Open Thread - 05-07-2015

Good Morning, everybody, how did you start your day this morning? I am so tired of talking politics, I don't have anything for you in that regard. So, I just tell you some personal stuff, something of course one shouldn't do. But I have given up on any kind of privacy, so I don't care anymore.

My days go by lately in ways I don't like much. After I retired in June 2014 I made plans to sell my little townhouse and started a huge packing and painting job. I still had the dream to move to paradise and get myself a plan B back-up-fall-back place over in Germany as well. It all could have worked out. I was full of energy. But I am by myself and realized it's getting physically harder for me to start projects like that. The preparations to make my house "presentable" for buyers took much more time as I expected. But eventually it was done somehow after a couple of months.

Then a lot of things happened over at the German side of my remaining miniscule family and the move I anticipated making wasn't going to happen anymore. I had to actually cope with that and didn't do very well with it. Finally I resigned and decided to get all my remaining stuff I still had in Germany on storage over to the US.

When it finally arrived I was involved with another huge project of packing, sorting, storing etc. During that time I carried a lot of heavy book boxes and heavy furniture upstairs and downstairs and into a truck to a garage etc. I must have damaged my back without realizing it. I finished the project pretty much just before my son came back home from his last job contract.

My plan then (to keep me busy) was to start learning to edit videos professionally and to work on a large photo documentary of my family. Then another discouraging thing occurred and I kind of fell in a depressive mode. Often in the morning I just start opening up the laptop and do my first dose of reading. Usually it just gets me more depressed. Sometimes I don't get out of bed before 10:30 am. It never happened to me before. So I self-diagnosed myself as being "in a depressive mode". Really, WTF.

Now the garden demands that I take care of the weeds. Vegetables needed to get planted (I did it! Even brussels sprouts, mustard greens, zucchinis, melons, salad, tomatos, pepper, leak, potatoes and all sorts of herbs.). I am not sure what's wrong, but my back starts hurting all the time after I just work for an hour. So there might be some permanent damage. I have to rest a lot. Of course I got myself into another stupid project.

All my vegetable and flower beds seemed to need some new top soil. So I got myself 3 cubic yards of top soil from the city delivered. They dumped it on my assigned parking space in front of my town home. Ok, I admit I waited for my son to be back to get some help. So, we moved 3 cubic feet of soil and spread it out, one wheel barrel a the time and spreading it by hand. Shit work. My neighbor told me I should be careful. If I continue to work my son like that, he won't come back and take a permanent job in a submarine. (He is working on a cruiseship - it's that kind of slave labor job, but it's a job). At least we had a good laugh at that.

Hmm, so I didn't write a diary for the Open Thread for this morning. There are several subjects I would like to write about, but they are complicated and I have to pull them together from different books. I don't feel like posting them here as long as I haven't done the homework I want to do for them.

You just have to live with "the dog (I dont' have anymore and feel very shitty about that too) ate my diary" kind of excuse. That's just my stupid Open Thread for today.

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Oh yeah, and I want to write a fiery diary and post it on dailykos, an open letter to Bernie Sanders to ask him to make the rich panick, Chris Hedges style. Gosh, this place (gos) is going on my nerves lately. I log on to dailykos and the first thing they throw into your face is some petition to support Hillary. Election campaigns are the last thing I want to think about right now. Gimme a movement ... and I am all ears.

Have a good day, all.

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I think your situation is a situation many of us find ourselves in. I also know what you mean about giving up on privacy. Belonging to only one blog, dailykos, it was easy to maintain anonymity. Multiple blogs and facebook, and I too have given up thinking I can remain anonymous. If somebody cares enough to look, I'm sure I'm an open billboard. I like FB because it aggregates so many different things, but I hate FB because there is zero privacy unless you talk to no one, post nothing, and like nothing.

