A Russian folk tale
In order to understand Vladimir Putin it is necessary to understand Russia. Russia is a unique culture, history and state of the mind. Vladimir Putin is Russia, in heart, soul and mind. Western strategy is to punish him and Russia and send a message that an ascendant, independent Russia is unacceptable to the West, and that he personally will be punished with Western propaganda, until he gives in. The Western narrative is purposeful and fraudulent. Perhaps some in the media believe it, but those who know understand exactly what it is. "We have the marketing means to punish you if you continue opposing us."
I recently came across this Russian folk tale that is a parable of Russian philosophy, and I think shows some insight into President Putin's thinking.
Старик и Волк -- The Old Man and the Wolf
The old man and his wife lived on a farm by the forest. They had a son, a daughter, a rooster, a hen, a sheep, and a horse. One day a large wolf came out of the forest and walked up to the old man. The wolf was hungry and demanded that the old man give him his rooster and hen or "I'll eat your wife!". The old man agreed reluctantly and gave the wolf the rooster and the hen.
The next day the wolf appeared again, and again hungry. "Give me your sheep or I will eat your wife!", he demanded. The old man agreed reluctantly and gave the wolf the sheep.
The following day the hungry wolf appeared once more. This time the wolf exclaimed "Give me your horse or I will eat your wife!" The old man once again gave into the wolf's demands.
Not surprisingly the wolf appeared again out of the forest on the next day. Now he demanded "give my your son and your daughter or I'll eat your wife!".
The old man had reached his limit. He picked up a stick and beat the wolf severely. He whacked him in the belly multiple times. The wolf's belly split open and out came the rooster, the hen, the sheep and the horse.
End of story.
Just how far will the US get to push Russia in Syria? The fact that Putin has responded moderately to aggressive, illegal provocations does not mean that he will always respond as such. Understand Russia and you will understand that US provocations are very dangerous and that Putin's moderate, rational responses have a limit.
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Russia has said clearly that the next war
will not be fought on its territory. Europe has invaded them about every fifty years, and they've had it. Our oceans won't protect us any more, if NATO (a US creature) keeps pushing them. Gotta have Full System Dominance, though.
But hey, most of us are expendable, anyway, right? So what if most of the country becomes a radioactive ruin? The PTB have well stocked bunkers and lots of weapons/surveillance for us surviving deplorable masses. (Unlike in Russia, there are no shelters or nuclear drills for us here.). They don't think even destroying the environment will touch them.
The US thought Russia could never rise from the ashes
of the 90's. They miscalculated. Russia has again become a major military power capable of defending itself. Russia's defense budget may be only 1/10th of the US's but it gets 20 times the bang. It doesn't have the waste nor does it need to maintain a thousand military bases, big and small, overt and covert, located in every corner of the world.
Putin tells it like it is - again
The US seems to think it can tell everyone what to do.
The sooner everyone on the globe takes away US power, the safer everyone will be.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
@dkmich
But now that the actions of the US have, for so long, created so much global instability and chaos amid a military mind-set, the odds are higher of something similar moving into the vacuum unless steps are taken to prevent this.
Once a society has been polluted with such as fascism or religious fundamentalism, the taint is difficult to remove, even if the overall reaction is something other than fascism/fundamentalism - unless it's a move toward something like social democracy.
Callousness itself, even with active cruelty absent, can become 'normalized' to the point where it's regarded as still necessary (as it may, to some extent, have been, for survival among a victimized public unable to help each other) or even laudable, and it's vastly destructive both as regards civilization and species survival prospects.
How are those whose economies/ecologies/countries/societies/families/lives have been subjected to various corporate/military-imposed horrors to avoid these experiences adversely affecting their perceptions, their rebuilding, governance/policy and expectations when even a relatively high level of damage and suffering which could be alleviated may have come to be seen as no longer major in comparison to what has been previously inflicted and therefore not society's concern? Not to mention propagandized attitudes and a tendency to view outsiders as potential enemies, following learnt mental associations or, as in the case of America, intensive and perpetual propaganda campaigns...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
We tell ourselves this. We live inside our projections.
But I don't believe this is true:
Most ongoing civil wars I can think of has been fomented by deliberate US policies. There are border skirmishes here and there. Wars break out over shortages and scarcity. All of them can be mitigated through negotiation, and we have modern tools that we've never had before to make this possible. I don't think murder and mayhem is a default or a vacuum waiting to be filled.
The rest of the world is very different than the US. They do not have the same motives and aspirations for themselves. We project our own worst motives upon the world, and then we panic and arm ourselves for war. I think the physical isolation of the US causes this. We live in a strange mutated construct born out of complete genocide that is recent and fresh. It has made us paranoid and insecure.
