:
EDIT: I seem to be having trouble embedding this link. I'll try again:
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-leak-or-a-hack-a-forum-on-the-vips-m...
Of course, this is now over a year old. Still, Binney's foundation seems solid, and he seems to have firmly planted his feet on it, which is why I said, basically, that the evidence against would have to be pretty good and come from a source I trust.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Pluto's Republic Seriously? Man.
Seriously? Man.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I never believed Seth Rich's murder
...was an act of revenge by the DNC or the Hillary people. I never found any motive. But now I can see how and why he was killed, and who was behind it.
When CrowdStrike was sent into the DNC by the FBI (the co-founder of CrowdStrike was the former head of cybersecurity for the FBI), they immediately saw in the stored server logs that the emails were bulk downloaded to a thumbdrive. It wouldn't be hard to figure it out from there. After a month or so, they made an announcement on June 21st that the DNC was hacked by Russians.
Was there also a FISA warrant on Seth Rich? Probably not. He would have been tapped without a warrant because it was clear early on that he would not be able to survive the ensuing Russian Hoax — concocted by the FBI with a nod from the general Intelligence community. US Intelligence, Ideologically run by programmed Russia-haters, really think they are protecting and saving America at any cost. Only Seth Rich could block their cover and expose them. He was talking on his phone when he was killed on July 10th.
Julian Assange is the last remaining threat to US Intelligence.
Assange is a dead man walking. We are about to helplessly watch his murder.
@Pluto's Republic Possibly. But until I
Possibly. But until I understand what's been stopping them from killing him or, more likely, kidnapping him and throwing him down a dark hole, all this time--including recently, because obviously they brought Ecuador to heel a while ago--I'm not going to write him off. What is strange is that all these lawless authoritarians are acting, in relation to Assange, like they have to obey the law. Since when do these people have to obey international law? Or any other law, really. Why hasn't the other end of the "special relationship" just seized him and handed him over to a bunch of CIA thugs? Is it the fear of other nations objecting?
They didn't care about that when they brought down the Bolivian president's plane and refused to let it through European airspace, essentially seizing their head of state.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I appreciate the sacrifice
Assange has made on behalf of truth. His fate is what happens when one decides to speak out. I know, all too well, the risks posed when blowing that whistle, yet, IMHO, revealing injustice is too important to just look the other way.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
A Poison Pill may be Assange's only way out
If wikileaks still has dirt on the Bastards, he should threaten to release it all, totally unredacted to the world -- the Poison Pill. Maybe the Bastards will think twice before the arrest him and march him through the their Rigged Courts.
I read somewhere that Equador is trying to get a big loan (from IMF maybe?), and that turning over Assange is being used as a bargaining chip to get the loan. Actually surprised they haven't turned him loose already.
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IIRC
He *has* set up a Dead Man's Switch?
You'd think the fear of that being activated would keep these bastards from proceeding.
@Citizen Of Earth If I were him, I would
If I were him, I would have more than one kind of poison pill at hand, and be ready to use both.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The other kind would be JUST WHAT THEY WANT
Dead men tell no tales, spill no secrets, and can be slandered and libeled with absolute impunity.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
@TheOtherMaven I would never allow
I would never allow myself to be taken alive by the people who want to, well, take him alive.
Julian's position may be different. He has the right to take any decision he wants, of course.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The IMF loan
This article discusses how we've been buying more of Ecuador's oil and the loan.
The former Ukraine president turned down an IMF loan and turned to Russia. Next thing you know we threw him out of office. And then the international corporations flooded into country. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
But I'm betting that Moreno knows the history of happens to countries that don't play nice with the USA.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
do note that whitney webb had only said....