My husband and I own two homes. One in suburban Metro Detroit and one in northern Michigan on Lake Huron. If I could show you the Michigan mitten (my hand), I would point to its geographic location on the lake. I am still working but only part-time - yeah. I should have retired five years ago, and I still want to give it all up. I want to sell both homes, put all the cash in a pillow case and be free. Free from weeds, lawns, housekeeping, cooking, eating, cold weather, hot weather, work, politics, and anything I can't carry. The problem is I can't figure out free to do or be what. Once the visualization gets to the point where I'm standing outside with a sack of money and a suitcase, it's done. So I do nothing and continue the day to day routine. One thing I am grateful for is that we can afford to hire the help we need to maintain our properties. If we truly had to do it all like you are doing, there is no way - too, too old.

In any event, do be careful. The exercise from your physical labor is great, as long as you don't destroy your back. Your down in the dumps attitude is likely to fade with the warm weather and sunshine.

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my son would say to your sentence put all the cash in a pillow case and be free, that it's not the money that makes you free. Ha. What a smarty a** he is. I guess life has still teach him a couple of lessons. If I were free and had the courage to not listen to my nagging "responsibility" reminders from the little man in my ear, I just went to the Alps in a little hut with all my books and read and nap whenever I like. Smile

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I think the key to contentment is setting realistic goals, giving ourselves credit for accomplishments and realigning expectations to the prevailing situation.

Today, so far, I helped my Sweetie get out of bed, use the toilet and get dressed. I made coffee, heated up quiche, poured juice, dispensed medications, fetched the morning paper, cleared the table, started the dishwasher, put in a load of laundry and swept the kitchen floor.

Painters showed up ~8:30 and the hive is buzzing. Shortly, I will take Sweetie, to the YMCA, to shower. Then another meal and round of medications.

I am looking forward to this evening. Thing2 and her young man friend are supposed to stop for dinner. She graduates, from NC State, tomorrow.

I signed on to prepare something for tomorrow AM and read the EBs, if I get a chance. The days seem to be completely full. I hardly get to play guitar or visit my cyber pals.

Oh yeah, I need to do something about the ants.

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and what you are doing. You have a lot of wonderful and tough things to do, you have your Sweety, you still love so much, your thing1 and thing2 are on the go to great life adventures and you have a great big heart and a love for music. I would hug all of it wholeheartedly. It's not that I don't think about "doing" things and having plans ... it will come. I just need a little bit of courage. And not look back too often. Last weeks were tough. And they shall pass too.

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I always end up buying some books (used) ... there is so much to learn from the books of Amy's guests. Today it was "Robert Jay Lifton", which was introduced on her website like this:

Robert Jay Lifton, leading American psychiatrist and author of several books. He is distinguished professor emeritus of psychiatry and psychology at The City University of New York. He is the recipient of numerous national and international awards and honorary degrees. His books include "Death in Life: Survivors of Hiroshima", for which he received the National Book Award; "The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide" and most recently, "Witness to an Extreme Century: A Memoir." He is currently working on a book comparing the nuclear threat to the threat posed by climate change.

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I found him very worthwhile listening to:
Here the first segment from today:\Robert Jay Lifton on How Climate Change Joins Nuclear War in Threatening Human Survival

Robert Jay Lifton, Author of "The Nazi Doctors": Psychologists Who Aided Torture Should Be Charged

The Socialization of Evil: Robert Jay Lifton on the Death Penalty, the Holocaust & Armenian Genocide

I must say that his comments made me rethink my attitude to not comment on I/P issues, re-evaluating my "Good Germaness" proneness. It's all so painful.

Today's show also made me search Der Spiegel for Nazi crimes and I wanted to mention two section in the German language part of "Der Spiegel" which contains old documents or photos that I think one should not forget. One is called: "Eines Tages" and are short pieces by German citizens of what they observed or lived through in the Third Reich and more. The other is the huge documentary accumulation from the Third Reich in photos and articles.

I am not sure, I always regret that those are not available in English for the average American reader. I understand that many Americans, mainly Jewish Americans, know exactly about that part of German history, but not the general population. I myself have not revisited the issues since my younger years. It's about time to do so and put them in context with what is happening world wide.