But there is no other nation that is roaming the world destroying countries, seizing their assets, and murdering their populations. That way of being is the product of a Radical Capitalist Caliphate, and this propensity has been discussed for centuries. I see no other nation that aspires to carry that flag. Certainly no nation seems willing to make the damaging financial and social sacrifices that are required to leave their homelands and embark on chaos and death for its own sake, or for the sake of a twisted ambition. I see just the opposite in the 21st century world, which offers so much more to both the individual and to society.
Americans never gave peace a chance. Not once.
If you look at the world, and look at the hotspots — from North Korea to Venezuela — wherever there is strife, most of it is simply a reaction to our constant threats, our covert sabotage, or our odious presence where we are not wanted. Nations should not be forced to become democracies, with armed guards to enforce it. They don't need to privatize and capitalize their natural resources and human services to live well and be happy. They need the opportunity to evolve toward their greatest expression of who they want to become. People want self determination and they want enlightened leaders. Sometimes people get into trouble with a rogue government that they cannot control, much like what the American people face today.
The world has a way to work together to help such people if they request it. It can be done without Neoliberal intervention and globalist greed, without dropping white phosphorus on people or reducing their cities to rubble. That is what an uncompromised UN is designed to do, and what it will do once it moves its headquarters outside the US. It is this type of organized and coordinated plan that the American people need to rid themselves of the epidemic corruption in their government so they can built a better future.
The US is not part of the solution, and Americans need to get that straight in their minds. The US is not indispensable and the world will do just fine without its weapons and military. The nations of the world will find a way to solve their problems and provide security — without any intervention by the US. It's not 1940, the world can guard their own shipping lanes, they don't need to embargo Cuba or Iran or North Korea to open productive discussions and find peace and security. They world is pretty well organized, now, and they've got this.
Evolution has its own rules and a separate intelligence, and we would be much better off if we trusted that. For example, each generation is an anti-entropic placeholder for progress and refinement, Each new generation must be better than the last, with greater advantages and knowledge in a supportive environment where there is enough of everything, Otherwise the species will decline and disappear. That's where the US should put its energy and resources. That is where it will find the peace of mind it is looking for.
The USA is indispensable
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
This is your finest
work, as far as I have read, Pluto's Republic. This is a truly valuable piece of writing. The expression,
is brilliant. I hope you will use it far and wide so that it becomes the term we all use. Many thanks.
You heard it here, first.
It's a working title on a different project. Thanks for the kind words.
Russians are an interesting people.
Their refusal to completely abandon their own traditions and culture in favour of the corporate flavour of the month is a major problem for our "elected" representatives.
Iirc one of the major ways we were going to destroy Russia in the 80s was through our inevitable corporate product superiority. (Or so we claimed )
Unlike us however, they stuck with what worked and threw away the crap. They used the good ideas and learned from the bad. Also they learned that the truth works better than propaganda.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Excellent report about Russia on the Unz Review
very interesting analysis
It also seems to confirm the extreme hubris of TPTB in the US that has been on such obvious display of late.
Indonesia is Sunni (comment edited)
And Chechnya (the Indiana of Russia), doesn't seem so safe to gay folk, who have a tendency find themselves arrested or slaughtered.
Russia has performed better in Syria than the US, though no one comes out the winner in that proxy war that makes the Mexican Revolution look sane. Whom to support? Saudi head-choppers or ISIL head-choppers? The Turkey who bombs ISIL or the Turkey who bombs the Kurds? Russia who supports Assad or D'ump who fires 59 missiles at a stationary target and misses?
I don't think the US has had any actual defeats--just the inability to declare victory and go home, because nowhere in the Middle East do we have an inkling of what it would take to achieve victory. Unless we count bombing hospitals or weddings. We have an amazing track record of blowing those into a red mist. The US did score a victory over Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army early on, but instead of instituting a Marshall plan setup like we did in post-WW2 Europe, we set up a neoliberal and downright feudal Hunger Games world--including disbanding the Iraqi army but letting them keep their weapons (because we simply couldn't deny them of their 2nd amendment remedies), and hence we now have ISIL.
Ain't America great? More like the last gasp of a dying nation. Only instead of Caligula (or Mad Lord Snapcase), we have D'ump.
Are you intimating that the LGBT problems in Chechnya
are Putin's fault? The Chechens fought for decades to gain autonomy. Now they have it. The local government is run by ultraconservative Muslims having very conservative social standards of which the majority support.
If you read your own link, much of the anti-gay sentiment and violence is family oriented - honor killings and the like.
The US and Europe are not helping these people.
BTW, Russia is not alone in having to deal with these problems. It has been reported that 23-27 people have been slaughtered in the US from religious based honor killings last year. It is believed that this problem is under reported. (See what I did there?)