"according to reports". to me, the larger deal is that moreneo had signed a military pact w/ the US, so now the bases that rafael correa had booted out are full of...amerikkkans again.
i hadn't remembered the IMF loans to ukraine as a reason for the overthrow of yanukovitch, but that he'd reused to sign the Very Big Deal EU association memo. later, of course, came that joe biden bragging video that unless poroshenko fired the prosecuting attorney for being not-anti-corruption enough, but...how's that workin' out by now, lol?
anyhoo, here's the petition to the kiwi parliament. what would jacinda ardern do? remember, NZ is one of the NSA five eyes nations, and if the scoop.NZ is right, vault 7 also showed NSA exploits, not just CIA. i was the 1896th person to sign; pretty puny response, but who knew it was around?
on edit: now that colombia is in NATO, both military deals get the empire bases in the south, and in colombia's case, both the atlantic and pacific oceans.
@wendy davis Somehow, Colombia is
Somehow, Colombia is in the North Atlantic.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
thanks for correcting my error;
it must be the equator that divides the north and south atlantics then? still, even with my misnomer, the military's sittin' pretty fat for launching attacks (i mean R2Ps) on Z, who knows where else?
@wendy davis It's not YOUR
It's not YOUR error!
Putting a South American country into NATO is patently ridiculous.
Then again, the existence of NATO at this late date is patently ridiculous--or at least, essentially hypocritical.
Good ol' NATO protecting us from the Nazis:
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Still praying.
It's what I've got, though I agree with Pluto about the shrimp and cut flowers and bananas.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Seems to me the
answer is to rush him out of there, Mission Impossible style, and off to Argentina or some place offering asylum and citizenship. Extradition is a death sentence. Unacceptable.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
"Enjoy the right to be extradited to a country...where he does
not run any risk?"
What remarkable doublespeak, Mr. Moreno.
Extradition is not a "right," because extradition happens to people who don't want to be removed. Otherwise, it wouldn't be extradition, it would be travel.
On the other hand, it would be great if some other country charged Assange with a trumped-up crime and demanded that he be extradited to them rather than to the U.S. That might save his life and even, to some extent, his quality of life. But the state that did it would have to be powerful, and to some extent trustworthy. There are a limited number of state actors who could pull it off. And I'm fairly sure neither Assange nor Wikileaks would be willing to have Assange branded as a criminal for good, nor to have him lose his freedom. Still, I'd prefer it to "my country" getting its hands on him.
"My country," these days, apparently means the CIA and their friends.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You don't suppose Putin would concoct something?
Assange has annoyed him almost as much as he has embarrassed the US of A(ssholes). It might amuse Vlad P. to demand he be extradited to Russia for Pantsing the Powerful (which in fact is Assange's main if not only crime).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
@TheOtherMaven Assange has committed
Assange has committed no crime. They're redefining crime to fit him.
Russia is, pretty much, the only one I can imagine doing it. Don't know if that would be what Assange or Wikileaks wants, though.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Zhong-guo
China, where are you when we need you?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I thought the same thing about that statement
Moreno is acting like Assange just has to serve an unjust sentence and then he'll be free to go on his merry way.
You best keep doing our bidding Moreno or you will find yourself out of office just like everyone else who thought that they were in charge of their country.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
On the other hand, this egregious, cowardly, and self-serving
statement does not actually tell us anything we didn't already know. In other words, Julian's position is no more dangerous this morning than it was last week. It's confirmation, I guess, but it's been obvious for months that the Moreno government was playing pattycake with the people who want to get their hands on Assange.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
End game indeed.
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@The Aspie Corner That was funny. Hahha
That was funny. Hahha
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UK will arrest him
But extradite him to the US?
That's all just speculation for now.
More...
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
speculation?
With Theresa May and her Tory allies at the switch?
I don't think it's speculation at all. Britain will extradite him, set your watch by it.
Addendum: And don't rely on anything EU to save Assange's life, either. Brexit is already well underway and all the UK would need to do is delay the extradition until after it is finalized.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Heh.
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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
@divineorder This exchange almost
This exchange almost tempts me to go back on Twitter. Almost.
"Trial of the century?" Would he even have a trial?
That's the same stupid shit they said about Snowden, back in the day.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It's good to see Australia
is really stepping up to help out one of it's own citizens in a time of need. Oh, wait. Never mind.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Right.