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I embedded the two videos for you and changed the text to how I thought you would want it, if you aren't happy with the results you can edit to your preference. To embed those videos you have to click the share button (in the upper left hand corner) and then select "copy" next to the "embed code" link. Then paste the embed code into the comment or essay body.

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with regards to embedding the code, but it didn't show up. May be I should have waited a bit longer so that it could load. I thought may be you don't allow embedding directly from Democracy Now. I even think I got a message that it's not allowed to upload from that server. I try again. Let's see if it shows up. If yes, apologies for double posting. Just a test.

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is that possible it?.

Apologies. And thanks again.

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it isn't showing up in preview mode, it does for me, hmmm, let me do some checking around.

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I logged out as the administrator and logged in with a special account that allows me to use the site as a regular user and I tried the code in a comment and it previewed just fine so that leads me to believe that it has something to do with your computer.

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preview no-show and just post it. Thanks. I will try on my other computer too.

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Where the video is supposed to be, I see a line of text saying that "Javascript is required to watch video inline on this page."

I have JavaScript turned off except for sites on a whitelist. The "caucus99percent" domain is on this whitelist, however. I'm not sure whether the domain that serves the video also has to be on the whitelist.

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turn off javascript, with NoScript?

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ago, here some images and stories ...
it's a series of photos and videos worth clicking through from beginning to end. The video clips sometimes load not immediately. Just wait them out.

I think one should not throw around with the word genocide in a lax manner. The holocaust is unique in its evilness and will remain that way for a long time to come. Original voice and images are imo always the best way to keep things in memory and in context.

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/apr/23/british-empire-crim...

Quoting an e-mail that was received by someone who, like me, occasionally attends an English-speaking church in Germany.

Hello [name],

I hesitated about sending you this, but since you reacted positively to the way I spoke from the heart on Tuesday night, I thought this might supply some background.

In this article some shocking things are reported about British treatment of the Kikuyu in Kenya. The article further alleges that this history has been covered up by official denial and systematic destruction of documents.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/apr/23/british-empire-crim...

And this article only concerns one struggle of one obscure people at one particular moment in one small corner of a vast empire.

Should we frown, I wonder, on all my nice fellow English at [the church] who seem ignorant of, or indifferent towards, or in denial regarding such matters?

That's why I am not perturbed by whatever small-scale revisionism [Herr So-and-so] may be practicing as one isolated individual.

Be seeing you Sunday!

Cheers,
[name]

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power on powerless people throughout colonial and probably pre-colonial times everywhere with victims in the millions. This is a subject that can be researched and written about to no end. We can dwell in writers reports' revealing all those atrocities in brutal detail once they all have been done a long time ago, had been obfuscated or hidden and denied. I had some plans to go through some of them and get my mind clear about why all of them happened.

Why one would go into a competition to state what was the biggest and most awful genocide, atrocity etc. is beyond me. The only reason to do so is to avoid comparing apples and oranges and prevent people from using a huge genocide's example like the holocaust and comparing it to their own current time victimization they live through. There is a difference if you kill a couple of thousand people or a couple of millions. There are differences how you murder and what the motivations were. But I really see no sense in comparing them. Each is unique and horrible enough. And of course atrocities are always denied and covered up. And later some proofs are found and it is revealed. Luckily on one side, too late and not helpful anymore other than correct history, on the other side. Would be nice if the research could go into directions of recognizing atrocities enganged in while they are ongoing and find solutions to STOP them. Even writing about it doesn't seem to help much. So, what has to be done then?

What I still believe (and I just need to research this more) is that the motivation for the Holocaust murders were different from many colonial or other genocides. Actually the subject is so painful and I rather right now don't want to go into it. Need to take care of my emotional well being.

I hear you very well. Just saying.

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In other words, post-Holocaust, post Judgment at Nuremberg Britain.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/apr/14/torture-mau-mau-cam...

Author Caroline Elkins, Harvard professor of history & African / African-American studies:

My book was resoundingly criticised at the time of its publication. Historian Andrew Roberts wrote that I had committed "blood libels against Britain". Africans make up stories, one eminent historian publicly told me. Many critics chose to ignore the significant documentary evidence. Instead, they zeroed in on the survivor testimony, and declared it unusable. Defenders of empire – and even those less imperial-minded – declared there was no systematic abuse.

So "Africans make up stories," huh? That "eminent historian" would fit right in with many a city's police force in America. #BlackLivesMatter

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I think one reason stuff from this era gets under my skin is because I was already alive while it was happening.

Already interested and trying to understand, reading everything, even though I was just a kid—the farther away from Hawaii, all the more to be learned from it.

It's like discovering, hey, so newspapers, books, teachers, authorities, they weren't just lying in the abstract—they were lying to me. I trusted them and they lied to me! I take it personally!

Well, people familiar with Asperger's syndrome will probably recognize the pattern.

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I have been to Rwanda 1986 and could not have imagined what happened in 1994. Or that I knew "something" from direct reports of family members of what happened to some Africans in Congo, Cameroon and Guinea Equatorial. I remember that I couldn't understand the Biafra wars, because my life were somewhere else. I didn't "get" the Killing Fields in Cambodia. I never learned the pacific wars of WWII. I didn't understand the conditions in China under Mao. It's these days for the first time that I can focus on reading. And I feel overwhelmed. It's a little too late, may be. Well, people have lied to me, but seldom about politics. I don't think I was "brainwashed" at all. I just couldn't cope with the extent of complexity and evil stuff surrounding me. I like to forget a lot of things and try not to let me get down by immersing in too much demoralizing stuff. Self-defense, I guess. I want to stay happy enough to be a role model for those I love and tend to drown in bitterness themselves. One has to go on you know...

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…as if it were yesterday.

In fact, they are still living in concentration camps.

It was the ultimate genocide and perfectly explains Americans and their passion for guns.

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got myself all the books to read and documentaries to watch. One thing that dailykos was good for to me.

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woman with a lot of spunk. Your attitude, energy and productivity puts me to shame. My yard and veggie garden have not been touched so far this year. I feel overwhelmed physically, emotionally and financially. I love your dairy it's human and real. I keep thinking we should sell our house as property values are sky rocketing here. We have a lot of equity but if we move it would get ate up by the artificial high price of housing in Portland. When I think of the money and physical work involved in getting it in shape, including a new roof, I have second thoughts. We have put a lot of money, creativity and sweat equity into this old house. I love it it and yet I hate it. It's a money pit and will always be. Think I'll hang on to what we have gathered from coincidence but then change is good, no?

Like dkmitch if we do sell it and take the money and run where in the hell would we go? Like her I picture myself with a big pile o'money at my front door and freedom beckoning and then what? I dream about moving to the coast here in Oregon. Housing is not so expensive there since the 2008 crash. All the rich Californians who owned vacation homes sold them and scurried back to CA. My husband however is a city slicker musician type who would wither on the vine in a rural sleepy beach town. Some days I look around at my surroundings and think what a great life I have. Spending so much time on the net and being able to know what is happening in the world can give you a tainted perspective of life. I thank you for the diary and found it life affirming.

Take care of your back. Heavy lifting is something I do even though I know it's asking for trouble. Moving heavy boxes of books around is harder on your back then gardening. As a gardener I get impatient as I'm the gardener in chief and also the unpaid grunt worker. I keep hauling rocks, mulch, compost and dirt around and digging in our heavy Oregon soil. I could ask my husband for some lifting hauling spreading help but often I do not want to stop and wait for him to come out and help. I'm not good at delegating or explaining on a physical level. I micro manage and have no diplomacy and we end up in endless unproductive fights while the weeds grow like weeds do.

I seem unable to get the hang of low maintenance gardening. My Chinese acupuncturist who treats my back and neck when I go berserk in the yard after sitting around all winter said ten years ago 'what's wrong with you ? your no spring chicken'. On the other hand my next door neighbor who passed away at 92 of a heart attack was out gardening until the end. He was in great shape which he attributed to keeping moving and his gardening. He would always say as we both worked our gardens 'No rest for the wicked, we must be really wicked.' Like Sisyphus I just keep rolling or hauling those stones unable to say that's good enough.