@CB All very good except I
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Neither does Putin
But, you have to work with what you have.
@CB Erdogan is a snake,
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Brilliant article.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Interestingly enough
Some of the most famous American military legends are its defeats: The Alamo, Custer's Last Stand, Pearl Harbor. In the aftermath of each, America's military went on to win their wars and gain further dominence, first over the continent and then the planet. I believe this has given us a mythos about war that is very misleading at the present time.
9/11 is viewed through a military lens and thus we have The War on Terror, whereby we terrorize the people's of the Middle East in an endless search for ultimate victory. But, as we should have learned from Vietnam, once you become an Empire, there is no place to go but down.
America is a young nation. Our own legends and myths ("American Dream" Rugged Individualism" etc.) are literally killing many of us now and will undoubtedly lead to a mistake by TPTB that will risk a nuclear confrontation that would devastate the earth and our species.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
There seems to be a real talent deficit
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Agree with the gist, but let's not forget Putin is a thug.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Putin's Russia = Rule by Mafia
Alexei Navalny will become a worldwide hero if he can knock Putin off his horse.
It is obvious you have no idea who Nalvany is
Here's his poll ratings. He went from 5% in 2011 to 1% this year.
BTW, what fucking horse are you talking about? In case you are interested in the truth, Putin got rid of the "Russian mafia" that the US installed in the country during the 90's when the American puppet, Yeltsin, was made president. These "mafia" now reside in London and New York with their stolen millions. If they returned, Putin would jail the fuckers unless they paid their back taxes.
Putin is a thug? Do you even know who Nalvany is?
The US has the same laws that require protesters to get permission for their marches. If Nalvany's protest was held in the US, they would have been pepper sprayed in the face, given a wood shampoo and warehoused in the pokey - a la Occupy Wall Street. Did you call Obama a thug for doing that?
The violence against Occupy Wall Street by the miltary geared police was fucking far from any done in Russia. The Russian cops are not even armed.
Before you pass on the propaganda please check the facts.
You might want to do some research on Nalvany's background. The asshole would be spurned by both the Repubs and the Dems.
I have to say, I just loved it when Putin
When I had to travel for work a few years ago, we used a car service owned by a Russian guy from Moscow. Very much a capitalist, still owned property in Moscow, very educated, economics I believe. Nice guy, a Republican, cant have everything. His friend had to drive me one time in the snow, he too was Russian but more middle class I guess. Fun guy, and he did miss the Soviet Union. The capitalist, not so much. The Russians are no more monolithic than Americans are, and they're not all stupid brutes either.
If they like Putin and his style of government by a majority, who in hell are we to condemn them for it? Like this country is a shining beacon of freedom? As far as protests and such, so what? That makes them different from the US? We don't have factions that protest Trump as a dictator? We don't have people here who think the ONLY answer is to get rid of Trump, no matter the facts? Please.
Thanks much for you info, I really enjoy it.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
People in the US are also used to autocratic control
They've had it for decades. They just don't know it.
At least in Russia you can directly vote for who you want as president instead of having some people you have absolutely no control over making that decision for you.
Sure, but he's their thug
Live and let live.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Putin's got a pretty good popularity rating in Russia
for being such a "thug". Since his election in 2000 he has never polled less than 60%. It's been mostly in the 70's to 80's. For the 18 to 24 age bracket it is 88%. The majority feel Russia is on the right track.
I have to agree with you. We need to live and let live. But in foreign policy I think Putin is the most reasonable and intelligent leader.
Look at this:
Russian Su-27 warns off NATO F-16 trying to approach defense minister’s plane over Baltic
[video:https://youtu.be/MCROh09OPzY]
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Russians are a great people with a great cultural history
Americans too are a great people with a great cultural history. That has absolutely nothing to do with the oligarchical and governmental leaders in either country. I have a feeling that the wolf in that folk story originally represented one of the more dastardly Tsars.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Timmethy2.0,
Thank you for saying this.
Americans absolutely, categorically, and adamantly refuse
to see the global situation from the Russians' point of view. It's not as if Americans would be obligated to agree with a Russian point of view, but could they not at least recognize that such a point of view does in fact exist?... and then perhaps make some small attempt to understand it?
But no, apparently that is too much to expect from our countrymen. They are convinced, beyond any doubt, that Russia cannot possibly have a valid point of view... and so there's no point in trying to find out what it might be. Russia is America's enemy, and that is that. It doesn't matter what the Russians have to say about it, so don't bother listening to them. Case closed. Grab your gun and load it... they're out to get us! And by all means, keep your fingers stuck firmly in your ears.
Such is the current state of bilateral diplomacy, American style.
native
Excellent comment.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
The Oliver Stone interviews
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."