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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
@divineorder Good old Kiwis. If any
Good old Kiwis. If any of you are reading this, you kick ass.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Killing the messenger
only makes the message more potent.
Here are a few of my observations which provide a very small glimmer of hope for me. I am amazed that the beneficiary of many of Wikileaks releases, the President himself, has not said a word about Assange. Q has referenced Julian Assange in his posts many times, none of which were negative. Whatever happened after US. Representative Dana Rohrabacher met with Assange? To me, it is very puzzling. Assange has broken no US law. And if the US contends that he has, then so have several MSM outlets and the reporters that work for them.
It does not look good for Assange, but I am holding out hope that somehow a deal has been made to allow him safe passage to whatever country can provide it for him.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
What's the difference? The cappie pigs want him dead.
So as far as Dipshit and his cabal are concerned, he's outlived his usefulness.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Well
it appears, based upon what you are saying, that regardless of who is in charge, Assange is guaranteed to be a dead man. We all know that Hillary Clinton wanted to drone him while she was Secretary of State.
I have yet to see Trump himself comment on Assange. So I need to see some hope for Assange's safe passage. Negativity does not offer me any hope. I try very hard to look for something positive in life regardless of how dark it may be. If I am wrong, I am wrong.
And yes, I am very aware of how dire Julian's situation is. Regardless of what you may think, I am not a fool. And I already know where you stand so I already know that your mileage may vary from mine.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
If Assange really had the guts...
...He'd release any and all dirt he has on the pigs, including current lead pig Dipshit Trump. He's milked this for all it's worth as far as I'm concerned. Either way, the pigs still win and we have no way of fighting back.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I disagree that he has 'milked this'
He's milked this for all it's worth as far as I'm concerned.
Assange hasn't been extradited yet. Why would Wikileaks blow their load before he was? Maybe just knowing that he might have something so damning that they don't want exposed might make them think twice about extraditing him. This game hasn't been called yet.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
The game will never be called if the pigs can help it.
After all, it's easier for the different factions of the capitalist class to keep up the kabuki theater for as long as possible. Even if they do manage to get rid of their pawn (In this case, Julian Assange), another will take his place and release just enough information to whet the plebs' appetite.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
@The Aspie Corner Because it's a
Because it's a great idea to fire off all the shots you have while you're still cornered.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
What I expect the US to attempt
to get Julian to apologize for EVERYTHING he said, and confess to his nefarious deeds. Never mind the bruises.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Oops. Wrong tweet for Mama Assange
Is letting an anti-Assange BBC news reporter host the special on a Assange a way to pre-empt any massive protests if people learn that he has been booted from the embassy?
BBC accused of ‘breaching code’ by putting Assange critic in charge of special on WikiLeaks founder
Nope. This BBC reporter has no bias against Assange.
Mama Assange is not happy about this.
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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
One politician speaks up for Assange
He is not only a Virginia state senator, he is also an ex military officer. Too bad that more people like him aren't showing their support for Julian because he exposed the truth that the PTB wanted to keep hidden from us.
Hasn't Assange told us that he is just one of the many people who make up Wikileaks? If he is removed there will still be others who will carry on their mission to expose the corruption of our country and our allies' countries?
Are there others out there who will speak up and condemn this country for trying to silence him? I'm hoping that there are.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
@snoopydawg Link?
Link?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Link
Virginia State Senator in Rare Support by Politician for Assange
No doubt that the PTB would love to just do away with him and move on. But Assange is just the most recognized member of Wikileaks IIRC and doing away with him will not stop them from leaking information that was never supposed to see the light of day.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Blind squirrel finds acorn
State Senator Dick Black (R-Wingnuttia) has been on the wrong side of many, many other issues, so it's quite a surprise to find him on the right side this one time.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
@snoopydawg Thanks, snoop.
Thanks, snoop.
What weird times we live in. Me and a Virginia wingnut on the same side, on anything.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver