Well Well Well What A Shocker, More War. Rant. Updated

More war in Afghanistan, sure to be a winner this time eh Sherlock?
Steve Bannon leaving explained, looks like mayhem over there at America Frist[sic]
Did the Russians!! Give Trump Hillary's Plan?
Surely the Democrat and Moderate Republican bases will get behind the President now?
9-11!!!!
I think I'm going to puke.
Afghanistan currently at war since 1978 The US "officially" joined in the fun in 2001, sssh no black ops ever, right? No dealings with Al Qaeda? No dealing with the Taliban, ever? No playing with the Northern Alliance when the Taliban proved difficult?

Democrats and Republican voted overwhelmingly in 2001 to invade the country on a mission purely driven by vengeance. I was called Un-American and a Traitor for daring to speak out. Recently I have been called a Russian stooge for speaking out against Warmongers.

If the Democrats speak out against the Presidents latest bloody plan then they are fucking hypocrites.

Do magic fucking wands grow on trees? Do sodding unicorns roam the land?

Since doing the same thing that has failed every time over and over and over again suddenly become a bloody winner.

The logic of America firsters, fuck that, just stop doing what doesn't work.

  • Invading a sovereign country was fine when we did it.
  • Extraordinary rendition was fine when we did it.
  • The suspension of human rights [notably habeas corpus] was fine when we did it.
  • Torture was fine when we did it.
  • Bombing hospitals was fine when we did it.
  • Summary injustice with no trials by targetted murder is fine when we do it [drones]
  • Nation building, how is that coming along?

Trump says the mission is not going to be "Nation Building" so one can safely assume it will be fuck the local population, your country is just a shithole USA USA USA?

Democrats getting on their high horses about this should be rightfully mocked, they should be right behind the Idiot in Chief.

The Plan is the bloody same, no objective, no time line, just more fucking war.

The neo-cons still control both bloody parties.

Saying Hillary would have dealt with this differently would be absolute bullshit.

Remember if you don't follow this logic 9-11 9-11 9-11 already pulled out of his neo-con ass-hole by that War Cheerleader Lindsey 'never seen a war I don't like' Graham.

This time it'll work, Bigly!

They always say that Sparky, it never does.

I wonder how many more war crimes and crimes against humanity will be committed in our name this time.

Update:

Even the Washington "Russia!!" Post knows it.

“To be honest, it’s probably pretty close to what a Hillary Clinton would do,” said Derek Chollet, an assistant secretary of defense in the Obama administration who now serves as a defense analyst at the German Marshall Fund.

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Arrow's picture

I must be a Russian stooge too. Gjohn is a stooge as well. That makes three.
Ok...in that case I'll be Shemp. We're all stooges anyway.

Yes, all of this sucks bigtime.

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I want a Pony!

Socialprogressive's picture

@Arrow

If you're a c99er you're a Russian stooge.

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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.

@Socialprogressive translation: Yes comrade

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not to comment on DKos about the rampant cynical hypocrisy of Dems writing about Trump's war plans after 8 years of total escalation under Obama on the heels of his campaign promises to get us out of Afghanistan. He not only entrenched us more, but he raised defense spending obscenely and then sent drones out that caused unbelievable damage to civilians.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

@Fishtroller 02 here today.

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@Fishtroller 02 First point. Trump is solely responsible for the mess in Afghanistan.

The second one follows the gop response to Obama and war:

GOP response: We support any and all wars. However, Obama is an incompetent CIC.

DEM/TOP response. We support any and all wars. However, Trump is an incompetent CIC.

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@MrWebster the wars.

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@MrWebster this is the military's plan the same one Hillary would have signed off to.

Who is CIC is irrelevant

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that supposedly the reason we were really in Afghanistan was that some oil company wanted to build a pipeline?

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On to Biden since 1973

@doh1304 http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/rare-earth-afghanistan-sits-...

PS not forgetting the opium/opiates/heroin of course.

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and maybe now they're against it again. The opinions are evolving and aren't Democrats supposed to believe in that evolution stuff?

If the Democrats speak out against the Presidents latest bloody plan then they are fucking hypocrites.

Their guy's war = Bad!
Our guy's war surge = Good!

Ugh. Makes my head hurt.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

@Dr. John Carpenter a through and through Warmonger who never saw a military action she didn't like.

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blue checks on Twitter mocking Trump supporters because Trump broke his campaign promise to end the war in Afghanistan and instead stayed on the course Obama set.

?!

"Neener neener! Your guy promised to end the war but he kept it going just like our guy lol."

And they wonder why they keep losing.