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yeah right, short and sweet and to the point. I am not as energetic as you seem to see me. The darn thing is that I think I can live everywhere by now, doesn't matter anymore. It's over with the "dreamer" part of my "pseudo immigrant" status. I am just upset about what life my son has had. Nothing like it I ever expected to happen and never would have wished. I constantly have to fight my own feelings of guilt to not have avoided the events as they happened and my anger over what I couldn't have changed no matter what isn't calming down for good. So, I have to work on "anger management" as smart Americans call that. Heh, I am angry, what's wrong with that?

I need a new plan. Smile

I tell you tesla batteries will be a part of it, no matter what. My fucking electricity bills kill me. Ok, I start dreaming again. Such a waste of time....

Thanks for your kind words. I bet you work much harder in the garden than I ever did. I admit mostly I hate garden work, especially in our MD hot and humid heat. And the soil is frigging too, either clay-ish muddy or stone hardened. No, the next garden, if I ever have one again, will be different, a senior living adjusted vertical and container garden. Smile ... and some rabbits in a cage and some chicken in the backyard and a little pond for fishes which I plan to eat (rainbow trout to be specific and carp and there is another fish, tench in English, I have never seen them in the US). I just wonder who will kill the rabbits and chichens for me. I can't imagine I can knock them dead myself. ... Acute

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In 1942, Americans of Japanese ancestry were rounded up and sent to concentration camps in the desert, even though most were American citizens and there was no evidence of any disloyalty on their part whatsoever. It was all just based on their ancestry. The Census Bureau even supplied the government with lists.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt did this by decree in Executive Order 9066. Even though you'd think the measures would be unconstitutional on their face, the government's actions were upheld by the Supreme Court in the case Korematsu v. the United States.

No, the Japanese-Americans weren't killed—they "only" suffered the stigma and psychological trauma, and the huge and irreparable loss of property and irreplaceable personal effects.

Then again, the war wasn't being fought on U.S. territory. At no point was the U.S. in danger of losing. At no point were U.S. cities suffering massive destruction from the air.

I wonder what would have happened to the Japanese-Americans if the U.S. had begun losing the war.

What if infrastructure, food, and medicine were no longer there to sustain the troops and the citizenry outside the camps, let alone the people inside the camps?

What if the anger and prejudice that put the Japanese-Americans into the camps in the first place had been intensified by fear, hardship, and looming defeat by a hated enemy? Would they have been killed or otherwise left to die in the desert?

We're inculcated with this idea that Nazi Germany was uniquely evil in all of history. It's as if there were a Richter scale of evil and repulsiveness, and all other evil in the history of the human race—slavery, conquest, imperialism, genocide against indigenous people on a continental scale—never registered higher than a 9.0. And instead of being satisfied with rating Nazi Germany as also 9.0 or 9.2 or even 9.6, we're supposed to believe it's totally off the scale, like at 17 or something.

I suspect it's all to assure ourselves that we and our allies our morally superior. That falling into such moral complacency, or just becoming so preoccupied with our own survival, that acceptance of the morally unacceptable and the monstrous could never, ever happen to us or anyone allied with us.

How can we be so sure? And who is herding us, conditioning us to think this way, and why?

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regards to the other response I had. Why speculate about it? What if?

All I might add to all the things you said here, which I think are totally correct and worth considering, that the holocaust, once detected by the Allied Forces in its whole extent and horror, made a "normal war" a "good war" and gave the US all the underpinning and justifications to make them believe that they have been the good guys "defending and protecting all those oppressed people everywhere". That rationalization and propaganda went on and grew into something like a "benign monster" to end up in a "real monster" with nothing benign or special moral in it anymore. It's hard for people, who believed in that benevolent or benign dictatorship to accept that it is not benign anymore. It would feel like a betrayal to them. Who likes to have been betrayed? So, you continue to deny the truth.

Who is herding us? Our own fears and guilt, which we can't face, I think.

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...is also a motivation to accept "herding". As long as we can believe in what the "herders" are telling us.

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