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@Dopeman

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@LaFeminista become the idiot

from the comment section at NC

"P.G. Wokehouse @lbourgie
Libs, 2008: lmao this dipshit thinks she can see Russia from her house!
Libs, 2017: I see Russia every time I close my eyes.
10:54 PM - Aug 15, 2017
10 10 Replies 539 539 Retweets 2,614 2,614 likes"

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh

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@LaFeminista

I think that's partly due to the lead in the bullets they keep shooting themselves with, in their feet.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

coloradoblue's picture

a million reasons to never vote for Dems again. For me this is #1, with a bullet.

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Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.

@coloradoblue

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ggersh's picture

the original 3 of clinton the pos to dubya
the junior, to O the zero, and now newly grown
trump the orange.

this shit almost makes one yearn for the days
of yesteryear when we claimed we were a nation
builders rather than today's nation of killers

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh

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My first thought was that now the top three in Trump's admin are all military officers.

Bannon is not anyone I like, but he at least has acknowledged the existence of the deep state. Now I see him as the (former) last bastion against war escalation.

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@gustogirl Something a few of us saw in 2001.

One of the main reasons I joined D-Kos in 2007 was the anti-war stance, how disappointed I became in 2009. A purely political stance, nothing more.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

It's gonna be Terrific. President Dimwit knows what he is doing. He's a Big Swingin Dick. He knows how to win. Another couple decades and I predict Mission Accomplished.

The Worlds Biggest Debtor Nation by far decides it has plenty of cash to piss down this shit hole war. Is it $20 Trillion now? They never report the number so who knows maybe it's $50T.

Every tax payer owes about $200,000 to pay down this debt. Will that be cash or charge? Pay up you dead beats.

Notice I did not mention more deaths. Because hell, humans are cheap. Who cares how many get killed on either side? Certainly not the sociopaths running the US into the ground.

Am I going to Hell for what I just said? It appears I am already there.

And I never thought I would say that I miss that asshole Bannon. He was apparently the only sane person in washington.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

@Citizen Of Earth

I think it only appeared that Bannon was 'sane' with respect to Afghanistan. Valid reporting is that he wanted to privatize the war and hand it over to Eric Prince.

As for the effect on Trump - The media, GOP establishment and Democrats are falling over themselves talking about how to preserve an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, and by extension - his 'address' was 'presidential' now that he is deferring civilian leadership to 'his generals'. In other words, as we approach a fascist military dictatorship - according to those in power - things are looking GREAT. For the rest of us - we are truly fucked.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

@Kenny_Buchholz @Kenny_Buchholz
when Trump was busy loading up the white house staff with generals. They are all either Fools or they are Sociopaths willing to cause mass genocide to enrich the MIC -- and how is that any different from Hitler's Germany. But they are not Fools so...

And if the bombs stopped dropping, the US economy would implode. I really believe that.

PS. Screw Bannon. I'll gladly dance on his grave, the white supremacist ahole.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Pluto's Republic's picture

@Citizen Of Earth

Business has been surprisingly good.

Earnings are up. Hell offers easy financing, which has piqued early interest. Folks are signing up for a number of products and services ahead of when they will need them.

Satan has been pre-marketing Hell and many of its features for decades, and that strategy has worked. In some location, like the United States, market penetration has been phenomenal. The Hell experience is increasingly regarded as a human right. It won't be long now before Hell evolves — in key markets — to a single payer system.

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@Pluto's Republic

Kinda jaw dropping to see it all on one page.
It misses the contract killers (Mercenaries) -- probably because the gubmint hides that number from us. I thought I read somewhere that Obama started replacing troops with Mercenaries to the point that for total troop count you just multiply reported troop numbers by 5 or 10.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

“My original instinct was to pull out, and historically I like following my instincts, but all of my life I heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the Oval Office,” the president said.

"The neocons grabbed me by the pussy."

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Citizen Of Earth's picture

@Not Henry Kissinger
when I heard Pres Numb Nuts say that on the teevee. Like he's telling us he's matured now and 'I'm now Presidential'. Oh Geeze. Gimme a break. Biggrin

I'm sure the Swastikas will be out in force at his rally today. And he'll be back to his old Flaming Asshole Self.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

@Not Henry Kissinger
"The neocons grabbed me by the pussy."

combined with a decal of the president, would look great on a T shirt.

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@FuturePassed

Can you fit Bill The Cat in there somewhere, like, maybe in the Trump suit? They're both orange, aren't they? Or am I thinking of the Great Pumpkin?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@Ellen North
Bill's orange. Maybe we could have Bill upchucking a Trump hairball. But I'm worried that it might only fit on a size X large or larger. Maybe a poster?

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SnappleBC's picture

As per this quote:

“To be honest, it’s probably pretty close to what a Hillary Clinton would do,” said Derek Chollet, an assistant secretary of defense in the Obama administration who now serves as a defense analyst at the German Marshall Fund.

Then doesn't that make Hillary a Putin stooge? As we all know, everything Trump does is at Putin's behest. If Hillary would've done the same thing then she was either wittingly or unwittingly playing right into Putin's hands.

FREAKIN PUTIN!

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